Official Pats/Texans Discussion

[pats1]

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December 17, 2006
Welcome to Gillette

FOXBOROUGH -- Welcome to Gillette Stadium, where the Patriots host the Texans today (1 p.m.).

A few quick notes to pass along:

On Friday, the Patriots had linebackers Sam Cowart (http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/12300) and Orlando Ruff (http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/146536)in for tryouts. The team's depth at linebacker is thin, and Cowart and Ruff are likely on the team's short list in an emergency.

Also, keep an eye on safety Guss Scott today, as he is likely to be activated to the team's' 53-man roster. The team has an open roster spot, and special teams are a concern today. Scott could potentially help there.

Here at the stadium, it is currently 46 degrees, party cloudy, and windy. The conditions are better than one would have expected for this time of year in New England.

Scouts from the Jaguars and Colts are scheduled to be in attendance today. The Patriots visit the Jaguars next weekend, and the Texans host the Colts.

We'll have more throughout the day.

Posted By: mreiss | Time: 10:20:06 AM

[Remix 6]

Guss Scott predictions: 3 ST tackles, 1 FF and 1 Jacked UP

[PatsWickedPissah]

It's probably easiest to get a guy like Scott ready for ST play. It's mostly keeping you lanes and running downfield kamakazzi style.

[DaBruinz]

It's probably easiest to get a guy like Scott ready for ST play. It's mostly keeping you lanes and running downfield kamakazzi style.

Not to mention that he was playing special teams before the Pats let him go.

I almost feel sorry for the kid. His agent messes up his contract to the point where he's signing 1 year deals with no signing bonus and the kid gets injured each of his 1st 3 seasons.

[PATSNUTme]

I'll have my eye on the OL to see if they are pissed enough to be focused, mean, and nasty.

[Remix 6]

I'll have my eye on the OL to see if they are pissed enough to be focused, mean, and nasty.

they blitz a lot..and Mario is fast..can we stop them?

[Remix 6]

I expect that, if Jackson is starting, on the first play from scrimmage, a deep post pattern to him.

Yeah, I know, I am in la la land. :D


i wish u werent. i love chad.

[DisgracedTexansFan]

they blitz a lot..and Mario is fast..can we stop them?

Mario's foot has been keeping him from being explosive. He's been getting a lot of double-teams against him and opponents generally don't run to his side of the ball. We blitz a fair amount of time, but even Tennessee kept us from Vince Young for the most part last week. Just get used to hearing the name DeMeco Ryans.

[Remix 6]

Mario's foot has been keeping him from being explosive. He's been getting a lot of double-teams against him and opponents generally don't run to his side of the ball. We blitz a fair amount of time, but even Tennessee kept us from Vince Young for the most part last week. Just get used to hearing the name DeMeco Ryans.

it aint hard to beat Light and Kazcur. hes still faster than a lot of DEs even with a foot problem

[Keegs]

does anyone know if this game is on Sopcast or TVU player?

help a brother out.

K, peace out homies.

[wcda]

Looks like we are out of luck according to this
http://www.myp2p.eu/NFL.htm

[Keegs]

Looks like we are out of luck according to this
http://www.myp2p.eu/NFL.htm

well i think that sucks.

I'm tired of listening to them on the damn radio.

Also, Sopcast has sucked lately, and many of the games that are supposed to be on don't even exist.

[italian pat patriot]

we need a win today - Go Pats !!!!!

[edgecy]

Thank God they're resting Maroney. We definitely need a 100% LoMo for the playoff.

[italian pat patriot]

Thank God they're resting Maroney. We definitely need a 100% LoMo for the playoff.


Wilfork and Watson too

[sieglo]

What is the Patsfans.com chat URL? The link from the home page no longer works.

?????

[Sean Pa Patriot]

Well we need a impresive win, not lion type win.. I want to see passion and energy, something I have not seen since Minn..

[Remix 6]

we won coin toss!

[The Gr8est]

NFL coverage sucks here in central Texas. The one thing that has been consistent is that they broadcast the Titans games regardless of the other great games available.

So I know I'm going to get to see the Pats-Houston game today right?

Nope, I get the Tennessee-Jacksonville game.

[PaulNEPats]

Nice one Jabar

[SVN]

dropped...

[Remix 6]

against your former team

[MoLewisrocks]

Well lets note for NEM discussions later that that wasn't on the OC. 3rd and 10 beautiful deep pass to Gaffney and while he beat the coverage he simply cannot catch a beautifully thrown ball.

[SVN]

is it just the tv coverage or the crowd noise just looks non existent early on ?

[oldskool138]

Gaffney is out...Kight is in...

[Remix 6]

err..why pass on 2nd with 3 to go? run it consistently mr. Mc D

[Sean Pa Patriot]

We need reciever help badly...

[sieglo]

Hey these announcers today are actually pretty good!

[oldskool138]

We need reciever help badly...

No...:rolleyes:

Their core is fine...

[Remix 6]

coach. put 1 7 in

[Sean Pa Patriot]

Nice run Corey..

[Sean Pa Patriot]

coach. put 1 7 in

He is still trying to understand the playbook

[oldskool138]

He need to use what he's been saving up all season...

[MoLewisrocks]

Kubiak gambles and loses on a fake punt in the first quarter inside the 50. Nice work by the punt coverage team to snif that out. Foolish play we need to capitalize on.



TD Faulk!

[Remix 6]

He is still trying to understand the playbook

Gaffney still needs help understanding the fundamentals of catching the ball. its a win win situation. :)

[The Gr8est]

Bad break for Jacksonville. Fred Taylor had a big run and looked like he could go all the way, but pulled a hamstring and stepped out of bounds. Then Pacman Jones picks David Garrard and returns if for 6 the other way.

[sieglo]

Damn, for a second I thought Faulk was gonna fumble that right into the end zone.

[oldskool138]

TD!!!!!!! Sweet! I wish they'd change the TD music...U2 is not football music.

[Patriots4Ever]

I see Corey Mays Is playing.Is that just ST?,Or is he in on some snaps on the D?

[SVN]

We need reciever help badly...

true but for this game at least from what we have seen so far...we should just run run and run the ball...no need to throw just for the sake of it...

[PaulNEPats]

Woooot Seymour!

[oldskool138]

Seymour!!!!

[SVN]

good to see the screen pass out twice so far....

[The Gr8est]

Steve McNair got his right hand stepped on and is out for the game. X-rays negative. Kyle Boller is in, 7-3 Ravens.

[sieglo]

Wow, we need to learn to tackle.

[SVN]

come on guys ..tackle....

[DisgracedTexansFan]

See guys, I told y'all we were terrible. Wow, we suck.

[SWelker]

Great Screen! Td Faulk!!

[PaulNEPats]

Wow, what a start! Just what the doctor ordered!!!!! :D

[pats1]

Kevin Faulk should get cut. He's worthless. He fumbles too much. :D

[The Gr8est]

The protection of QBs is such a joke. Early in the game Tennessee got a penalty when pushing Garrard out of bounds .."extending the arms". Later Garrard was running to the sidelines, the defender let up rather than hit him and Garrard lowered his shoulder and hit the defender as he was going out of bounds. No penalty of course, nor should there be.

...but the QB can punish the defender and still be immune himself?

[SVN]

another screen...looks like mcd is compensating for the lack of it in the past weeks ..all in 1 game :)

[Sean Pa Patriot]

Its not over yet, but this is the type of game this team needed.. I do see a lot more emotion than the lions game..

[carolinatony]

Woooot Seymour!

What did he do? Sack...
Game not on tv in carolina....

[SVN]

anyone think..this CBS annoucing crew of gannon and co is better than most ?

[Remix 6]

Woooot Seymour!

What did he do? Sack...
Game not on tv in carolina....

Colvin got the sack

[Amanichai]

Doesn't it feel good to beat up on somebody.

[The Gr8est]

Still in the 1st qtr and Ty Warren already has 4 tackles.

[cblesz]

site slow again today?

[Remix 6]

Still in the 1st qtr and Ty Warren already has 4 tackles.

and Faulk has 2 TDs :)

[Sean Pa Patriot]

anyone think..this CBS annoucing crew of gannon and co is better than most ?

I will take these 2 over Bryant Gumbal..

[SVN]

1 screen too many .....;)

[Amanichai]

I can't see the game is there any sight of Chad Jackson or is he still out?

[Sean Pa Patriot]

We need some help from the Vikings today..

[carolinatony]

Who is playing for Big Vince? How does Dillon look? Is he running much?

[The Gr8est]

Nailbiter between Green Bay and Detroit 3-3 into the 2nd quarter. If there are any changes I'll be sure not to post them.

[Poll]

Even Walter is punting further than 30 yards.

[Sean Pa Patriot]

I have a bad feeling we wont be getting help from the Vikes today.. Jets driving right now..

[SVN]

Who is playing for Big Vince? How does Dillon look? Is he running much?

i think we have run just 2 basic plays...the screen and dillon run...sure brady has thrown here and there which havent worked with the WR's which is still a concern but so far as i can see...just those 2 basic staple plays...

[Remix 6]

I have a bad feeling we wont be getting help from the Vikes today.. Jets driving right now..

Jets 10-7 now. Coles was juking a little too muchfor Vikes to stop him

[MoLewisrocks]

site slow again today?

It's really erratic. Getting data base error messages, intermittently it's taking minutes to open pages, etc.

Seems fine at the moment...

[Amanichai]

Does anybody know why chad Pennignton is out of the game?

[Sean Pa Patriot]

Thank god for David Carr

[oldskool138]

Crash the Carr!!!

[The Gr8est]

Kyle Boller with a TD pass. Cleveland must REALLY suck!

[oldskool138]

Houston is playing like our boys did last week...

[Sean Pa Patriot]

Does anybody know why chad Pennignton is out of the game?

I think you mean Mcnair from Baltimore , he is out of the game with the ravens and browns..

[Sean Pa Patriot]

Finally a game we can sit down and enjoy, and its at home as well.. wow..

[SVN]

damn INT........??? nope...

[oldskool138]

damn INT........??? nope...

No Incomplete

[Sean Pa Patriot]

If there is a negative today, too many drops...

[cblesz]

Brady has consistently been short with his passes. Not only today but for most of the season. Anyone notice?

[Amanichai]

I think you mean Mcnair from Baltimore , he is out of the game with the ravens and browns..

Yeah, it looks like it was a glitch in the NFL.com website. It was listing Ben Graham as the one making the plays leading up to the FG. Dang!

[SVN]

Finally a game we can sit down and enjoy, and its at home as well.. wow..

yup...but the stadium looks empty as far as sound goes..probably no one pumped up about houston....

[drewdagreat]

These Gator WRs suck...except Caldwell.

[oldskool138]

If there is a negative today, too many drops...

The WR's just aren't that good. Tom has been accuarte but they can't hang on *cough* Gaffney *cough*

[carolinatony]

How's Dillon looking today?

[SVN]

Brady has consistently been short with his passes. Not only today but for most of the season. Anyone notice?

yes..probably because he isnt too confident with his receivers other than caldwell and brown...he doesnt throw to anyone else other than those two unless its an actual called play....

[oldskool138]

How's Dillon looking today?

Not bad...but they've been using more Faulk.

[Patriots4Ever]

How's Dillon looking today?

Dillion is..... 7 for 15 rushing/ 3 for 10 recieving 2day..

[Sean Pa Patriot]

Today we could survive, but we are going to need Maroney and Watson... And can we get a little something from Chad jackson, just a little..

[SpiritOf76]

It's good to see some urgency in the level of play today, and some better execution all around.

[Remix 6]

Today we could survive, but we are going to need Maroney and Watson... And can we get a little something from Chad jackson, just a little..

has he seen the field today?

[Sean Pa Patriot]

has he seen the field today?

they said he was in once..

[SVN]

How's Dillon looking today?

usual pounding self...pats have started on texans territory most of the time so there has been much chance to see anyone for an extended period of time ..and the couple of times they have started on their side, they didnt do much...

[oldskool138]

has he seen the field today?

I think you'll see Michael Jackson out there before you see Chad. :D

[Remix 6]

I think you'll see Michael Jackson out there before you see Chad. :D

i dotn wanna see kiddy porn

[The Gr8est]

Tank Johnson gets arrested for gun possession and then his bodyguard is shot and killed.

Why can't we get guys like that?

[Sean Pa Patriot]

The passing game is a concern, not to be a downer but it is... that kind of looked like a catch that brown had, on the third down play..

[SVN]

3rd drop of the day......its quite predicatable with our offense...3rd down is always brown or caldwell especially with no maroney...teams which key in on those 2 can get off the field most of the time...

[cblesz]

The passing game is a concern, not to be a downer but it is...

That's an understatement...

[SVN]

The passing game is a concern, not to be a downer but it is... that kind of looked like a catch that brown had, on the third down play..

tough one ..but brady prefers that than to try run a play for thomas or klight or gaffney...this texans team has masked all our off woes so far...if they could stop our run it wouldve been a little more interesting for us...

[oldskool138]

Special Teams came to play...Nice to see that unit stepping it up.

[Remix 6]

mike wright. waaddddup cuz

[oldskool138]

SACK!!!! Carr Accident!

[SVN]

good job wright..blown up screen play...

[The Gr8est]

Buffalo up on Miami, 7-0.

[SVN]

Nailbiter between Green Bay and Detroit 3-3 into the 2nd quarter. If there are any changes I'll be sure not to post them.

come on...favre is having so much fun playing again, its so much fun to see favre having so much fun................;)

[Sean Pa Patriot]

This has been nice so far but need to see more from the passing game, wish we had this field position last week...

[Patriots4Ever]

The defense Is playing extremely well today.I hope we can keep this up for the remainder of the game.

[Remix 6]

wow Coles just made a nice catch over Smoot.

17-7 Jets..cmon Vikings help us out

[oldskool138]

C'mon Brady...

[Sean Pa Patriot]

That was a coverage sack...

[SVN]

This has been nice so far but need to see more from the passing game, wish we had this field position last week...

that sack tells us how much diff our WR's have to get open against the texans....

[Sean Pa Patriot]

or should I say a no one could get open sack... Did see Chad Jackson on the field...

[Remix 6]

cmon Mankins..you and your fellow OL go offsides way too much this year

[DisgracedTexansFan]

3rd drop of the day......its quite predicatable with our offense...3rd down is always brown or caldwell especially with no maroney...teams which key in on those 2 can get off the field most of the time...

I can't believe that any Pats fan would criticize your team when you're up 20-0. I wish I could be like that just one game in the history of my horrible team. Do you see the QB play we're getting? He was a #1 overall draft pick and is probably the worst QB in the league.

Congrats on your win though, guys, sorry my team couldn't give y'all a better practice. Watch out for the Titans, though.

[Sean Pa Patriot]

We miss Deion Branch nuff said...

[Sean Pa Patriot]

Looks like the division will have to wait till next week.. Vikes cant help us out..

[cblesz]

I know we are up 20-0. But if this passing game does not get fixed, we are not going very far...Brady needs to start throwing it away and not taking a sack.

[oldskool138]

I can't believe that any Pats fan would criticize your team when you're up 20-0. I wish I could be like that just one game in the history of my horrible team. Do you see the QB play we're getting? He was a #1 overall draft pick and is probably the worst QB in the league.

Congrats on your win though, guys, sorry my team couldn't give y'all a better practice. Watch out for the Titans, though.

Thanks...The Titans and Jax have become very dangerous.

We are a little spoiled by the Pats run of success. We expect the best every week. When you have the best coach/QB combo of the decade, your expectations are high.

[Sean Pa Patriot]

I have not said this in a while ,but this is a win for us ,with 5:00 min left in the first half...

[Patriots4Ever]

WOOOHOOOO Tully!!! Nice Sack...

[SVN]

I can't believe that any Pats fan would criticize your team when you're up 20-0. I wish I could be like that just one game in the history of my horrible team. Do you see the QB play we're getting? He was a #1 overall draft pick and is probably the worst QB in the league.

Congrats on your win though, guys, sorry my team couldn't give y'all a better practice. Watch out for the Titans, though.

no criticism's man...its obvious the problems we have...just pointing out those...carr hasnt had much help with playing for 15 diff systems and the texans not getting bush

[oldskool138]

Eaaaasy now...There's still a whole other half to play. Remember what happened in the first Jets game.

[SVN]

4 min drive..lets go and end this right guys...

[SVN]

pass interference....

[oldskool138]

WOW a pass interference call goes our way...

[SVN]

iam impressed by this cbs annoucing crew..always tells us who is on the field on every play, who the pass goes to usually on 3rd down....better than that espn clowns for sure....

[The Gr8est]

T.O. apologized for spitting in DeAngelo Hall's face. He said that it was a case where Hall kept bugging him and bugging him....seems that gives everyone in the country an excuse to spit in T.Os face.

[oldskool138]

iam impressed by this cbs annoucing crew..always tells us who is on the field on every play, who the pass goes to usually on 3rd down....better than that espn clowns for sure....

It's not hard to be better than ESPN...Chris Berman needs to drive his car off a bridge.

Yet anoter TOUCHDOWN by the way!!!!!

[The Gr8est]

Baltimore 17 Cleveland 10. Browns are coming back.

[SVN]

It's not hard to be better than ESPN...Chris Berman needs to drive his car off a bridge.

Yet anoter TOUCHDOWN by the way!!!!!

true but most crews wouldnt tell you there were 6 DB's for the texans on that touch down play..helps us understand those coverage sacks and receivers not getting open issues once in a while...

[oldskool138]

true but most crews wouldnt tell you there were 6 DB's for the texans on that touch down play..helps us understand those coverage sacks and receivers not getting open issues once in a while...

This crew is less annoying than some of the others (i.e.- The Lions game crew).

[Sean Pa Patriot]

Damn Vikings they stink...20-7 Jets

[DisgracedTexansFan]

no criticism's man...its obvious the problems we have...just pointing out those...carr hasnt had much help with playing for 15 diff systems and the texans not getting bush

I'm having a hard time seeing your problems right now! I know we suck as a team, but I've never seen us look this bad before. That's a good sign for you guys. God, I can only hope that Mario Williams can play anywhere close to Richard Seymour's level. Your team is SOLID all around.

[SVN]

asante.....

[Jimke]

To have a passing game you need good or at least adequate wide receivers.

It's much too late for this year. Hopefully, our front office will be more

active next March.

[Sean Pa Patriot]

Well I will finish this game at work. Very nice win today.. I know its early but its over.. Good luck the rest of the way..

[Remix 6]

here comes the knee

[MoLewisrocks]

tough one ..but brady prefers that than to try run a play for thomas or klight or gaffney...this texans team has masked all our off woes so far...if they could stop our run it wouldve been a little more interesting for us...

Yup. We've been handling them just fine thanks to some a stupid gaff by their HC and some more picks off an inept QB (although we are starting to sputter now up by 20) even without Maroney or Watson because their defense is overwrought already. But the broader questions about our receiving corps remain... Caldwell, Brown, ?, ??, ???

Well at least we know Jabar can make the wide open easy catch sometimes. Hopefully that's something he can build on. GAME

Unfortunately the Texans aren't the kind of team you face come January when you're up against either stiffer defenses, or explosive offenses or some combination of both.

[SVN]

I'm having a hard time seeing your problems right now! I know we suck as a team, but I've never seen us look this bad before. That's a good sign for you guys. God, I can only hope that Mario Williams can play anywhere close to Richard Seymour's level. Your team is SOLID all around.

no disrespect ..iam happy our team isnt playing down to competition for once but i think our passing game can be better...the score doesnt indicate that i know but the play does...lets hope gaffeny and crew improve...mario williams should improve i think but this league is built for offense and unless he has more people like him...teams will put a TE and take him away..texans need a few more like him to see his true abilities IMO

[The Gr8est]

I'm having a hard time seeing your problems right now! I know we suck as a team, but I've never seen us look this bad before. That's a good sign for you guys. God, I can only hope that Mario Williams can play anywhere close to Richard Seymour's level. Your team is SOLID all around.

Stay with it DTF. If you care enough to post on our site when your team is doing this bad, then you really are a fan. The payoff will be worth it some day.

Most of us have been through that and the 1st SB win was orgasmic .

[PaulNEPats]

Wow, the Texans punter makes Ken Walter look like a hall of famer

[oldskool138]

I'm having a hard time seeing your problems right now! I know we suck as a team, but I've never seen us look this bad before. That's a good sign for you guys. God, I can only hope that Mario Williams can play anywhere close to Richard Seymour's level. Your team is SOLID all around.

You probably didn't see the last two games the Pats have played (vs. Lions and at Miami). They were very inconsistent. The defense kept them in the Miami game and bailed them out in the Lions game.

Hopefully, for us New England fans, this is a good sign because our next two games are on the road against hungry, scrappy teams looking for a playoff spot.

[Remix 6]

Wow, the Texans punter makes Ken Walter look like a hall of famer

well hes averaging about 6 yards more per punt..critical sometimes :o

[ChadJacksonFan]

Is Chad Jackson even playing today or still hurt I can't get the game in Alabama today again.

[unoriginal]

Here's something for y'all. This is the Texans radio color commentator:

"You know, they have a good core of players, for the last couple years, a good core of players but the support cast has changed a lot the last few years. And you know something? They just continue to win."

Play-by-play: "Houstan down 27 to 0, second most in Texans history, with 1:16 to go in the first half."

Color: "They just continue to win, and you know, even with that turnover I'm sure every Texan fan would be absolutely thrilled to have what they have going. I mean, who who possibly be disappointed with a record like that? Nine and four is a phenomenal record, and they do it every year."

[Remix 6]

Is Chad Jackson even playing today or still hurt I can't get the game in Alabama today again.

hes active...seen the field like 2-3 times so far

[SVN]

Is Chad Jackson even playing today or still hurt I can't get the game in Alabama today again.

playing..has been in the field a few times i think doing what he usually has done this season...not much...

[taltos]

DTF, as other posters have said, hang in there, it will get better. I think that there was a more incredible feeling for me when the Patriots went to their first Super Bowl since it came out of nowhere. Really enjoyed all the Super Bowl wins, but that first appearance for me was even more special, until the game started.

[SVN]

AFC East:
Bills 7-0 against fins
Jets 23-7 against minn

[RayClay]

I can't believe that any Pats fan would criticize your team when you're up 20-0. I wish I could be like that just one game in the history of my horrible team. Do you see the QB play we're getting? He was a #1 overall draft pick and is probably the worst QB in the league.

Congrats on your win though, guys, sorry my team couldn't give y'all a better practice. Watch out for the Titans, though.

I feel your pain.

I'm usually down on being negative but we had a real bad game last week and our offense has really looked out of synch. Everybody here is watching the passing game particularly looking for improvement.

You've got to get a good coach and organization and support them. I don't think Carr is bad, I just think there's too much disorgnization. Ittakes time and consistency.

[DisgracedTexansFan]

Oh, I'll keep supporting my team no matter what, but the faults of this team are so glaring and it just seems like it'll be years before we're even competitive with great teams like yours. First day draft mistakes and bad QB play have been the damnation of this franchise.

And, you're right Remix, our punter is awful. But he is a good fit for our team as they're ALL terrible with the exception of DeMeco Ryans, who's been pretty silent today himself.

I guess I'm just sick of losing, guys, and get some enjoyment from watching fans who are enjoying watching their team give another team a massive ass-kicking!

[BradyManny2344]

hes active...seen the field like 2-3 times so far

Actually, he's been in quite a bit more than that - it's just that nearly every play he is in on is a running play.

I'd say he's been in roughly 10 plays, 8 were runs, 2 were passes - one was a screen, and one was the time Brady was sacked. They never showed a replay so it was hard to tell what kind of route he ran or if he was open, but I still think Tom has to at some point just trust in CJ's athleticism and throw the ball his way. CJ will make the play.

I'm hoping we see a lot more of him in the 2nd half - with this kind of lead, there's no reason not too.

All the other receivers have shown positive signs, Caldwell continues to be absolutely money on 3rd down - Gaffney had the TD, also had the drop, but the fact that he got open was good to see.

[BradyManny2344]

playing..has been in the field a few times i think doing what he usually has done this season...not much...

They aren't asking him to do much. Like I said above, he's been in on mostly running plays. Of course, that won't stop people from whining about him not producing.

[Remix 6]

Oh, I'll keep supporting my team no matter what, but the faults of this team are so glaring and it just seems like it'll be years before we're even competitive with great teams like yours. First day draft mistakes and bad QB play have been the damnation of this franchise.

And, you're right Remix, our punter is awful. But he is a good fit for our team as they're ALL terrible with the exception of DeMeco Ryans, who's been pretty silent today himself.

I guess I'm just sick of losing, guys, and get some enjoyment from watching fans who are enjoying watching their team give another team a massive ass-kicking!

whats wrong with Johnson man? Hes 1 of my favorite WRs and hes from da U but few dropped balls?

[The Gr8est]

Oh, I'll keep supporting my team no matter what, but the faults of this team are so glaring and it just seems like it'll be years before we're even competitive with great teams like yours. First day draft mistakes and bad QB play have been the damnation of this franchise.

And, you're right Remix, our punter is awful. But he is a good fit for our team as they're ALL terrible with the exception of DeMeco Ryans, who's been pretty silent today himself.

I guess I'm just sick of losing, guys, and get some enjoyment from watching fans who are enjoying watching their team give another team a massive ass-kicking!

It's so important to make something out of the #1 choice. Mario Williams will be a great defensive cornerstone, but you could have traded down and still gotten him. San Diego trading Eli Manning for Philip Rivers and Shawn Merriman is the type of deal that builds champions.

[SVN]

Oh, I'll keep supporting my team no matter what, but the faults of this team are so glaring and it just seems like it'll be years before we're even competitive with great teams like yours. First day draft mistakes and bad QB play have been the damnation of this franchise.


i dont blame the QB much, he hasnt had a consistent system...dont count on it taking it yrs...all it takes is one game or one change here and there and you guys can be good...happened to us with the 2001 team. Still early to talk about mario williams, if they draft another good DE next yr to support him next yr maybe he can be great...Belichick has always said , its the toughest position to find players in so eventually that pick may pan out better the bush...

[Jimke]

With a 27 to 0 score, why not put in Chad Jackson to get a little

game experience?

[SVN]

They aren't asking him to do much. Like I said above, he's been in on mostly running plays. Of course, that won't stop people from whining about him not producing.

and it doesnt stop people from consistently asking what he is doing when its obvious he hasnt been on the field or done much this yr

[SVN]

With a 27 to 0 score, why not put in Chad Jackson to get a little

game experience?

he has been in the game...we have mostly started on the texans 40 yard line..so hardly anyone has gotten a chance to play an extended drive

[Keegs]

That old dude on Patriots radio who always calls Reche Caldwell, David Givens just said it was 27-20......

But the Texans haven't scored at all right?

[DisgracedTexansFan]

whats wrong with Johnson man? Hes 1 of my favorite WRs and hes from da U but few dropped balls?

I wrote on my overview of the team that AJ does have a tendency to drop balls. A couple of his drops have just been bad placement by Carr, but he's made a lot of mistakes this season that's led to turnovers, included being stripped a couple of times and a couple of picks have resulted from him not making the catch. His main problem is that he doesn't use his hands when he catches.

He'll probably be available as a FA the year after next, he's disgusted with this team as is Dunta Robinson. No way those guys will choose to stick around with our joke of a franchise.

Oh, and thank you everyone for trying to up my spirits. I know that it'll have to get better eventually, but I've waited 5 years and have watched teams go from garbage to playoffs, I'm still waiting on some positives from the Texans.

[SVN]

anyone see those bills -fins highlights, how they were blocking the miami d line ?

[Keegs]

I wrote on my overview of the team that AJ does have a tendency to drop balls. A couple of his drops have just been bad placement by Carr, but he's made a lot of mistakes this season that's led to turnovers, included being stripped a couple of times and a couple of picks have resulted from him not making the catch. His main problem is that he doesn't use his hands when he catches.

He'll probably be available as a FA the year after next, he's disgusted with this team as is Dunta Robinson. No way those guys will choose to stick around with our joke of a franchise.

Oh, and thank you everyone for trying to up my spirits. I know that it'll have to get better eventually, but I've waited 5 years and have watched teams go from garbage to playoffs, I'm still waiting on some positives from the Texans.

Is Tony Boselli still playing on your OLine??

hahahahahah:singing:

[RayClay]

Oh, I'll keep supporting my team no matter what, but the faults of this team are so glaring and it just seems like it'll be years before we're even competitive with great teams like yours. First day draft mistakes and bad QB play have been the damnation of this franchise.

And, you're right Remix, our punter is awful. But he is a good fit for our team as they're ALL terrible with the exception of DeMeco Ryans, who's been pretty silent today himself.

I guess I'm just sick of losing, guys, and get some enjoyment from watching fans who are enjoying watching their team give another team a massive ass-kicking!

This will cheer you up. It's our senior Football writer at the Globe giving his opinion of our highest pick in this era.


"On a day when they could have had impact players David Terrell or Koren Robinson or the second-best tackle in the draft in Kenyatta Walker, they took Georgia defensive tackle Richard Seymour, who had 1 sacks last season in the pass-happy SEC and is too tall to play tackle at 6-6 and too slow to play defensive end. This genius move was followed by trading out of a spot where they could have gotten the last decent receiver in Robert Ferguson and settled for tackle Matt Light, who will not help any time soon. - Ron Borges, MSNBC after 2001 Draft.

I say generally, drafting high for defense Line is a good sign. That's what we do.

[oldskool138]

anyone see those bills -fins highlights, how they were blocking the miami d line ?

It's easy to do when you aren't stealing signs. I bet Buffalo made sure they switched up their cadence for this week.

[Remix 6]

I wrote on my overview of the team that AJ does have a tendency to drop balls. A couple of his drops have just been bad placement by Carr, but he's made a lot of mistakes this season that's led to turnovers, included being stripped a couple of times and a couple of picks have resulted from him not making the catch. His main problem is that he doesn't use his hands when he catches.

He'll probably be available as a FA the year after next, he's disgusted with this team as is Dunta Robinson. No way those guys will choose to stick around with our joke of a franchise.

Oh, and thank you everyone for trying to up my spirits. I know that it'll have to get better eventually, but I've waited 5 years and have watched teams go from garbage to playoffs, I'm still waiting on some positives from the Texans.

i want AJ as a Patriots..hes big..fast..strong. dropsies can get fixed most of the time..with some work.

[oldskool138]

ELLIS HOBBS!!!!! The first special teams TD of the year! The Pats are the last team to score a ST TD this year. Take from that what you will...

[DaBruinz]

Lousy opening drive by the defense. Great run back by Hobbs to kill the Texans momentum. The kid has been ELECTRIC on the returns he's done.

Now, the defense has to step up and hold them.

[The Gr8est]

17-17 Cleveland vs Baltimore. Go Browns!

[The Gr8est]

Good to see Dave Thomas gets some PT. 3 receptions for 24.

[SVN]

thats the typical mcdaniels playcalling :) ..we are able to run simple straight forward plays against this defense ...and we try reverse screens, pitch out to evans for a loss... i hope he is calling them like practice plays.

[oldskool138]

A good punt by Walter...I'm checking out my window to see if pigs are in flight! :D

[The Gr8est]

Buffalo is leading Miami 14-0. I guess last week was Miami's Superbowl.

[Keegs]

ELLIS HOBBS!!!!! The first special teams TD of the year! The Pats are the last team to score a ST TD this year. Take from that what you will...

Ummm i'll take 6 points from it.

Because im not sure what else we could possibly take from it.

I guess i just don't understand your "take from that what you will" comment.

In all honesty, i can't physically take ANYTHING from that play.

[SCPatBoy]

Our offense is still painful to watch..The worst I have seen in te Brady era.

1) Heath Evans should only get 1 to 2 carries a game and those should be right up the belly Fullback dives...

2) Why not at least try and get CJ involved...I have come to th econclusion that he can't be any worse then our #2 WR......Lets at least see if we can get him involved

3) Thius isn't a good team we are playing and we have had awesome field position the whol game and have failed in many attempts at getting TD's instead of FG's.......

4) Looking at Brady's passing yards and th eteams total offense it is clear to see that this won't get it done during the Playoffs

[oldskool138]

Ummm i'll take 6 points from it.

Because im not sure what else we could possibly take from it.

I guess i just don't understand your "take from that what you will" comment.

In all honesty, i can't physically take ANYTHING from that play.

I meant that teams like the 49'ers, Lions, Texans et al, have all scored TD's on ST. That's all...

[oldskool138]

Asante's price tag just went up $500,000

[Fanfrom1960]

Our offense is still painful to watch..The worst I have seen in te Brady era.

1) Heath Evans should only get 1 to 2 carries a game and those should be right up the belly Fullback dives...

2) Why not at least try and get CJ involved...I have come to th econclusion that he can't be any worse then our #2 WR......Lets at least see if we can get him involved
This site is bad again, might as well be down. Oh well.

[The Gr8est]

Just a comment here for DTF. If your defense hasn't quit yet with the position that Carr has put them in all day. THAT is something very positive that you can take from this game.

[cblesz]

site is awful again. can't they get the right server? Geez.

[The Gr8est]

Amazing stat of the game. Houston leads the Pats in 1st downs, 12-11.

[Patriots4Ever]

Asante's price tag just went up $500,000

Unfortunately....Grrrrr,What is that 9 this year now? Good grief..

[Patriots4Ever]

Im glad Corey Mays is gettin some action in there at LB.

[oldskool138]

Im glad Corey Mays is gettin some action in there at LB.

Yeah, the young guys need some real-time real-game experience. I hope the Pats draft or sign some young LB tallent.

[The Gr8est]

Has Pierre Woods gotten any reps at LB?

[The Gr8est]

You are losing by 33 in the 4th. Why would you punt?

[SVN]

next week becomes a must win now...with the jets winning and having to play miami and oak, our last 2 games look a lot tougher...
what happens if us and jets are tied ?

[oldskool138]

Hello, Matt! Good to see you!

[Box_O_Rocks]

Hill, Smith, and Green in at DL. I don't know how long they have been in the game, though I'm suspecting it was early with Dayne's sudden improvement up the middle - they were there for the Asante pick as Smith got a good push up the middle.

[SVN]

i wouldve thought brady would try an 80 drive given the opportunity...cassell in now

[DisgracedTexansFan]

Just a comment here for DTF. If your defense hasn't quit yet with the position that Carr has put them in all day. THAT is something very positive that you can take from this game.

I told y'all David Carr is garbage. The defense is probably exhausted by this point, but it is good to see parts of the team at least having some pride and try to make plays.

[carolinatony]

I guess Miami won their SB last week. Won't be any trolls this week to hear from!!

[Patriots4Ever]

I would LOVE to See Cassell lead us for a scoring drive to Ice this game Up...Great Game..Im glad to take a win,even if it is against the Texans.

[SVN]

tenn beating jags 24-10 ...now that team comes with a must win situation next week

[The Gr8est]

Bruschi has 10 tackles, Mays has 3, 0 for Hill.

[oldskool138]

I would LOVE to See Cassell lead us for a scoring drive to Ice this game Up...Great Game..Im glad to take a win,even if it is against the Texans.

Dude, the game was iced in the second quarter ;)

[Patriots4Ever]

Dude, the game was iced in the second quarter ;)

I know man,But after that asskickin we took last week.I want to see this offense at 50+ points.

[oldskool138]

I know man,But after that asskickin we took last week.I want to see this offense at 50+ points.

Fair enough. They've scored enough for two (Patriot) games already.

[The Gr8est]

Man I already like Vince Young a whole lot more than I ever liked Michael Vick.

[Box_O_Rocks]

I told y'all David Carr is garbage. The defense is probably exhausted by this point, but it is good to see parts of the team at least having some pride and try to make plays.

Look at Harrington in Detroit and now in Miami, bad coaching can ruin a QB. Give Kubiak some time to build up an O-line and see if he can settle Carr down - the kid can hardly help being gun-shy with all his war wounds. I'm just surprised you got a good DE in the draft with Casserly still around for the draft.

[The Gr8est]

Now THAT was a bad play. Vince Young just lost 22 yards on a sack when Tennessee should have been trying to kill clock.

[Patriots4Ever]

It may be just me,But I like that they Give Vinny the chance to get on the field.Even if its only for the final kneel downs.I think that shows alot of respect to the guy...

[oldskool138]

Alright Vinnie! Take those knees! :D

[Box_O_Rocks]

It may be just me,But I like that they Give Vinny the chance to get on the field.Even if its only for the final kneel downs.I think that shows alot of respect to the guy...Well, also remember that the old QB is more likely to handle the snap with more surety than the young QB...:)

[Kdo5]

I went to the game today(my first). I loved it. The offense wasnt really great, but they did what was necesary and got points off some superb play by the defense. THE man was Faulk. I felt good to see him pull out two big TD's in the first Quarter. I mean quite a bunch of people get all over him when he fumbles or makes a bad play. But he is really usefull for the offense. The offense could use some more spark, we need Maroney back because with 3 good RB's, its surely better than 2. Gaffney dropped a picture perfect bomb from Brady. Caldwell is doing a consistent good job but our other recievers really need to step it up. I am still wondering why Gabriel was cut...

But ST coverage was really good, some nice punts that went within the 10 yard line from Walter, plus Hobbs' awesome return. So all the INT's, the defense did a great job. Nice win but we really need a great offensive performance to beat the Jaguars....

[DaBruinz]

I told y'all David Carr is garbage. The defense is probably exhausted by this point, but it is good to see parts of the team at least having some pride and try to make plays.

Carr isn't the problem. The Texans O-line is the problem. They couldn't keep a front line of a bunch of 5'9" 100 lb grandmothers from getting to Carr.