PatsFans Yahoo! Fantasy League #2

[pats1]

I set this one up for those (like me) who missed both patsox23's Yahoo league and ironwasp's ESPN league.

League ID: 507913
Password: tb2ww
League URL: http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/f1/507913

The draft will be this Friday, August 24 at 7:45 PM. Sorry - this is one of the last evening timeslots available.

The rules will be the same as the 2006 PatsFans Yahoo! league:

http://archive.fantasysports.yahoo.com/nfl/2006/9108

[drakesta101]

I'm in
10 characs

[MrBigglesWorth]

I'm in, thanks

[fumbrunner]

the hoff is in...

[DaBruinz]

I'm In... Thanks for doing this Pats1 :>

[Seymour93]

The Richard Seymours have just been registered. :cool:

There's a problem however. Next Friday the Pats are playing, at 8:00, and the draft starts at 7:45.

[pats1]

The Richard Seymours have just been registered. :cool:

There's a problem however. Next Friday the Pats are playing, at 8:00, and the draft starts at 7:45.

Yeah, I guess that could be a problem. Stupid me. :D

So when do you guys want it?

[DaBruinz]

Yeah, I guess that could be a problem. Stupid me. :D

So when do you guys want it?

Next Saturday around 11 am ET?

[pats1]

I've set it to 7:45 tomorrow night, just for now. All of the other 7-10 PM timeslots are taken before the season.

[Seymour93]

I've set it to 7:45 tomorrow night, just for now. All of the other 7-10 PM timeslots are taken before the season.

That sounds good to me. Have it ASAP so people don't forget.

[Aldogg]

The Dogg Pound is in looking to take a bite out of some people.

[Seymour93]

Two spots left.

[The 12th Man]

I've set it to 7:45 tomorrow night, just for now. All of the other 7-10 PM timeslots are taken before the season.

Sounds good to me too. Thanks for the invite. I wish this was one with defensive players too though, but I'm not complaining.

[Underoath]

I joined. 10 char.

[gomezcat]

It's good that we have two leagues running, so that everyone has a chance to participate. Just one thing, as I mentioned in a PM to Ironwasp: If you have the league's first pick, DO NOT DRAFT MICHAEL VICK. :eek:

[pats1]

So are you able to change the defensive mode in Yahoo?

And oh, none other than NEM has filled that 10th and final spot - and is matched up against Sey93 in the first game - perfect match! ;)

If anyone really wants to get in, I could always perform a "Remove and Ban..." :cool3:

[PatsFanInVa]

So are you able to change the defensive mode in Yahoo?

And oh, none other than NEM has filled that 10th and final spot - and is matched up against Sey93 in the first game - perfect match! ;)

If anyone really wants to get in, I could always perform a "Remove and Ban..." :cool3:

Hey if you set league size higher I'll join. And I'll even call my team the Virginia Fighting Bulldogs.

PFnV

[World Champs 3X]

Set the leagige bigger or kick nem

[pats1]

I've bumped the max up to 12 (that's as high as I'll go) and banned NEM. So there's 3 teams left.

[drakesta101]

I've bumped the max up to 12 (that's as high as I'll go) and banned NEM. So there's 3 teams left.

Taking some cues from Roger Goodell - well done.

[Seymour93]

And oh, none other than NEM has filled that 10th and final spot - and is matched up against Sey93 in the first game - perfect match! ;)

:p

From past experiences, NEM usually is always in last because he drafts dubiously and then never changes his roster.

[PatsFanInVa]

The Fighting Bulldogs are IN!

[The 12th Man]

So are you able to change the defensive mode in Yahoo?


You should be able to, although I'm not 100% sure. I was never a commish for a Yahoo league, but I played in many leagues that include individual defensive players. It's no big deal if we only have offense, I just like to always include defense too.

[mtbykr]

I'll play, although I am already in the ironwasp league and don't want to take the spot from someone else...let me know.

[MrBigglesWorth]

How do you know it was truly NEM?

Tomorrow night is fine with me.

[DaBruinz]

Personally, NEM is the type of Fantasy GM that ruins leagues because of what others have said. He drafts dubiously and then doesn't do anything about his roster. Personally, I wouldn't mind that team being replaced with someone else. And I can say this because he's done in each of the Patsfans leagues that he's been in over the past 2 years.

[zippo59]

Tried to join but it's full. :cool:

[MrBigglesWorth]

Could people who registered identify their team name with poster name so we know who is who?

[DaBruinz]

I'm the Stallions.

[drakesta101]

Koolaid's Krew.

[Seymour93]

Tried to join but it's full.:cool:

Are you in any of the other two PatsFans leagues? If not you can always create another one and I'm sure you could find 9 more people on here to join.

could people who registered identify their team name with poster name so we know who is who?

This is what I've got so far.

Poster - Team Name
fumbrunner - the hoff
Seymour93 - The Richard Seymours
Aldogg - Dogg Pound
PatsFanInVA - VA Fighting Bulldogs
DaBruinz - Dallas Stallions
drakesta101 - Koolaid's Krew

[pats1]

Are you in any of the other two PatsFans leagues? If not you can always create another one and I'm sure you could find 9 more people on here to join

This is what I've got so far.

Poster - Team Name
fumbrunner - the hoff
Seymour93 - The Richard Seymours
Aldogg - Dogg Pound
PatsFanInVA - VA Fighting Bulldogs
DaBruinz - Dallas Stallions
drakesta101 - Koolaid's Krew

I'm Randy being Randy.

What you guys could do is go into your fantasy profiles, go to "change nickname," and if you don't already have a nickname to use in place of your Yahoo! ID, if you could put down your username here that would be great. I did that myself.

[pats1]

Personally, NEM is the type of Fantasy GM that ruins leagues because of what others have said. He drafts dubiously and then doesn't do anything about his roster. Personally, I wouldn't mind that team being replaced with someone else. And I can say this because he's done in each of the Patsfans leagues that he's been in over the past 2 years.

NEM is long gone. ;)

[pats1]

How do you know it was truly NEM?

Tomorrow night is fine with me.

Don't know 100%, but the nickname used by the user was indeed NEM.

I'm not sure if he can read the forum or not to view the password. If he couldn't, I'm sure he could have gotten the password by other means *cough*...

[PatsFanInVa]

PS - somebody asked about leagues w/individual defensive players. I run a league on Yahoo, and we have 1 DL or LB, 1 DB, and 1 Defensive Flex player on each team. We don't have "DEF/ST". But if your receiver, rb, db, or whatever, runs backs kicks and/or punts, you get points.

It's a hoot. But I wouldn't want to set it up overnight for a new league.

PFnV

[pats1]

So what settings do we want for defense?

Here's what I have right now:

1 QB, 3 WR, 2 RB, 1 TE, 0 WR/TE, 0 WR/RB, 1 K, 1 DEF, 0 DP, 0 DB, 0 DL, 8 BN.

Here's what we can choose from (remember there's a bench too):

QB: 0-5
WR: 0-7
RB: 0-7
TE: 0-5
WR/TE: 0-5
WR/RB: 0-5
K: 0-3

DEF (team): 0-3
D player: 0-7
DB: 0-5
DL: 0-5

Bench: 0-20

Keep in mind it's a 12-team league too.

[MrBigglesWorth]

Personally I like team defense, but I'll go with what the majority wants. The rosters sometimes get too large.

[drakesta101]

So what settings do we want for defense?

Here's what I have right now:

1 QB, 3 WR, 2 RB, 1 TE, 0 WR/TE, 0 WR/RB, 1 K, 1 DEF, 0 DP, 0 DB, 0 DL, 8 BN.

Here's what we can choose from (remember there's a bench too):

QB: 0-5
WR: 0-7
RB: 0-7
TE: 0-5
WR/TE: 0-5
WR/RB: 0-5
K: 0-3

DEF (team): 0-3
D player: 0-7
DB: 0-5
DL: 0-5

Bench: 0-20

Keep in mind it's a 12-team league too.

Haha wow should be a blast...I'm already setting my sites on Will Witherspoon in the 15th Round if we max it out.

[drakesta101]

I say 1 QB, 2 RBs, 3 WRs, 1 TE, 1 K, 7 Dplayers (choose 4-3 or 3-4) 4 dbacks and a big bench

[Underoath]

Underoath = NE Pats

...real original team name huh?

[Seymour93]

I have no preference regarding the issue of team D or defensive players. I don't think we should have any WR/TE or WR/RB though.

[pats1]

I say 1 QB, 2 RBs, 3 WRs, 1 TE, 1 K, 7 Dplayers (choose 4-3 or 3-4) 4 dbacks and a big bench

But for a 12-team league, that sounds a bit high.

How about 3 Dplayers, 3 DBs, and 2 DLs to even it out?

For the bench, we'll need 1 QB, 1-2 RBs, 2-3 WRs, 1 TE, 0-1 K, 2-3 Dplayers, 1-2 DB and 1 DL...so 13-player bench?

EDIT: There's a 25-man limit, so here's what I was thinking:

-Add 1 DEF for there's 1 team defense per team
-Drop 1 DB
-Drop 1 DL
-Drop 3 BN

[pats1]

Also, are there any particular stats settings we want? It's a head-to-head league, BTW. I think they're all on the defaults right now.

[drakesta101]

But for a 12-team league, that sounds a bit high.

How about 3 Dplayers, 3 DBs, and 2 DLs to even it out?

For the bench, we'll need 1 QB, 1-2 RBs, 2-3 WRs, 1 TE, 0-1 K, 2-3 Dplayers, 1-2 DB and 1 DL...so 13-player bench?

EDIT: There's a 25-man limit, so here's what I was thinking:

-Add 1 DEF for there's 1 team defense per team
-Drop 1 DB
-Drop 1 DL
-Drop 3 BN

Sounds good to me.

[MrBigglesWorth]

Also, are there any particular stats settings we want? It's a head-to-head league, BTW. I think they're all on the defaults right now.

I'd like to see a 50+ yard field goal kicked up a point or 2 from what it is now.

Everthing else looks good and I don't like therb/wr flex position either.

[drakesta101]

Is it possible to get that Special Teamer position as well? I think this would add a little excitement for when a guy like Welker or a Hester touches the ball.

I believe someone mentioned it earlier -that might have such an option for yahoo leagues.

EDIT: I checked back - he said he just modified the scoring system to include points for players that have such versatility. I think it would be a good idea

[pats1]

Is it possible to get that Special Teamer position as well? I think this would add a little excitement for when a guy like Welker or a Hester touches the ball.

I believe someone mentioned it earlier -that might have such an option for yahoo leagues.

I tried to do that but got some error about selecting categories by position type.

I'd like to see a 50+ yard field goal kicked up a point or 2 from what it is now.

Everthing else looks good and I don't like therb/wr flex position either.

I don't see it under the roster options.

[drakesta101]

I tried to do that but got some error about selecting categories by position type.


It seemed like he explained it as a scoring option - so I think to include it the scoring system has to be modified

[pats1]

It seemed like he explained it as a scoring option.

Right, you can change the points for a 50+ yard field goal by a kicker. But when I do so I get that error for some reason.

[drakesta101]

Right, you can change the points for a 50+ yard field goal by a kicker. But when I do so I get that error for some reason.

Oops, sorry I meant modifying the scoring format to include Punt Returns and Kick Returns - If It don't work then don't bother.

I quoted the wrong part of that text.

[PatsFanInVa]

You guys are just getting nuts.

GRAND TOTAL 3 defensive guys, MAYBE 5, is plenty to track. Trust me. I've run a league like this (with IDPs.)

I have no problem with flex players (WR/RB). I do have a prob. w/a flex TE/WR, but could live with one.

I also have a problem with these insane, way off-brand configurations being bubbled up 10 seconds before the season. Come on now.

Keep it at least within spitting distance of a recognizable format, since everybody will NOT be watching the evolving rule committee all day tomorrow (some of us have jobs.)

PFnV

[drakesta101]

You guys are just getting nuts.


Keep it at least within spitting distance of a recognizable format, since everybody will NOT be watching the evolving rule committee all day tomorrow (some of us have jobs.)

PFnV

I just checked the settings and return TD's are included so don't bother - ya we are going nuts huh.

[pats1]

You guys are just getting nuts.

GRAND TOTAL 3 defensive guys, MAYBE 5, is plenty to track. Trust me. I've run a league like this (with IDPs.)

I have no problem with flex players (WR/RB). I do have a prob. w/a flex TE/WR, but could live with one.

I also have a problem with these insane, way off-brand configurations being bubbled up 10 seconds before the season. Come on now.

Keep it at least within spitting distance of a recognizable format, since everybody will NOT be watching the evolving rule committee all day tomorrow (some of us have jobs.)

PFnV

They'll be done by tonight, I promise. ;)

OK, so how about 2 DP, 1 DB, 0 DL, 1 DEF, 9 BEN?

[PatsFanInVa]

They'll be done by tonight, I promise. ;)

OK, so how about 2 DP, 1 DB, 0 DL, 1 DEF, 9 BEN?

Works for me... so it's 2 dplayers of any kind, 1 required DB.... then you are throwing in a team Defense, and making a 9 man bench...

Okay, will check this out, especially what our D guys score on.

PFnV

[drakesta101]

BTY, you have to set which stats score points for the IDP's yourself - I made that mistake last year in a league I was commissioner and we had a few IDP's wasting positions on the teams because they weren't able to accumulate points.

[pats1]

BTY, you have to set which stats score points for the IDP's yourself - I made that mistake last year in a league I was commissioner and we had a few IDP's wasting positions on the teams because they weren't able to accumulate points.

Nice catch.

So what point values do we want for the following categories:

-Tackle Solo
-Tackle Assist
-Sack
-Interception
-Fumble Force
-Fumble Recovery
-Touchdown
-Safety
-Pass Defended
-Block Kick

[drakesta101]

Nice catch.

So what point values do we want for the following categories:

-Tackle Solo
-Tackle Assist
-Sack
-Interception
-Fumble Force
-Fumble Recovery
-Touchdown
-Safety
-Pass Defended
-Block Kick

I like em all.

[pats1]

I like em all.

Right, but how many points for each?

[drakesta101]

Right, but how many points for each?

Do they have a default setting, its kinda hard to gauge otherwise.

[drakesta101]

http://sports.yahoo.com/fantasy/nfl/news?slug=ab-idpprimer-07
This guy suggests these scoring settings.

These are the scoring settings we use for defensive players in my main IDP league:

1 point per tackle
0.5 points per assist
2 points per sack
4 points per interception
2 points per forced fumble
2 points per fumble recovery
2 points per safety
1 point per pass defended
3 points per blocked field goal
6 points per defensive touchdown

[pats1]

Do they have a default setting, its kinda hard to gauge otherwise.

I can't find any.

Here's what another IDP league has:

Tackle Solo (2)
Sack (5)
Interception (3)

[DaBruinz]

Can I just say that I never want to use AOL Fantasy again. They got rid of their Chat function during the draft... It SUX

[drakesta101]

Go back to the bottom of the 6th page - I found a good default setting.

[pats1]

Go back to the bottom of the 6th page - I found a good default setting.

Yeah, I just applied those.

[drakesta101]

Yeah, I just applied those.

I dont mean to be a pain in the ***** or an OCD freak -but I checked the settings real quick and the guys in bold are wrong.

Tackle Solo (1)
Tackle Assist (.5)
Sack (2)
Interception (4)
Fumble Force (2)
Fumble Recovery (2)
Touchdown (2)
Safety (1)
Pass Defended (3)
Block Kick (6)

[pats1]

I dont mean to be a pain in the ***** or an OCD freak -but I checked the settings real quick and the guys in bold are wrong.

Tackle Solo (1)
Tackle Assist (.5)
Sack (2)
Interception (4)
Fumble Force (2)
Fumble Recovery (2)
Touchdown (2)
Safety (1)
Pass Defended (3)
Block Kick (6)

I think you're looking at team defense. The IDP settings are correct.

Also, what about kickoff/punt return touchdowns and return yards under team defense? Those have 0 points as of right now. But there are some points for individual returns though.

[Seymour93]

I dont mean to be a pain in the ***** or an OCD freak -but I checked the settings real quick and the guys in bold are wrong.

Tackle Solo (1)
Tackle Assist (.5)
Sack (2)
Interception (4)
Fumble Force (2)
Fumble Recovery (2)
Touchdown (2)
Safety (1)
Pass Defended (3)
Block Kick (6)

Two points for a defensive TD? That seems awfully low.

[drakesta101]

I think you're looking at team defense. The IDP settings are correct.
I know I look like a ****head, but this is an exact copy and paste from the league settings

Sack (1)
Interception (2)
Fumble Recovery (2)
Touchdown (6)
Safety (2)
Block Kick (2)
Points Allowed 0 points (10)
Points Allowed 1-6 points (7)
Points Allowed 7-13 points (4)
Points Allowed 14-20 points (1)
Points Allowed 21-27 points (0)
Points Allowed 28-34 points (-1)
Points Allowed 35+ points (-4)
Tackle Solo (1)
Tackle Assist (.5)
Sack (2)
Interception (4)
Fumble Force (2)
Fumble Recovery (2)
Touchdown (2)
Safety (1)
Pass Defended (3)
Block Kick (6)

The solo tackles and assists and everything below that are only for IDP's and a TD would never be worth less than a pass defended anyways.



Also, what about kickoff/punt return touchdowns and return yards under team defense? Those have 0 points as of right now. But there are some points for individual returns though.

I'll do a quick google

[patsox23]

pats1, you know I love ya, man, but just LET THE NEM thing go. Who cares? Just be kind, stop piling on, give the guy a break.

[pats1]

I know I look like a ****head, but this is an exact copy and paste from the league settings

Sack (1)
Interception (2)
Fumble Recovery (2)
Touchdown (6)
Safety (2)
Block Kick (2)
Points Allowed 0 points (10)
Points Allowed 1-6 points (7)
Points Allowed 7-13 points (4)
Points Allowed 14-20 points (1)
Points Allowed 21-27 points (0)
Points Allowed 28-34 points (-1)
Points Allowed 35+ points (-4)
Tackle Solo (1)
Tackle Assist (.5)
Sack (2)
Interception (4)
Fumble Force (2)
Fumble Recovery (2)
Touchdown (2)
Safety (1)
Pass Defended (3)
Block Kick (6)

The solo tackles and assists and everything below that are only for IDP's and a TD would never be worth less than a pass defended anyways.

I'll do a quick google

Ah, I see what the problem is. The ones you linked to were in a different order than what Yahoo has now. I'll fix that.

[pats1]

pats1, you know I love ya, man, but just LET THE NEM thing go. Who cares? Just be kind, stop piling on, give the guy a break.

Doesn't really have anything to do with that. But the first priority in filling these spots are PatsFans.com members.

[drakesta101]

Hmmm...I can't find much...I'd say 6 per TD and 20, 25, or 30 yards per point, just so someone who nabs a return man doesn't get rewarded 7 points a game if the other team gets scored on 7 times.

[The 12th Man]

I like the settings now. By the way, I'm Sittin' Shotgun.

[PatsFanInVa]

You're aware that we're going to be running up like 250 point games, right?

3 for a pass defensed? Over in my other league you get 1 for that, same as a solo tackle.

[PatsFanInVa]

And a blocked kick worth as much as a TD?

Hey, I'll go before I draft, and whatever we use, we use.. I'm a little worried about the roster size (3 WR, 2 RB, 9 bench, 3 defensive players, a team D...) it's like everything but the kitchen sink... this is going to be one gruelling draft!

[pats1]

You're aware that we're going to be running up like 250 point games, right?

3 for a pass defensed? Over in my other league you get 1 for that, same as a solo tackle.

Right, that's been fixed.

[khayos]

Khayos' Kegerators ready to rock you all.

This should be fun, can't wait until the draft tonight!

[bakes781]

Any room left? What time is the draft?

[pats1]

Any room left? What time is the draft?

Sorry, it's full.

[Aldogg]

Does somebody else note the irony of week one my Dogg Pound is going against a team named Bad Newz Kennels.

[pats1]

Does somebody else note the irony of week one my Dogg Pound is going against a team named Bad Newz Kennels.

:rofl:

All of that is decided randomly too.

[fumbrunner]

An hour and a bit to go. Got all my research done. You are all going down!! :rocker:

[PatsFanInVa]

Okay, changed my name from the Fighting Bulldogs to the Dell Flaming Li-Ions, since everybody else did a Vick riff too. Screw you guys.

See ya in an hour!

[VJCPatriot]

Full league. :(

[Flying Fungi]

Okay, changed my name from the Fighting Bulldogs to the Dell Flaming Li-Ions, since everybody else did a Vick riff too. Screw you guys.

See ya in an hour!

That is an awesome name.

Even though the batteries were technically Sony OEM.

[pats1]

I was just checkin' out last year's league that DaBruinz won.

I had the 1st pick last year - and took Alexander. He and his broken foot got me 124 points. DaBruinz took LT with the 3rd pick and reeled in 414 points.

Oh well. My top performer last year was Bulger with 263 points. I went 7-7. DaBruinz had Brady (233), Jones-Drew (217), and Wayne (181) and went 10-3-1.

[pats1]

CRAP!

I have the 12th pick in the draft. That's the last pick for those keeping score at home.

Draft order:

1) Badnewz Kennels
2) NE Pats
3) Sittin' Shotgun
4) The Flaming Laptops
5) Khayos' Kegerators
6) The Richard Seymours
7) Dallas Stallions
8) Koolaid's Krew
9) MrBigglesworth
10) Dogg Pound
11) the hoff
12) Randy being Randy

[DaBruinz]

CRAP!

I have the 12th pick in the draft. That's the last pick for those keeping score at home.

Draft order:

1) Badnewz Kennels
2) NE Pats
3) Sittin' Shotgun
4) The Flaming Laptops
5) Khayos' Kegerators
6) The Richard Seymours
7) Dallas Stallions
8) Koolaid's Krew
9) MrBigglesworth
10) Dogg Pound
11) the hoff
12) Randy being Randy

Pats1 -
For some reason, I keep getting an error when I try to connect. Also, did you move the draft up?

[pats1]

Pats1 -
For some reason, I keep getting an error when I try to connect. Also, did you move the draft up?

Nope, it's still at 7:45.

What kind of error are you getting?

[DaBruinz]

I was just checkin' out last year's league that DaBruinz won.

I had the 1st pick last year - and took Alexander. He and his broken foot got me 124 points. DaBruinz took LT with the 3rd pick and reeled in 414 points.

Oh well. My top performer last year was Bulger with 263 points. I went 7-7. DaBruinz had Brady (233), Jones-Drew (217), and Wayne (181) and went 10-3-1.

And Jones Drew was someone I picked up during the season. I can also remember getting ridiculed for taking Brady in the 2nd round. HAH.. *GRIN*

[DaBruinz]

Nope, it's still at 7:45.

What kind of error are you getting?

Its says: ERROR: Failed to Connect to Server.

Can you get into the draft room?

[pats1]

Its says: ERROR: Failed to Connect to Server.

Can you get into the draft room?

Yeah, I'm in with a bunch of others.

There should be somewhere on there to "Test your system." Could be a firewall problem.

[AirForcePatFan]

The league is full...Anyone doing another fantasy league?

[DaBruinz]

Yeah, I'm in with a bunch of others.

There should be somewhere on there to "Test your system." Could be a firewall problem.

Found the thing about testing my system. Could be that I need to have a public IP...Hold on...

[DaBruinz]

Just an FYI, Flaming Laptops, Warren had 56 solos and 28 assists, plus 7.5 sacks and a forced fumble. I incorrectly said 87 when it was 84.

The Pats coaches had him at 117 total tackles. There has been at least 2 articles on Warren mentioning this.

[khayos]

I can't believe what an amazing team I have. Good luck hahaha!

[drakesta101]

Since I didn't get Maroney I can no longer call myself Koolaid's Krew ---So to add to the confusion that is our fantasy football league my new team is Gisele's Bunch-en

[khayos]

Since I didn't get Maroney I can no longer call myself Koolaid's Krew ---So to add to the confusion that is our fantasy football league my new team is Gisele's Bunch-en

Maybe we could trade :)

[drakesta101]

Maybe we could trade :)

Check my roster...who da you like?

[pats1]

Who dropped Justin Miller and why?

NOTE: I picked him up, but if whoever dropped him didn't understand the scoring system, I could always make a trade...

[PatsFanInVa]

No worries, Bruinz, I feel good about what I was saying (though you were thinking total tackles and I was thinking solo.) I said 60 was the upside (talking about tackles,) and I think that's still about right.

Might work out pretty well, given how active he was in penetrating the line. They should have TFL as a stat... something tells me Warren did that more than a time or two as well.

And hey KHAYOS... your team SUCKS!

PFnV

[khayos]

No worries, Bruinz, I feel good about what I was saying (though you were thinking total tackles and I was thinking solo.) I said 60 was the upside (talking about tackles,) and I think that's still about right.

Might work out pretty well, given how active he was in penetrating the line. They should have TFL as a stat... something tells me Warren did that more than a time or two as well.

And hey KHAYOS... your team SUCKS!

PFnV

LOL who are you?

[khayos]

Check my roster...who da you like?

I'll look and propose a trade if I see a good match.

[Underoath]

I dropped Justin Miller. I already had Chris McAllister and Asante Samuel. And I'm going to play Joey Porter.

And no, I've never played with defensive players so maybe I am missing something...

[PatsFanInVa]

Khayos, I'm the Flaming Laptops

[bakes781]

Full league. :(

Maybe we could start our own next week?

[pats1]

I dropped Justin Miller. I already had Chris McAllister and Asante Samuel. And I'm going to play Joey Porter.

And no, I've never played with defensive players so maybe I am missing something...

Well, Miller will get you a lot of return points. Samuel and McAllister will only get you points for tackles and INTs. But that's fine, I'll keep Miller. :D

[Underoath]

Well, Miller will get you a lot of return points. Samuel and McAllister will only get you points for tackles and INTs. But that's fine, I'll keep Miller. :D

I didn't know he was a return guy :( I should've done more research before I released him. Although I should have known that anyway, I guess, considering it's the Jets.

I got to the draft room late yesterday and the computer didn't draft me another RB (I have 2) and I'm looking for another decent one, so if someone wants to look at my roster and offer a trade for a RB, go for it. My team name is NE Pats.

[VJCPatriot]

Maybe we could start our own next week?

Sure sounds good, PM me.

[DaBruinz]

No worries, Bruinz, I feel good about what I was saying (though you were thinking total tackles and I was thinking solo.) I said 60 was the upside (talking about tackles,) and I think that's still about right.

Might work out pretty well, given how active he was in penetrating the line. They should have TFL as a stat... something tells me Warren did that more than a time or two as well.

And hey KHAYOS... your team SUCKS!

PFnV

60 solo tackles is a LOT. Like I said, the Pats coaches credited him with 117 total and I am sure that there were more solos than assists in there.

7.5 sacks from a 3-4 D-lineman is a LOT also... *GRIN*

Warren is my BACK-UP D to Bart Scott and Zach Thomas...

[PatsFanInVa]

60 solo tackles is a LOT. Like I said, the Pats coaches credited him with 117 total and I am sure that there were more solos than assists in there.

7.5 sacks from a 3-4 D-lineman is a LOT also... *GRIN*

Warren is my BACK-UP D to Bart Scott and Zach Thomas...

60 is a HELL of a lot of solo tackles for a D Lineman, especially in the Pats' system, widely known to plug the gaps and let the linebackers get the glory.

Hell, the 7.5 sacks pretty much pushes him into decent backup territory. I see no reason to believe that number won't increase this year.

PFnV

[bakes781]

For those who missed out I'm setting up yet another league on yahoo. lol I'll have the details on a new thread. ;) For those already participating in leagues here please refrain from joining. Thank You! :)

And here's the new league http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/showthread.php?p=487699#post487699

draft starts tomorrow @ 7PM

[PatsFanInVa]

I'm up to 5 or six... I think I better pass. No on second thought, I think I'll run...