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Old 12-15-2006, 06:17 AM
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Saw this article this AM, about how mohammed atta's luggagge was not put on the plane in Portland and how the two pieces tied all of the conspiracy together for the investigators. My issue is that from afar it looks too tidy, know atta and crew were not rocket scientists, but to bring two pieces of luggage with all of their info inside; including plans, names of conspirators, last wills etc. Then not get them on the planes and then the investigators find them... I do not subscribe to all of the conspiracy theories, but sometimes this stuff does not seem as real as it should be.

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationwo...age-bigpix2005

Former federal terrorism investigators say a piece of luggage hastily checked in at the Portland, Maine, airport by a World Trade Center hijacker on the morning of Sept. 11 provided the Rosetta stone enabling FBI agents to swiftly unravel the mystery of who carried out the suicide attacks and what motivated them.

A mix-up in Boston prevented the luggage from connecting with the plane that hijackers crashed into the north tower of the trade center. Seized by FBI agents at Boston's Logan Airport, investigators said, it contained Arab-language papers revealing the identities of all 19 hijackers involved in the four hijackings, as well as information on their plans, backgrounds and motives.

The luggage saga represents what the former federal authorities describe as an untold story of 9/11 -- offering explanations for questions long unanswered about the investigation of the tragedy, such as how authorities were able to identify the hijackers so soon after the attacks.

The former federal investigators said information found in the bag was passed on to Justice Department lawyers, who prosecuted Zacarias Moussaoui on charges growing out of the suicide attacks. A Justice Department spokesman, Brian Roehrkasse, said: "Under the judge's order, we're not going to comment on anything relating to the case."
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Old 12-15-2006, 02:17 PM
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Saw this article this AM, about how mohammed atta's luggagge was not put on the plane in Portland and how the two pieces tied all of the conspiracy together for the investigators. My issue is that from afar it looks too tidy, know atta and crew were not rocket scientists, but to bring two pieces of luggage with all of their info inside; including plans, names of conspirators, last wills etc. Then not get them on the planes and then the investigators find them... I do not subscribe to all of the conspiracy theories, but sometimes this stuff does not seem as real as it should be.
You mean to say the dude's luggage got delayed in Boston, and you see this as something that makes you go "hmmmm..."...?

Besides, the untold story of the "untold story" is probably that his luggage was given a little extra bit of scrutiny before his trans-continental flight and that probably caused the delay which made it miss his plane in the first place. I doubt it was the "mix-up" they claim it was.

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Old 12-15-2006, 02:33 PM
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I think he means that it's somewhat strange that the hijackers would have information in their suitcases. It may seem odd, but if you were one of the hijackers, and you knew you were going to fly a 757 into the WTC, you'd probably want all your evidence with you as the attack would make for the ultimate paper shredder. No way any of the info survives the attack if it's on the plane.
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The official story explaining 9-11 is a coverup.

This is the greatest tragety in american history, and has yet to be fully investigated or explained.

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I think he means that it's somewhat strange that the hijackers would have information in their suitcases. It may seem odd, but if you were one of the hijackers, and you knew you were going to fly a 757 into the WTC, you'd probably want all your evidence with you as the attack would make for the ultimate paper shredder. No way any of the info survives the attack if it's on the plane.
How do you explain the fact that they found passports from the 'hijackers' in NYC? Somehow the passports can survive a planecrash and building collapse.


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Old 12-15-2006, 03:42 PM
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George Bush & Dick Cheney were flying the planes. It was a controlled demolition, and Charlie Sheen is right, they weren't commercial airliners. He's seen them before and like Pujo, he's a bottom-line kind of guy.
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Republicants are too scared to look into what really happened. Thats why Bush stonewalled the 911 commission so long. They don't want the public to know how for 30 minutes hijacked plans could be offcourse and bearing down on targets and the air force was told to stand down. Bushs public relations pet goat reading was more important than national security.
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Saw this article this AM, about how mohammed atta's luggagge was not put on the plane in Portland and how the two pieces tied all of the conspiracy together for the investigators. My issue is that from afar it looks too tidy, know atta and crew were not rocket scientists, but to bring two pieces of luggage with all of their info inside; including plans, names of conspirators, last wills etc. Then not get them on the planes and then the investigators find them... I do not subscribe to all of the conspiracy theories, but sometimes this stuff does not seem as real as it should be.

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationwo...age-bigpix2005

Former federal terrorism investigators say a piece of luggage hastily checked in at the Portland, Maine, airport by a World Trade Center hijacker on the morning of Sept. 11 provided the Rosetta stone enabling FBI agents to swiftly unravel the mystery of who carried out the suicide attacks and what motivated them.

A mix-up in Boston prevented the luggage from connecting with the plane that hijackers crashed into the north tower of the trade center. Seized by FBI agents at Boston's Logan Airport, investigators said, it contained Arab-language papers revealing the identities of all 19 hijackers involved in the four hijackings, as well as information on their plans, backgrounds and motives.

The luggage saga represents what the former federal authorities describe as an untold story of 9/11 -- offering explanations for questions long unanswered about the investigation of the tragedy, such as how authorities were able to identify the hijackers so soon after the attacks.

The former federal investigators said information found in the bag was passed on to Justice Department lawyers, who prosecuted Zacarias Moussaoui on charges growing out of the suicide attacks. A Justice Department spokesman, Brian Roehrkasse, said: "Under the judge's order, we're not going to comment on anything relating to the case."
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Republicants are too scared to look into what really happened. Thats why Bush stonewalled the 911 commission so long. They don't want the public to know how for 30 minutes hijacked plans could be offcourse and bearing down on targets and the air force was told to stand down. Bushs public relations pet goat reading was more important than national security.
What exactly would have liked to see happen?

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What exactly would have liked to see happen?

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They certainly shouldn't have allowed over a hundred Saudis, some connected with bin Laden to fly out of the country immediately after 9/11.
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