Official Pats/Lions Discussion

[pats1]

http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/reiss_pieces/

December 03, 2006
Welcome to Gillette

FOXBOROUGH -- Welcome to Gillette Stadium, where the Patriots host the Lions today (1 p.m. ET).

The current temperature is 40 degrees and it's sunny. The flag in the south end of the stadium is hardly rippling.

Scouts from the Vikings and Dolphins are scheduled to be in attendance today. The Lions host the Vikings next week, while the Dolphins entertain the Patriots.

In Sunday's Boston Globe (http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/articles/2006/12/03/driven_toward_success/), defensive end Ty Warren is profiled by columnist Jackie MacMullan in a piece that details Warren's long road to the NFL.

With Jeff Triplette scheduled to referee today's game, this marks the first time that the Patriots have had the same ref this season. The team has had games officiated by Terry McAulay, Scott Green, Gerry Austin, Bill Vinovich, Ed Hochuli, Triplette, Larry Nemmers, Peter Morelli, Ron Winter, Mike Carey and Walt Coleman.

We'll have more throughout the day.

Posted By: mreiss | Time: 10:02:25 AM

[PATSNUTme]

I don't post during the game because I'm too intense.

So, I'll just say that I hope we see a Patriots team that is focused and play a good hard, clean game and put this team away early.:rocker:

[Remix 6]

damn..CJ isnt playing :(

well Chad Scott is back at least

[gomezcat]

0-0 so far. This offence really needs to step it up.

[Keegs]

this game will be a bloodbath. You can take that to the bank.

Then you'll have to clean "it" off because it will be covered in so much blood from the Bloodbath.

A bloodbath, wait and see.

[VJCPatriot]

Alrighty I'd be happy with a 28-14 Pats win here or something like that. We've gotta take care of teams that we should beat if we want the #2 seeed. Go Pats! Listening in on radio. In some ways its better than tv broadcast.

[shakadave]

http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/reiss_pieces/

Pats1, you and I say "Come on, defense!"

[Seymour93]

Who the hell are JC Pearson and Matt Vasgaereiaanaan? Ohh well they gotta be better than the NFLN duo.

[PatsMyBoyz!]

I don't post during the game because I'm too intense.

So, I'll just say that I hope we see a Patriots team that is focused and play a good hard, clean game and put this team away early.:rocker:

:yeahthat: I don't know why,but I'm nervous about this one-trap game,maybe that's why. Ok-Go pats!!

[VJCPatriot]

Wow Maroney is averaging 29 yards per kickoff return. We haven't had that good a returner since Jon Vaughn. And Maroney is an even more promising running back. Talk about a big rookie contributor! I'm hoping he gets some looks against this Lions D. If we can dominate the ground we're going to win.

[Seymour93]

"Replacing Damien Woody has really been an issue." No it hasn't. :D

[PaulNEPats]

Offsides on a punt... sloppy

[Seymour93]

Who is #46? Mays? Woods?

[shakadave]

Hate that penalty --- unnecessarily put more wear and tear on Vrabel.

[VJCPatriot]

Why did we give em a free first down after stonewalling em? Gotta play tighter than that guys.

[shakadave]

Is Woody playing?

[PaulNEPats]

Is Woody playing?

He's on IR

[MrBigglesWorth]

Is Woody playing?

He's on the IR.

[Patters]

Special Teams are starting off kind of sloppy. Offsides on a punt, holding during a kick.

[lobster]

Only 14 of us in the patsfans chat room - more are welcome.

[pats1]

Who is #46? Mays? Woods?

Mays is 46, Woods is 58. Both are active today.

[Seymour93]

Ok... 3rd and 1 is where you run it, NOT on a 3rd and 4 like earlier.

[MrBigglesWorth]

I hate the double tend I formation formation

[VJCPatriot]

challenge the catch!

[DefenseRules]

Phew, just got home. What have I missed?

[shakadave]

Classic Gil Santos torture: "it's deep to Reche Caldwell --- CAUGHT!"

[Seymour93]

Phew, just got home. What have I missed?

Nothing really. Both teams have been pretty sloppy.

[VJCPatriot]

No score yet in the game. Pats driving. I think they should challenge the Reche Caldwell catch/noncatch. They can challenge that right?

[VJCPatriot]

As I've said recently, Caldwell has quietly become our best wide receiver.

[MrBigglesWorth]

looks like they're starting to figure out the defense

[Ahriman]

Oh man, that injury looks serious. He wasn't moving at all.

[Seymour93]

A Doug Gabriel sighting on that first Caldwell catch.

[pats1]

If I didn't see Bryant's chest moving, I would have said he's dead.

[Box_O_Rocks]

I dunno, somehow I get the impression Caldwell is becoming a favorite option for Tommy.

[shakadave]

Gil Santos says Caldwell just caught a couple passes. Can anyone verify that that's really true this time?

[Rob0729]

Wow! They were checking Bryant's pulse. Not good at all.

[Ahriman]

If I didn't see Bryant's chest moving, I would have said he's dead.

Hope he's alright. Looked like the other Lions player came in and hit him after he had tackled Reche.

[pats1]

Gil Santos: Kennedy is on the ground...

5 minutes later: Gino: It's Fernando Bryant, not Kennedy.

Gil Santos: You sure? It's not #26?

Gino: No, #25.

Gil Santos: You sure?

[SVN]

maybe its just me but caldwell's ball security always scares me...everytime he catches the balll..i think 'protect the ball'

[shakadave]

After talking on and on for a couple minutes after the injury to "Kenoi Kennedy", Gil finally realized what nfl.com knew 3 minutes ago --- it wasn't Kennedy.

[Box_O_Rocks]

Okay Pats, time to settle down and get your heads in the game.

[Remix 6]

maybe its just me but caldwell's ball security always scares me...everytime he catches the balll..i think 'protect the ball'


he did have a fumbling problem in San Diego as i heard..he fumbled a lot :(

[Seymour93]

Earnie Sims spearing his own player. Remember this is the same guy who knocked out Ronnie Brown.

[gomezcat]

I dunno, somehow I get the impression Caldwell is becoming a favorite option for Tommy.

Some of the guys on here do great breakdowns of games. Check with them, they will know. :D

Can it be any coincidence that Tom is looking a better passer, now that he has a go-to guy?

[shakadave]

Gil Santos: Kennedy is on the ground...

5 minutes later: Gino: It's Fernando Bryant, not Kennedy.

Gil Santos: You sure? It's not #26?

Gino: No, #25.

Gil Santos: You sure?

Yes, this is a better account than I gave!

[Remix 6]

reche again!

[PaulNEPats]

Wow, Patrick Pass!

[Box_O_Rocks]

Patrick Pass!!!!!!!!!!!!! :woohoo:

[pats1]

Reche Caldwell! 3 catches for 58 yards so far.

Patrick Pass. Gotta love him. :D

[gomezcat]

Come on! Third catch for Reche. Trade him!

[shakadave]

Patrick Passssssssssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Finally I can gloat over my June prediction that he would make the roster this year.

[MrBigglesWorth]

good call...... you figure with such a power package they'd give better protection

[pats1]

4 catches for Reche.

[Ahriman]

These refs are clueless.

[pats1]

Reiss:

The Patriots announced that RB Laurence Maroney had the wind knocked out of him. His return is probable.

[pats1]

These refs are clueless.

It's Jeff Triplette and company.

All you need to know is Denver, January 2006.

[gomezcat]

Totally OT, but on the telly at the moment is a programme about Indian Lions, which Miss Gcat is watching whilst I am listening to Gil and co :D

[pats1]

Patrick Passssssssssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Finally I can gloat over my June prediction that he would make the roster this year.

Yes, that thread was CLASSIC:

http://208.109.107.176/new-england-patriots/messageboard/showthread.php?t=36057

[Box_O_Rocks]

Tommy got some decent protection before doing his patented juke.

[MrBigglesWorth]

not a sharp game so far, at least they ate up time on the drive

[pats1]

Reiss:

It was announced in the press box that Lions CB Fernando Bryant suffered a concussion. His return is doubtful.

[shmessy]

Reche!

Anyone see JoeSixPat today?

[Box_O_Rocks]

Time for some Gostkowski for Av angst.

[pats1]

he did have a fumbling problem in San Diego as i heard..he fumbled a lot :(

He fumbled 5 times in 4 years in San Diego. Give me a break.

[shakadave]

Tom: "Hey Reche, you wanna go outside and play catch?"
Reche: "Sure, let's go."

[pats1]

Now THIS is a DRIVE (although a TD would have been nice):

New England Patriots at 11:00

1-10-NE12(11:00) L.Maroney left end pushed ob at NE 20 for 8 yards (B.Bailey).
2-2-NE20(10:32) L.Maroney right end to NE 21 for 1 yard (P.Lenon).
3-1-NE21(9:55) L.Maroney right tackle to NE 24 for 3 yards (T.Holt, E.Sims).
1-10-NE24(9:13) T.Brady pass incomplete deep left to R.Caldwell.
2-10-NE24(9:07) C.Dillon right tackle to NE 25 for 1 yard (F.Bryant, E.Sims).
3-9-NE25(8:27) (Shotgun) T.Brady pass deep right to R.Caldwell to NE 46 for 21 yards (J.McGraw, K.Kennedy).
1-10-NE46(7:49) T.Brady pass deep right to R.Caldwell to DET 36 for 18 yards (F.Bryant, E.Sims). DET-F.Bryant was injured during the play. His return is Doubtful.1-10-DET36(7:29) PENALTY on NE-S.Neal, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at DET 36 - No Play.
1-15-DET41(7:10) T.Brady pass incomplete deep left to R.Caldwell.
2-15-DET41(7:03) T.Brady pass deep right to R.Caldwell to DET 22 for 19 yards (S.Wilson).
1-10-DET22(6:31) P.Pass right tackle to DET 18 for 4 yards (E.Sims, T.Holt).
2-6-DET18(5:51) T.Brady pass incomplete short right to B.Watson [C.Redding].
3-6-DET18(5:45) (Shotgun) T.Brady pass short right to R.Caldwell to DET 13 for 5 yards (S.Wilson). measurement
4-1-DET13(5:14) T.Brady up the middle to DET 11 for 2 yards (E.Sims).
1-10-DET11(4:42) C.Dillon right end to DET 7 for 4 yards (K.Kennedy).
PENALTY on NE-N.Kaczur, Offensive Holding, 10 yards, enforced at DET 11 - No Play.
1-20-DET21(4:18) (Shotgun) T.Brady pass short middle to D.Graham to DET 12 for 9 yards (E.Sims, B.Bailey).
2-11-DET12(3:43) (Shotgun) T.Brady scrambles left guard to DET 7 for 5 yards (E.Sims).
3-6-DET7(2:57) (Shotgun) T.Brady pass incomplete short right to R.Caldwell. DET-J.DeVries was injured during the play.
4-6-DET7 (2:51) S.Gostkowski 25 yard field goal is GOOD, Center-L.Paxton, Holder-K.Walter.

DET 0 NE 3, Plays: 16 Yards: 81 Possession: 8:03.

[kevinolean]

why are all Brady's throws coming up short? we've noticed the last four throws have been off the mark and the receivers have to try and catch the ball against the turf

[SVN]

caldwell getting in the game is a good sign but the fact that no other receiver seems to be doing much due to gameplan or getting open is a bit concerning....gabriel has become a lost player suddenly.

[pats1]

Down goes Kitna! Down goes Kitna!

[DefenseRules]

Ty Warren has become an absolute BEAST. :D

[shakadave]

Yes, that thread was CLASSIC:

http://208.109.107.176/new-england-patriots/messageboard/showthread.php?t=36057

You were right there with me at Post #2 on that thread. I bumped it!

[DefenseRules]

caldwell getting in the game is a good sign but the fact that no other receiver seems to be doing much due to gameplan or getting open is a bit concerning....gabriel has become a lost player suddenly.


I agree, that has been a little worrisome. :(

[Remix 6]

heeeeeeeeere come the LIONS!

[pats1]

Reiss:

The Patriots' first scoring drive was 17 plays and chewed up 8:13. That's the team's longest scoring drive of the season. The previous long was a 15-play march against the Dolphins on Oct. 8.

[VJCPatriot]

Who is this Fury guy and where is the holding call?

[pats1]

Who is this Fury guy and where is the holding call?

Mike Furrey. The Lions' #2 WR.

He played FS with the Rams last year, and WR with them before that.

[DefenseRules]

Come on D hold these guys down.

We need to slow that offense down.:(

[shmessy]

Yes, that thread was CLASSIC:

http://208.109.107.176/new-england-patriots/messageboard/showthread.php?t=36057

I'm feeling pretty good about my defense of PP in the second half of that thread.

[SVN]

no maroney on the sideline

http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/reiss_pieces/


No Maroney

RB Laurence Maroney, who was reported to have the wind knocked out of him, is not present on the Patriots' sideline. We'll continue to monitor that situation

[DefenseRules]

no maroney on the sideline

http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/reiss_pieces/

jeez, what happened to Maroney?:(

[pats1]

Are the Lions winning 7-3 or is it just my imagination?

[Remix 6]

....i think the lions just passed all over us that drive...

[VJCPatriot]

There's that Furrey guy again... What are the Pats doing??

[SVN]

time for the team to get its head out its a** and play this game....just too easy throwing the ball for the lions

[Ahriman]

Eh, not too concerned. If the Pats screw this next drive up, then i'll start to worry a bit.

[kevinolean]

he took a pretty good hit on the last play that he was in...

he got up sluggish and took himself out of the game...

i didnt think it looked that serious though

[VJCPatriot]

The Pats look like they were hung over from drinking too much last night or something. How can you sleepwalk against the Lions of all teams? Snap out of it!!

[vyrago]

Eh, not too concerned. If the Pats screw this next drive up, then i'll start to worry a bit.


I've got to leave in 10 minutes for an event at which I have to be out of touch with this game. Maybe I'm the lucky one? The Pats are playing like they have all day to get it in gear.

[Box_O_Rocks]

Faulk has had a couple nice returns today.

[pats1]

Reiss:

Lions WR Roy Williams has eclipsed the 1,000-yard mark on the season, becoming the first Detroit player to do so since Johnnie Morton in 2001.
Also, Lions DE Jared DeVries was injured on the Patriots' last possession. He appears to be OK on the sideline and should return to action.

[SVN]

look for lions to double or pay more attn to caldwellll...lets see what brady does now

[pats1]

I'm feeling pretty good about my defense of PP in the second half of that thread.

Same here. :D

[SVN]

bleeping holding.....what the @@$# are they doing ??

[PaulNEPats]

The OL sucks so far today

[SVN]

very rarely do the pats play a smooth game...sometimes they just play like jv teams for a quarter....that off series was pathetic add to that the holding call...big series for our D now

[Seymour93]

Jeff Triplette hates the Patriots.

[VJCPatriot]

Wow umm the way the Pats are playing they will be lucky to be down only 7-3 at the half. Is there nobody on the Pats sideline that is concerned about this game??

[BelichickFan]

If the Patriots thought Belichick was pissed this past week, I have a feeling they ain't seen nothing yet.

:mad:

[Box_O_Rocks]

I smell Triplette...

[PatsFaninAZ]

Turnover would be nice here.

[MoLewisrocks]

5 penalties in just over a quarter. Belichick has to be FUMING. And Brady took a hard hit earlier with two Lions lifting him up and driving him into the ground (but no sissy flags this week I guess) and now he's sacked.

Inconsistent execution. This team just doesn't get it. Belichick has been warning them for weeks now that you can't just show up, you have to practice and play like every game is the biggest challenge you have faced to date. Otherwise on any given Sunday bad things can happen.

Make that 6 for 45.

[PaulNEPats]

I hate Jeff Tripplette

[Box_O_Rocks]

That was a timely Triplette on Scott.

[MrBigglesWorth]

this is a disappointing showing by the patriots so far

[chunkypony]

Why have we gotten away from the run already? thats what isnt making sense to me right now...

[SVN]

how abt a 3rd down stop ..D ?

[kirjtc2]

Just throw a Lions jersey on Tripplette and get it over with.

[letekro]

Tedy Bruschi. The slowest LB in the NFL.

[oldskool138]

I hope the Pats wake up soon...

[mcbee]

IF the Pats lose to the Lions at home...same team that got crushed by the phins in detroit....well then that's just pathetic. They'll be derisively known as the patsies if they do that.

[MoLewisrocks]

this is a disappointing showing by the patriots so far

Just remember that when NEM gets back from the Vine whining about the OC. He's not on the field making costly mistakes and missing assignments.

[Ahriman]

^----Officially concerned

[PatsFaninAZ]

It's a little early for the panic button. Just need to get to the locker room with the game still close.

Let's hold here.

[carolinatony]

What time does the game start today? Can someone tell the Pats its on now

[oldskool138]

Wow just...Wow. I wish the secondary could tackle or cover...

[MrBigglesWorth]

Why have we gotten away from the run already? thats what isnt making sense to me right now...

No maroney and dillon ran but they had a holding penalty..... more imprtantly, where has reche gone and where's watson? do we have a recv'r oppposite reche?

[SVN]

so far martz is outcoaching BB and dean pees...our pass D has been exposed thoroughly....

[gomezcat]

It's a little early for the panic button. Just need to get to the locker room with the game still close.

Let's hold here.

Yeah, 7-3 is hardly time to start panicking.

[pats1]

Lethargic.

[pats1]

Mike Vrabel!!!!

(Just saved the Pats' ass right there)

[MrBigglesWorth]

lucky fumble, needed that

[PaulNEPats]

Fumble!!! thank god

[Box_O_Rocks]

Vrabel's magnetic paws, wheeeeee!

[SVN]

wow ..what a break for this D...

[MoLewisrocks]

Why have we gotten away from the run already? thats what isnt making sense to me right now...

We haven't really but Maroney is apparently still in the locker room after getting the wind knocked out of him. If Detroit scores here...

Thank's Vrabes.

[Seymour93]

Phew. Bailed out, lucky --------!

[Ahriman]

Martz is abusing Pees.

Fake edit: There's a break for the Pats. Big play.

[VJCPatriot]

Furrey has been killing us... Phew we got the turnover!!! HUGE play!

[oldskool138]

Lucky, lucky lucky. I hope this is a momentum shift...And where is Maroney? Is he hurt???

[Box_O_Rocks]

Hawkins with the stick! Sweet.

[PatsWickedPissah]

Dunno if folks have given up on the server but game's on.
Thx Vrabes for saving a 14-3 lead.
Offense, wake up. There's a game on.

[PatsFaninAZ]

The only defensive statistic that matters is scoring defense, in my opinion.

Yards, completion rate, whatever. Keep the points off the board.

(He says with pretend bravado.)

Nice break. Let's go 98 yards.

[mosi]

Crap, I just started following the game on the internet, what the heck is going on.

[SVN]

brady..got lucky not be picked off...

[gomezcat]

Time for five wideouts and then a QB sneak. That'll surprise 'em. :bricks:

[PatsFaninAZ]

Meanwhile, the Packers seem to be giving the Jets a pretty good game.

[Box_O_Rocks]

Tommy, what the devil are you up to?

[MrBigglesWorth]

lovw the announcers explaingin the flag

[chunkypony]

We haven't really but Maroney is apparently still in the locker room after getting the wind knocked out of him. If Detroit scores here...

O, watching the game on the internet. I didnt know maroney was out.

[mcbee]

Patriots being exposed as old and slow. Patchwork LB and secondary corps.

Just imagine what a SD or Colts would do to this poor downtrodden team.

Patriots, just like the patriots at Valley Forge (starving, barefoot in the snow) have our admiration and our pity.

[SVN]

thanks pass...

[oldskool138]

Anybody know what the penalty was? DARN IT!!!! Fumble-itis strikes again...

[MrBigglesWorth]

pass sucks

[PaulNEPats]

Unbelievable, did pass pull a hammy?

[PatsWickedPissah]

Nice carry, Pass

[MoLewisrocks]

OK though cause we got a penalty 1st down while Fox was busy babbling.....................................

Oh, Patrick Pass fan club, you there?????????????

[MrBigglesWorth]

they are not a sharp team this year. way too many ints and fumbles

[Seymour93]

Go back to the PUP Paddy!

[SVN]

this game has been embarassing so far...

[Box_O_Rocks]

Shakadave and his bad Pass karma - dammit!

[PatsFaninAZ]

What is our turnover rate on drives after we get a defensive turnover? Seems like we're always giving the ball right back.

[MrBigglesWorth]

that would ahve been a flag in the end zone last week

[oldskool138]

how abt a 3rd down stop ..D ?

this game has been embarassing so far...

BIG TIME!!!

[mcbee]

Pass in doghouse now. Won't have to worry about seeing his worthless self for the rest of the season. THE SHAME!!!

[gomezcat]

Go back to the PUP Paddy!

You have a PM.

[Ahriman]

I love the smell of fumblitis in the morning.

What a joke. It's amazing how the entire team just falls to pieces when things are't going well this season.

[shmessy]

OK though cause we got a penalty 1st down while Fox was busy babbling.....................................

Oh, Patrick Pass fan club, you there?????????????

Yes, we're here. Maroney, Dillon, Watson and Caldwell all fumbled last week. Wanna ship them off too?

[oldskool138]

Pass has a history of bad ball protection. Not a good quality for a FB

[Box_O_Rocks]

Nice replay Fox, Asante dun good.

[Remix 6]

Yes, we're here. Maroney, Dillon, Watson and Caldwell all fumbled last week. Wanna ship them off too?

ship the OL while were at it..penalties and we let Brady get sacked! OH NO!!!

[Mike the Brit]

Warren and Caldwell excepted, it has been poor. If you've got to play Jeff Triplette as well, you've got to bring your best game ...

Words fail me for the Pass fumble. Wasn't he watching last week?

[VJCPatriot]

WTF are they doing? They dodged another dagger by holding the lions to a figgie. What happened to the ball security drills??

[PatsFaninAZ]

Ok, all in all, not so bad. A team gets you down inside your two yard line and the net result is only 3 points, you can live with it.

Let's not let them get the ball back this half.

[PatsMyBoyz!]

Anybody know what the penalty was? DARN IT!!!! Fumble-itis strikes again...

6? Here we go again Hawkins made a beautiful play,Vrabel hogs it for the turnover,and 3 secs later we give it right back.

[chunkypony]

Ok, we can tie it up here if we pull our heads out of our asses for the next three minutes.

Lets see some good run/pass mixture here. dont stay on one thing too long.

[Mike the Brit]

Anyone else see uncalled holds on the long Detroit drive?

[oldskool138]

WTF are they doing? They dodged another dagger by holding the lions to a figgie. What happened to the ball security drills??

Out the fricken window apparently...The Pats are sleepwalking.

[PatsFaninAZ]

Big return here would be nice.

[SVN]

our offense isnt the same without maroney...dillon is good but they are missing maroney...and our wide receivers catching up to brady...we need to reserve judgement on that...no one other than caldwell so far....

[SVN]

the reverse..mcdaniels had to call that once agame...

[The Gr8est]

Anyone else see uncalled holds on the long Detroit drive?

The hasn't been any "re-emphasis" on offensive holding. Napolian doesn't mind THAT.

[Seymour93]

Whenever the team is sucking like today, give it to someone who cares like Troy.

[Chris]

troy almost fumbled too..

[PatsFaninAZ]

We're a better team with better coaching and better players, playing in our park.

Let's keep it no worse than seven (or get some points here) and things will be fine.

[mcbee]

I hope they get BOOED as they leave the field.

BOO...BOOOO HISSS BOOO HISSS FOR THE PUTRID PATRIOTS. PATHETIC PUTRID PATRIOTS!!

[VJCPatriot]

Huge catch. Was that Jabar Gaffeney? wow!

I hope they get BOOED as they leave the field.

BOO...BOOOO HISSS BOOO HISSS FOR THE PUTRID PATRIOTS. PATHETIC PUTRID PATRIOTS!!

I Hope they tie it up 10-10 at the half although they haven't played like they deserve to be tied.

[MoLewisrocks]

That was all Brady. This line is schitzophrenic. He's been whacked a half dozen times already today and I have a feeling field turf is a tad less forgiving on the back...

[oldskool138]

I hope they get BOOED as they leave the field.

BOO...BOOOO HISSS BOOO HISSS FOR THE PUTRID PATRIOTS. PATHETIC PUTRID PATRIOTS!!

Boo the Pats...That's a cardinal sin on these boards :rolleyes:

Yeah, they need to be booed. BB is gonna destroy them in the locker room especially if they don't score a TD on this drive

[Ahriman]

Tie it up now and then run these bums off the field in the 2nd half. This is a joke.

[MoLewisrocks]

troy almost fumbled too..

No he did not, and there is no such thing as almost fumbling. He got what he could and secured the ball with both hands as he was going down.

[kptmorgan04]

I really wish we could listen in to the half time talks... would be one of the most interesting things about a game that we never really get to see or hear

[PatsWickedPissah]

Ah, I wondered what happend to the game thread.
Nice job Pass.

[Amanichai]

Let's go easy on'em

Sure we are getting frustrated but booing our team is uncalled for. Considering all the changes that they have gone through this year they are not doing that bad that just have to focus on ball control

[The Gr8est]

Peyton gets picked by Tennessee. Keith Bullock.

[PatsFaninAZ]

Seven points here would be great. But three is all we need. Let's just not let them get the ball back and get in the locker room.

I think it's going to be a very different second half.

[Remix 6]

oh hey ben Watson. how you doin

[oldskool138]

TD CORY DILLON...Woot!!!

[Mike the Brit]

Now THAt is a touchdown run!

[VJCPatriot]

Have I mentioned that Watson is a stud? :) I think I already have but just to be sure.

TOUCHDOWN Dil-LOOOON!!!!!

[PatsWickedPissah]

Please go for 2
I need it for the pool

[Amanichai]

Let's go easy on'em

Sure we are getting frustrated but booing our team is uncalled for. Considering all the changes that they have gone through this year they are not doing that bad that just have to focus on ball control

You see what I mean???

[MoLewisrocks]

I hope they get BOOED as they leave the field.

BOO...BOOOO HISSS BOOO HISSS FOR THE PUTRID PATRIOTS. PATHETIC PUTRID PATRIOTS!!

That's a really pathetic thing to hope for.

[PatsFaninAZ]

You know, if you go back on your tivo to right after the Pass fumble and listen very carefully, I bet you'll hear an alarm clock.

Because it looks like some folks woke up.

[The Gr8est]

17 seconds, Tennessee on Indy's 20 yd line.

[Amanichai]

I think it's time for the Jets to bring out the secondary...

[The Gr8est]

TD Tennessee!

[shmessy]

Boy, are we lucky to be tied at the half.

Here's to the crowd and the coaching staff to read them the riot act.

I don't have the TV game down here, but my dad tells me the O-Line has been absolutely pathetic today.

[kolbitr]

Please, no long lame pass interference calls this half!

[PatsWickedPissah]

Time for the Pats D to show some sack, so to speak

[oldskool138]

The Dandy Lions might almost be in FG range...

[The Gr8est]

Pierre Woods is active, good! He needs some PT so we can see if he can help us.

[DaBruinz]

Did BB leave a flaming back of dog poo on Tripplette's door or something? I am all for calling the holds on the Patriots, if they are actually holds, but you damn well need to be calling it on the Lions. The Lions scoring drive should have been dead on the water due to Colvin being held. What happened? NOTHING CALLED.

Its BS and Tripplette's staff should be ashamed of themselves.

[pats1]

ASANTE SAMUEL!

Leads the NFL with SEVEN INTs!

[oldskool138]

PICK!!!! Good thing Asante is in a contract year...

[carolinatony]

What's up with Maroney?
Did he get Hurt? The game is not on here in Charlotte

[Mike the Brit]

OHMYGOODNESS! Asante's price just went up another $500,000!!!!

[Ahriman]

Asante Samuel laughs at your route running, Detroit.

[Remix 6]

i wish we would resign Samuel like..at half time

uhoh..were NOT taking a knee!

[pats1]

Reiss:

RB Corey Dillon's second-quarter rushing TD is his 34th since joining the Patriots prior to the 2004 season. Counting today, Dillon has played in 39 regular-season games for the Patriots. The team is 31-7 in games in which he's played and 1-4 in games he hasn't.

[oldskool138]

OHMYGOODNESS! Asante's price just went up another $500,000!!!!

Yep...All day

[kolbitr]

The Dandy Lions might almost be in FG range...


Not anymore...:)

Asante Samuel making a great contract run!

[hobbsownscoles]

whats the most interceptions someone on the pats has had in a single season?

[DaBruinz]

Nice INT by Samuel. I guess that makes up for blowing the coverage on the Detroit TD.

[pats1]

What's up with Maroney?
Did he get Hurt? The game is not on here in Charlotte

Reiss:


The Patriots announced that RB Laurence Maroney had the wind knocked out of him. His return is probable.

Posted By: mreiss | Time: 01:26:59 PM


RB Laurence Maroney, who was reported to have the wind knocked out of him, is not present on the Patriots' sideline. We'll continue to monitor that situation.

Posted By: mreiss | Time: 01:42:39 PM

[The Gr8est]

Asante Samuel laughs are your route running, Detroit.

Asante Samuel farts in your general direction.

[Remix 6]

Caldwell 91 yards on 5 catches! 100 here he comes

[PatsFaninAZ]

whats the most interceptions someone on the pats has had in a single season?

How's this for some trivia: Ron Hall, with 11.

[MrBigglesWorth]

I've been saying matt light is not that good

[Ahriman]

Matt Light is going to get Tom Brady killed one of these days.

[oldskool138]

Hey Doug Gabe...How you been?

[Remix 6]

heyyyyyyy DOUG!

[DaBruinz]

whats the most interceptions someone on the pats has had in a single season?

I believe it was 9 by Ty Law back in 1998

[MrBigglesWorth]

the pats players need to be more mentally alert and pounce on that potential fumble by brady

[5 Rings for Brady!!]

We need a stud left tackle in the draft.

[carolinatony]

What happened?
The game is not on TV here

[MoLewisrocks]

This line is going to get Brady killed one of these days...

Gabriel rejoins the living. Brady was pissed at whoever called that last TO. He wanted time for the TD in under a minute. Crap, well at least we'll get the FG.

Brady gimpy now.

[Box_O_Rocks]

I feel great anxiety.

[skri65]

I am missing Maroney...

[Ahriman]

It's a lead. I'll take it, I suppose?

[DaBruinz]

We need a stud left tackle in the draft.

Unlikely to happen. Not with Light, Kaczur, O'Callaghan under contract until 2009.

[MoLewisrocks]

heyyyyyyy DOUG!

LOL After that collision with the goal post he's probably either assimilated the entire offense or out for the second half. :eek:

[VJCPatriot]

We're up 3 at the half but we were outplayed for most of it. Pats came up with some big plays to bail themselves out of a jam. I think they will be awake for the 2nd half. They are going to get an earful in the lockerroom and I think they need it!

[PatsFaninAZ]

We were staring right down the barrel of 14-3 at the half, and it turned out 13-10. I'll take it.

It's the NFL, anyone can beat anyone. Just gotta be one point better and play for next week.

[pats1]

We need a stud left tackle in the draft.

Great. Then the Pats would have a backup LT signed through 2010 who's making $3.5 mil. this season...

[carolinatony]

So was Maroney carried off the field?

[wcda]

The game is not on here but I do have it on internet radio
http://www.us103.com/DetroitLions.htm

[The Gr8est]

Vinatieri misses a last second FG.

[5 Rings for Brady!!]

Unlikely to happen. Not with Light, Kaczur, O'Callaghan under contract until 2009.

Yeah, I forgot. Brady takes less money so he can stay where they put the best team around him. First class WRs, first class protection. :rolleyes:

[MoLewisrocks]

Unlikely to happen. Not with Light, Kaczur, O'Callaghan under contract until 2009.

We could always trade Light for a sack of really well rubbed up balls...j/k sort of....

He is just getting handed his lunch today, and Brady is paying the price.

[pats1]

So was Maroney carried off the field?

What?!?

He got the wind knocked out of him.

[Seymour93]

Man those Packers are sorry.

[5 Rings for Brady!!]

Great. Then the Pats would have a backup LT signed through 2010 who's making $3.5 mil. this season...

Matt Light can compete for right tackle. If you want to ignore the way he has played since he was drafted, be my guest.

This is his worst season, but he has always been a one trick pony, and much better qualified for right tackle.

[pats1]

Reiss:

Analysis from the first half of the Patriots-Lions game, with the Patriots leading 13-10:

Uninspiring football. Not much to like here from a Patriots perspective, other than a late second-quarter touchdown drive to tie the game at 10, and another interception by CB Asante Samuel.

Six penalties and one Patrick Pass lost fumble highlight the long list of poor play. Four of the penalties were holding, and one -– a neutral zone infraction by rookie linebacker Corey Mays on a punt -– was essentially a turnover because it gave the ball back to the Lions. Furthermore, the Patriots’ offensive line is not holding up consistently at the point of attack, which each lineman having at least one significant breakdown.

A key part of the game has been the Patriots’ lack of success in the red zone, which has been a strong point this season.

Overall, the team played down to the level of its competition, the 2-9 Lions.

The Lions get the ball to start the second half.

[The Gr8est]

This line is going to get Brady killed one of these days...

Brady gimpy now.

Can't see the game, please amplify on "gimpy".

[PatsMyBoyz!]

That was an important FG-Good for Ski!

Well despite it all we're leading! Some real good stuff and some real sloppy stuff-AGAIN-which surprises me;usually they correct,especially after having been ripped a new one by BB after the Bears game for the very same thing.

[pats1]

Matt Light can compete for right tackle. If you want to ignore the way he has played since he was drafted, be my guest.

This is his worst season, but he has always been a one trick pony, and much better qualified for right tackle.

With Kaczur, O'Callaghan, and Britt?

Are you kidding me?

They have enough tackles. And guards. And centers. 5 of them are draft picks.

There are other needs in the draft. Light has been FINE all season long. Let him be, for chrissakes.

[VJCPatriot]

Great. Then the Pats would have a backup LT signed through 2010 who's making $3.5 mil. this season...

Well if we got a Mckinnie or Pace quality LT I think the Pats would move Light to RT to get the best 5 men on the field. If the new guy is an upgrade over Light I think you need to go for it. Then again we might be drafting another WR in the 2nd round. It's almost like a tradition for BB now, well that along with the annual 1st day tight end pick. :P

[pats1]

Can't see the game, please amplify on "gimpy".

Gimpy as in J.C. Pearson trying to say Brady strained a hamstring on his scramble near the end of the half. That's bull****. Brady looked fine walking off the field.

[5 Rings for Brady!!]

Can't see the game, please amplify on "gimpy".

Gimpy means that as usual our franchise QB is getting killed out there. Like every year in his career except 2001.

But hell, we got Vinnie so why worry about such things as left tackle.

[mcbee]

They need to be ruthless. Light sucks. Cut him or cut his pay, his choice.

They need to draft or sign a FA for big money, if there are any. HE sucks though.