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The best explanation of the current strategy and tatics I have seen from the Small Wars Journal. The author has been on the ground in Iraq (right now actually).
http://www.smallwarsjournal.com/blog...rent-operatio/ Quote:
The entire article is well worth reading. This quote is not from a commercial site.
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"the end of the beginning... changes in tactics... " the Eagle is about to start whooping some ass.... hey, when US forces put their plan into effect, i have no doubt they're gonna kill a lot of bad people... and i have no doubt that journalists like this will bring the story home of a great tactical American victory, and there'll be a period of resurgance by the pro-war 25% and their "told-you-so" talking points back home... but it can't, and won't, last... the scab is picked... these people absolutely hate eachother now... we can round up and kill 10,000, heck 50,000 terrorists in August/September, but AQ is just gonna filter back into Iraq across their rather open borders, start blowing things up again to get the dogs fighting and sabotage reconstruction.... you don't just blow up 105 people on a bright sunny afternoon, and then expect it to be all forgotten once democracy gets a foothold... and this is happening almost every day... you don't "get control" of hatred this fresh... these people need to be seperated at this point... sucks, but we asked for it... spend 400 million on that sewage plant after you've done a "clear/hold" on the neighborhood? great.... expect it to cost 800 million... between looting, sabotage, fraudulent over-charges and kickbacks.. and on and on... boom!!! you war enthusiasts (sorry, don't know what else to call you) seem to be overconfident that this secret X's and O's plan is some tactical Belichick brilliance that will be unleashed in the coming months... and, militarily, it probably will be... but, ah well... the Baathists are still out of work, the borders are still open, AQ is still training hundreds of new monsters in Pakistan every day... frankly, i wouldn't be surprised if this "surge" is nothing more than positioning for a strike on Iran... Palpatine is just that sinister and sneaky....
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From the Article:
"So much for theory. The practice, as always, has been mixed. Personally, I think we are doing reasonably well and casualties have been lower so far than I feared. Every single loss is a tragedy. But so far, thank God, the loss rate has not been too terrible: casualties are up in absolute terms, but down as a proportion of troops deployed (in the fourth quarter of 2006 we had about 100,000 troops in country and casualties averaged 90 deaths a month; now we have almost 160,000 troops in country but deaths are under 120 per month, much less than a proportionate increase, which would have been around 150 a month). And last year we patrolled rarely, mainly in vehicles, and got hit almost every time we went out. Now we patrol all the time, on foot, by day and night with Iraqi units normally present as partners, and the chances of getting hit are much lower on each patrol. We are finally coming out of the "defensive crouch" with which we used to approach the environment, and it is starting to pay off. " My concern is quite simple that it is felt that 90-120 deaths of american men and women per month is justified in this conflict.. when our reason to be there is suspect.. to rationalize the success of this in how many of our soldiers dies begs the issue, every day we read of extremists blowing up other Iraqi's.. truck bombs, bombs on the police etc. It is not about how many of our soldiers do or do not die, but the effect on this country and figuring out how to transfer power to a country that seems reluctant to accept it and the realities of its political divisions. There is no exit strategy and it seems that the Iraqi Gov't has to first recognize its divisions, neutralize the various factions and then try to proceed with some type of peace.. maybe dividing the country into three sections may be the best way, what is going on now is not the best way. While we measure our success or failure in soldier deaths, the deaths of non combatants, women and children is horrifying. But that is war, great efforts are made to do body counts on soldiers, but there is little attention paid to the women and children who seem to suffer most in this and most wars.
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the last sentence being the most troubling... somehow, i doubt our opponents grasp and truly care about the collateral damage... they fall back on the old "it's war... things happen" card...
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We've all heard the story of Washington's Army and the winter at Valley Forge. The fact that it was still called an Army and not a Division or even a Platoon come spring is the proof that the soon-to-be USA had the backbone to lead itself. Where are the Iraqis? After 4 years Cornwallis was trapped against the sea and about to be forced home by a rag-tag bunch of farmers during our revolution. After four years and with the aid of the most devastating and sophisticated military force ever put together on this planet, the Iraqis are just starting to come around? If theses people were willing to buy what we're selling, it would have happened a long time ago.
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Time To Come Home
Let The Savages Slaughter Each Other If The World Is Concerned About These Murdering Pigs Let The UN Handle It.
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Which opponent are you referring to Al Queda or people who support the idea of thr WOT?
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