A CIA Insider's Take on Gates

[Holy Diver]

Opinion piece by Ray McGovern about Gates....

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald...n/16158060.htm

"Still, Rep. Rush Holt, D-N.J., who was an analyst in the State Department's intelligence bureau and now sits on the House Intelligence Committee, has called Gates' nomination ''deeply troubling'' and appealed for hearings that are ``thorough and probing.''

this is truly the shady aftermath

[Real World]

I don't know much about Gates, but that dude sure don't like him. Niether does the Robert Parry guy. At the Consortiumnews.com site, every article is anti-Gates.

[Holy Diver]

yeah.....

but hes the new secretary now.

BREAKING NEWS : The US Senate Armed Services Committee has unanimously approved the nomination of Robert Gates, President Bush's nominee, to be defense secretary.

[All_Around_Brown]

In the post-Rumsfeld Republican wasteland, Lyndon Larouche would look like a solid choice from Bush.

Gates said all the right things today. Whether it was just more sugar coating will be seen real soon.

[Holy Diver]

Originally Posted by All_Around_Brown

In the post-Rumsfeld Republican wasteland, Lyndon Larouche would look like a solid choice from Bush.

Gates said all the right things today. Whether it was just more sugar coating will be seen real soon.

I've gotta belive at this point it is all sugar coating by Gates. The more I read about this guy, them more I think we are F*(@ed. Is this just Deja Vu all over again?


CIA Veteran: How Robert Gates Cooked the Intelligence
By Daniel Schulman

Link : http://www.motherjones.com/washingto...n_goodman.html

"Intelligence cherry-picked for ideological purposes; the claims of a single, unreliable source treated as fact and stovepiped straight up to the White House; a National Intelligence Estimate riddled with dubious claims; efforts made to connect an enemy regime with international terrorism. Echoing the prelude to the Iraq War, these are, in fact, a sampling of the allegations directed at Robert Gates 15 years ago, when the Senate Intelligence Committee considered Gates' nomination to be the director of Central Intelligence."

[All_Around_Brown]

Originally Posted by Holy Diver

I've gotta belive at this point it is all sugar coating by Gates. The more I read about this guy, them more I think we are F*(@ed. Is this just Deja Vu all over again?


CIA Veteran: How Robert Gates Cooked the Intelligence
By Daniel Schulman

Link : http://www.motherjones.com/washingto...n_goodman.html

"Intelligence cherry-picked for ideological purposes; the claims of a single, unreliable source treated as fact and stovepiped straight up to the White House; a National Intelligence Estimate riddled with dubious claims; efforts made to connect an enemy regime with international terrorism. Echoing the prelude to the Iraq War, these are, in fact, a sampling of the allegations directed at Robert Gates 15 years ago, when the Senate Intelligence Committee considered Gates' nomination to be the director of Central Intelligence."

Diver...theres a difference. For the first time in 6 years, he will now be subject to a new thing in DC called OVERSIGHT. If he is not forthcoming, he will be forced into a very uncomfortable position.

I wasn't crazy about him, but he's the best we can hope for at this stage.

[Holy Diver]

Originally Posted by All_Around_Brown

Diver...theres a difference. For the first time in 6 years, he will now be subject to a new thing in DC called OVERSIGHT. If he is not forthcoming, he will be forced into a very uncomfortable position.

I wasn't crazy about him, but he's the best we can hope for at this stage.

Ahhhhhhhhhh!.......I think its the 6 years of unchecked imbalances that has me thinking that these guys will get away with being evil.

thanks for the head check, Brown!

[Real World]

Since the vote was 21-0, can we account blame to both sides if this guy sucks royally? I couldn't tell you didly about Gates, and I'm sure few in here could. What I do know is that a year from now, if this guy blows, it'll be GW's fault, and GW's fault only to some in this forum.

[All_Around_Brown]

Originally Posted by Real World

Since the vote was 21-0, can we account blame to both sides if this guy sucks royally? I couldn't tell you didly about Gates, and I'm sure few in here could. What I do know is that a year from now, if this guy blows, it'll be GW's fault, and GW's fault only to some in this forum.

No, it is GWs fault that this move wasn't made when everyone called for it over two years ago. Allowing Rummy to stay on that long wasted time, resources, and lives. But his political image as the Great Decider was more important to him than the lives of thousands of people apparently.

[Harry Boy]

Democrats:
They voted for the war.
They voted for Gates.

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