Grogan thinks Jews are stupid as well, their God a baby killer

[3 to be 4]

I actually care deeply about Jews, unnlike your Ghastly God, who allowed such a horrible ghaslty thing as the Holocaust to occur.

What is so great about the 10 commandments anyway? The last 6 are basic moral beliefs and the first 4 are basically bow down to me, the arrogant war God commandments.

You hick.

This man cares deeply about Jews, despite the fact that they are "stupid", their God "is a baby killer", and "what is so great about the 10 commandments anyway. Most of his posts rip the God of the Old Testament, and he continue calls the God of Abraham a baby killer.
I, personally, couldnt care less about the ridicule towards myself, im used to it, I just find it surprising that not only is ok apparently for Christians to be mocked and ridiculed, but its fine to go after Jews too.
hey, its your guys board too, if you dont mind.......

[3 to be 4]

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/showthread.php?t=43873

this is the God of Abraham he is talking about in these posts, the Jewish God.

some people, however, hate the idea of Jesus so much they'll sell their own God down the river by tolerating this hater.

Not me, im not standing by silent. By his tone, it is clear this is more than about just "tweaking" 3 to be 4, and if this is tolerated, than you folks deserve it.

[grogan2767]

Funny, I'm not talking about anything. That's the Bible you are accusing!

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/showthread.php?t=43873

this is the God of Abraham he is talking about in these posts, the Jewish God.

some people, however, hate the idea of Jesus so much they'll sell their own God down the river by tolerating this hater.

Not me, im not standing by silent. By his tone, it is clear this is more than about just "tweaking" 3 to be 4, and if this is tolerated, than you folks deserve it.

[grogan2767]

News flash for you novice. They ARE the same God according to your faith.

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/showthread.php?t=43873

this is the God of Abraham he is talking about in these posts, the Jewish God.

some people, however, hate the idea of Jesus so much they'll sell their own God down the river by tolerating this hater.

Not me, im not standing by silent. By his tone, it is clear this is more than about just "tweaking" 3 to be 4, and if this is tolerated, than you folks deserve it.

[3 to be 4]

News flash for you novice. They ARE the same God according to your faith.

news flash for you, The Father, is the same God Jews believe in, or did it take you 22 years to read that? The Torah and the first book of the Bible are the same thing, you fake.

When you go after the God of the Old Testament, especially the earliest Books, you are going after the God of Abraham, the God of Moses, the God of the Jew.

You came in late to this so you might not know, I am a Jew who came to believe that Jesus is the Messiah. So when you attack the Jewish God, I take it just as strongly as when you go after Jesus.

I notice most of your attacks arent on Jesus, its on the "Baby killer" of the Torah. Im on to you, buddy. There can only be 2 things going on here. You are either just a Christian hater, which would make sense if you were going after Jesus and the New Testament. Or you think Christians, Jews ,and Muslims are all stupid and their God a baby killer. It cant be anything else. And i dont take too much stock in any supposed Jewish apologists you might have here, who, as I said, hate the idea of Jesus so much they'll sell their own God down the river. Any Jew who is not offended by the portrayal of the God of the Torah being called a baby killer is not in any way practicing their Faith, and I dont care who gets ticked off by that.
Im taking a stand for God!

this is about more than Jesus, what you are doing is attacking the Father, and if Jews arent going to get up in arms over that, then I really dont know what their faith is for.

You are a hater, patronizing comments about caring for Jews aside,and its not going to go on without a challenge.

I may have offended by asking other Jews to consider Jesus as their Messiah.
You call the God of the Jewish people a baby killer and non-existant.

I am right and i couldnt care less if i get banned.

[3 to be 4]

Funny, I'm not talking about anything. That's the Bible you are accusing!


No, the Bible didnt call people who believe in God, "stupid"
YOU DID
the Bible doesnt refer to God as "baby killer"
YOU DID

[grogan2767]

you wrote>>The Torah and the first book of the Bible are the same thing, you fake.

Wrong. The Torah is ALL the first FIVE books of the Bible. You rookie.

[grogan2767]

>>I notice most of your attacks arent on Jesus, its on the "Baby killer" of the Torah.

You are so ignorant of the Bible. ALL the verses I quote are front the Phrophets, EXCEPT one which I think was Numbers. Those are not the Torah.

You need some schooling.

news flash for you, The Father, is the same God Jews believe in, or did it take you 22 years to read that? The Torah and the first book of the Bible are the same thing, you fake.

When you go after the God of the Old Testament, especially the earliest Books, you are going after the God of Abraham, the God of Moses, the God of the Jew.

You came in late to this so you might not know, I am a Jew who came to believe that Jesus is the Messiah. So when you attack the Jewish God, I take it just as strongly as when you go after Jesus.

I notice most of your attacks arent on Jesus, its on the "Baby killer" of the Torah. Im on to you, buddy. There can only be 2 things going on here. You are either just a Christian hater, which would make sense if you were going after Jesus and the New Testament. Or you think Christians, Jews ,and Muslims are all stupid and their God a baby killer. It cant be anything else. And i dont take too much stock in any supposed Jewish apologists you might have here, who, as I said, hate the idea of Jesus so much they'll sell their own God down the river. Any Jew who is not offended by the portrayal of the God of the Torah being called a baby killer is not in any way practicing their Faith, and I dont care who gets ticked off by that.
Im taking a stand for God!

this is about more than Jesus, what you are doing is attacking the Father, and if Jews arent going to get up in arms over that, then I really dont know what their faith is for.

You are a hater, patronizing comments about caring for Jews aside,and its not going to go on without a challenge.

I may have offended by asking other Jews to consider Jesus as their Messiah.
You call the God of the Jewish people a baby killer and non-existant.

I am right and i couldnt care less if i get banned.

[grogan2767]

>the Bible doesnt refer to God as "baby killer"

Did he not drown the entire world? Were there not babies living at that time? How abou the conquest of Canaan were He instructs the Israelites to kill all including the infants and sucklings?

How's year 2?

No, the Bible didnt call people who believe in God, "stupid"
YOU DID
the Bible doesnt refer to God as "baby killer"
YOU DID

[3 to be 4]

you wrote>>The Torah and the first book of the Bible are the same thing, you fake.

Wrong. The Torah is ALL the first FIVE books of the Bible. You rookie.

excuse me, i was typing fast and i made an error.

you, on the other hand, are a Christian and Jew hater. probably Muslim too

[3 to be 4]

>>I notice most of your attacks arent on Jesus, its on the "Baby killer" of the Torah.

You are so ignorant of the Bible. ALL the verses I quote are front the Phrophets, EXCEPT one which I think was Numbers. Those are not the Torah.

You need some schooling.

You said "Go all the way back to Genesis, and you included one from Dueteronomy at the very least. And everything else was from the Old Testament.

You want to keep going, Jew and Christian hater?

[grogan2767]

So you hate Muslims.

No, I am exactly who I said I am. I don't hate Jews or CHristians. I tryo to help them Come out of the Cult.

You believe Jews and MUslims are going to Hell! I don't! Because its dumb.

excuse me, i was typing fast and i made an error.

you, on the other hand, are a Christian and Jew hater. probably Muslim too

[grogan2767]

First of all , I think you are the hater. I don't hate anyone. You have false Christian love bombing in you. Meanwhile, you are like "Believe what I do, or go to Hell forvere. Even though there is no evidense.


You said "Go all the way back to Genesis, and you included one from Dueteronomy at the very least. And everything else was from the Old Testament.

You want to keep going, Jew and Christian hater?

[3 to be 4]

So you hate Muslims.

No, I am exactly who I said I am. I don't hate Jews or CHristians. I tryo to help them Come out of the Cult.

You believe Jews and MUslims are going to Hell! I don't! Because its dumb.


its dumb. now, who sounds like a teenager?

You said all those who believe in the God of Genesis and after are stupid and that God is a baby killer.

so all Jews, Christian, Muslims, anyone who believes in God are stupid and follow an awful, murdering God

You think Jews are stupid. You think Muslims are stupid, and you tear into the God of the Book that all 3 of religions follow.

You couldnt hack Christianity, so you boo-hoo'd to your wife and kids and ran away, and to make yourself out to be bigger, you pick on everybody else because some bad things probably happened to you. What? you lost a job or something?

[grogan2767]

You don't seem to understand. Most poeple do believe in God in America. BUT most are NOT FUNDAMENTALISTS that believe the Bible to be the innerrant inffalible Word of God. It is a tiny minority of crazy fundies like you, who think the Bible is literally true, that Genesis happened literlly in history, etc. Also, very few embrace the idea that all people who do not believe in Jesus Christ go to Hell. That is dumb, yes. So are you.

Did Noah take the Dinosaurs on the Ark?

its dumb. now, who sounds like a teenager?

You said all those who believe in the God of Genesis and after are stupid and that God is a baby killer.

so all Jews, Christian, Muslims, anyone who believes in God are stupid and follow an awful, murdering God

You think Jews are stupid. You think Muslims are stupid, and you tear into the God of the Book that all 3 of religions follow.

You couldnt hack Christianity, so you boo-hoo'd to your wife and kids and ran away, and to make yourself out to be bigger, you pick on everybody else because some bad things probably happened to you. What? you lost a job or something?

[3 to be 4]

You don't seem to understand. Most poeple do believe in God in America. BUT most are NOT FUNDAMENTALISTS that believe the Bible to be the innerrant inffalible Word of God. It is a tiny minority of crazy fundies like you, who think the Bible is literally true, that Genesis happened literlly in history, etc. Also, very few embrace the idea that all people who do not believe in Jesus Christ go to Hell. That is dumb, yes. So are you.

Did Noah take the Dinosaurs on the Ark?

Jews dont believe in the Torah? Christians dont believe in the Bible?

again, you call me dumb. You call Jews who believe in the God of scripture stupid. does that make you a good person?

You treat people horribly. Do your kids know you call people stupid for believing in God? You tell them that when they die they just rot in a coffin?
wonderful.

[grogan2767]

The Bible is false.

However, Jews don't think I'm going to Hell. (or everybody that doesn't think like them)

Primarily only Christians (and all variants) and Muslims teach that all go to Hell unless converted. The Quran is false. And the Bible is false. So in both cases it is a lie. The lie hurts people. It is definatetly hurting you.

Jews dont believe in the Torah? Christians dont believe in the Bible?

again, you call me dumb. You call Jews who believe in the God of scripture stupid. does that make you a good person?

You treat people horribly. Do your kids know you call people stupid for believing in God? You tell them that when they die they just rot in a coffin?
wonderful.

[3 to be 4]

First of all , I think you are the hater. I don't hate anyone. You have false Christian love bombing in you. Meanwhile, you are like "Believe what I do, or go to Hell forvere. Even though there is no evidense.

Im not getting on a discussion board and calling everyone who believes in God names. And I do not have the power to send anyone anywhere nor wish it so.

You are spreading hatred of Jews, Christians, and Muslims with your portrayal of them all as stupid.

[3 to be 4]

The Bible is false.

However, Jews don't think I'm going to Hell. (or everybody that doesn't think like them)

Primarily only Christians (and all variants) and Muslims teach that all go to Hell unless converted. The Quran is false. And the Bible is false. So in both cases it is a lie. The lie hurts people. It is definatetly hurting you.


But the God that Jews believe in is a "baby killer" according to you. dont try sucking up to the Jews now. You didnt go after the New Testament did you?
every Bible verse you brought up to slam God came from scripture widely read by God believing Jews.

You are a Jew hater

[3 to be 4]

But the God that Jews believe in is a "baby killer" according to you. dont try sucking up to the Jews now. You didnt go after the New Testament did you?
every Bible verse you brought up to slam God came from scripture widely read by God believing Jews.

You are a Jew hater


in any case, its one or the other Grogan. if by some chance, which isnt really possible, since you defamed the God of Abraham, you dont hate Jews, then, at the very least, by your posts, you hate Christians

so you are a hater and a bigot.

[grogan2767]

I don't hate Jews you idiot.

You do, by betraying them to believe In Jesus Christ. You blaspheme the Jews!

in any case, its one or the other Grogan. if by some chance, which isnt really possible, since you defamed the God of Abraham, you dont hate Jews, then, at the very least, by your posts, you hate Christians

so you are a hater and a bigot.

[grogan2767]

It's funny. YOU are the one who bleieves the damb book! You act so offended by the material, but the material is the Bible! LOL

Also, The New Test (which I can school you on if you like, since you don't know it very well) is even worse really. That is where Hell comes from. Hell is the most ghastly lie ever foisted on the human race.

in any case, its one or the other Grogan. if by some chance, which isnt really possible, since you defamed the God of Abraham, you dont hate Jews, then, at the very least, by your posts, you hate Christians

so you are a hater and a bigot.

[3 to be 4]

I don't hate Jews you idiot.

You do, by betraying them to believe In Jesus Christ. You blaspheme the Jews!


haha. You call the God of the Jews a baby killer and that God doesnt exist and people who believe in Him as stupid, thus Jews are stupid.

[3 to be 4]

It's funny. YOU are the one who bleieves the damb book! You act so offended by the material, but the material is the Bible! LOL

Also, The New Test (which I can school you on if you like, since you don't know it very well) is even worse really. That is where Hell comes from. Hell is the most ghastly lie ever foisted on the human race.

Wrong, liar. I never reacted to the material. I reacted to you calling God a baby killer.

please, your school of Hating I do not need, thank you, all the same.

a liar, and a Jew, Muslim ,and Christian hater. not good for the resume.

[grogan2767]

Dude, you can call me a liar. But it is the material that you are offended by. You should be offended, it is offensive.

Wrong, liar. I never reacted to the material. I reacted to you calling God a baby killer.

please, your school of Hating I do not need, thank you, all the same.

a liar, and a Jew, Muslim ,and Christian hater. not good for the resume.

[3 to be 4]

Dude, you can call me a liar. But it is the material that you are offended by. You should be offended, it is offensive.

dont be so obnoxious as to tell me what i am or am not offended by. I am not offended by the Word of God. I am offended at you calling the God of Abraham, the God of David, the God of Moses, a baby killer.

[grogan2767]

The material offends you and it should.

dont be so obnoxious as to tell me what i am or am not offended by. I am not offended by the Word of God. I am offended at you calling the God of Abraham, the God of David, the God of Moses, a baby killer.

[3 to be 4]

The material offends you and it should.

im glad its gotten more civil and intelligent :rolleyes:

[3 to be 4]

The material offends you and it should.

the Word of God is not offensive.

You, calling the God of the Jews a baby killer, are.

[grogan2767]

Why do you keep calling him the "God of the Jews" anyway. Theologically it is the same being as the Father/Son/Holy Spirit. (In myth) You can't "exonerate" Jesus from Yaweh's actions. You can't exonerate the Father from Yaweh's actions. Plus the God the of the NT is pretty mean too. (Killing the husband and wife for withholding some of their offering in Acts, Hell, Lake of Fire, all the fire, weeping an gnashing of teeth, etc. He's nasty)


the Word of God is not offensive.

You, calling the God of the Jews a baby killer, are.

[3 to be 4]

Why do you keep calling him the "God of the Jews" anyway. Theologically it is the same being as the Father/Son/Holy Spirit. (In myth) You can't "exonerate" Jesus from Yaweh's actions. You can't exonerate the Father from Yaweh's actions. Plus the God the of the NT is pretty mean too. (Killing the husband and wife for withholding some of their offering in Acts, Hell, Lake of Fire, all the fire, weeping an gnashing of teeth, etc. He's nasty)


because you were falsely making it seem that you were only going after "fundy's" like me. But by using verses that Jews read and worship in the Torah, it needs to be made clear that you are also going after the God that Jews believe in.

again, if God has his reasons for doing things the way He does them, does He not exist because its not "my way"?

Go ahead, trash God, but dont make yourself out to be a guy just going after the "crazy Christian". You are trashing the God that Jews believe in.

You should have kept your examples to the New Testament and Jesus. You might have gotten away with your lie and only been accused of being an anti-Christian.

[grogan2767]

You are heartless monster if you think that stuff is worthy of worship. You are a dubious human being indeed.

Trust me, you would have to be one sick son of a ***** to "worship" those versus. Trust me, NO church or Temple ever brings out Leviticus Chapter 20 for a reading, you sickk son of a *****. You can't defend it!!! Murder!!!!!

because you were falsely making it seem that you were only going after "fundy's" like me. But by using verses that Jews read and worship in the Torah, it needs to be made clear that you are also going after the God that Jews believe in.

again, if God has his reasons for doing things the way He does them, does He not exist because its not "my way"?

Go ahead, trash God, but dont make yourself out to be a guy just going after the "crazy Christian". You are trashing the God that Jews believe in.

You should have kept your examples to the New Testament and Jesus. You might have gotten away with your lie and only been accused of being an anti-Christian.

[3 to be 4]

You are heartless monster if you think that stuff is worthy of worship. You are a dubious human being indeed.

Trust me, you would have to be one sick son of a ***** to "worship" those versus. Trust me, NO church or Temple ever brings out Leviticus Chapter 20 for a reading, you sickk son of a *****. You can't defend it!!! Murder!!!!!


there you have it folks, Jews, according to Grogan, have to be "sick son of a ***** to "worship" those versus. From the Torah,

the Torah, that is sacred to Jews

Grogan has just called Jews sick sons of a *****

[grogan2767]

Dude, the "folks" are going to agree with me. what do you think this board is? It is not a jack ass fundy Bible board, you dumb ****.

there you have it folks, Jews, according to Grogan, have to be "sick son of a ***** to "worship" those versus. From the Torah,

the Torah, that is sacred to Jews

Grogan has just called Jews sick sons of a *****

[3 to be 4]

Dude, the "folks" are going to agree with me. what do you think this board is? It is not a jack ass fundy Bible board, you dumb ****.

im not concerned with a popularity contest, Grogan. Im drawing out the truth about you. I'll let the "folks" make up their own mind, but im going to take you and your hate on.
I'm standing up for God and if I become the bad guy here I really couldnt care less.

[grogan2767]

Dude, in case you have not noticed, I've whipped your sorry ass in this little duel we've had, just in case you weren't aware. You look like an idiot, and you are one. You been schooled.

Come on out.

im not concerned with a popularity contest, Grogan. Im drawing out the truth about you. I'll let the "folks" make up their own mind, but im going to take you and your hate on.
I'm standing up for God and if I become the bad guy here I really couldnt care less.

[3 to be 4]

by the way, if they agree with you, that Jews are sick S.O.B.'s, than you're calling them anti-semitic. I dont believe thats the case, do you?

[grogan2767]

Dude, in case you have not noticed, I've whipped your sorry ass in this little duel we've had, just in case you weren't aware. You look like an idiot, and you are one. You been schooled.

Come on out.

by the way, if they agree with you, that Jews are sick S.O.B.'s, than you're calling them anti-semitic. I dont believe thats the case, do you?

[3 to be 4]

Dude, in case you have not noticed, I've whipped your sorry ass in this little duel we've had, just in case you weren't aware. You look like an idiot, and you are one. You been schooled.

Come on out.


really??? baby is losing, so he's declaring victory.

lets see, tonight we established that you think Jews and Catholics are stupid, as well, as Evangelical Christians, and, oh yes, Muslims.

How was I schooled by you, you skinhead?

[grogan2767]

Your low IQ keeps helping you miss the point. They DON"T read those scriptures in Temple or Church. If they did NOONE would come. You dumb ******* Fundy!

However, I'm glad you don;t think Catholics go to Hell. That's the first thing you said that doesn't make me want to puke.

by the way, if they agree with you, that Jews are sick S.O.B.'s, than you're calling them anti-semitic. I dont believe thats the case, do you?

[3 to be 4]

Dude, in case you have not noticed, I've whipped your sorry ass in this little duel we've had, just in case you weren't aware. You look like an idiot, and you are one. You been schooled.

Come on out.


you panicked so much you posted the same post twice,

how about it Grogan, are Catholics stupid?

you're just a cowardly bigot.

Dont go after the Word of God, the Torah, and bring nothing to the table.

[grogan2767]

3 to 4 praying to his lord

"Father, thank you for teaching the Israelites to stone the children. Oh we honor and praise you for teaching them to stone those awful disobedient children. I'm sorry Father we can't stone our own anymore. This bastard secular western society won't let us burn heretics at the stake anymore, even though Biblically it would be fine. Oh Lord, I praise you drowing all the children"

really??? baby is losing, so he's declaring victory.

lets see, tonight we established that you think Jews and Catholics are stupid, as well, as Evangelical Christians, and, oh yes, Muslims.

How was I schooled by you, you skinhead?

[3 to be 4]

3 to 4 praying to his lord

"Father, thank you for teaching the Israelites to stone the children. Oh we honor and praise you for teaching them to stone those awful disobedient children. I'm sorry Father we can't stone our own anymore. This bastard secular western society won't let us burn heretics at the stake anymore, even though Biblically it would be fine. Oh Lord, I praise you drowing all the children"


avoiding. avoiding.

instead of making up stuff like the 18 year old you are, deal with the fact that tonight you totally trashed Jews, and are flustered how to answer the fact that per your own words, using logic, that Catholics are pretty stupid too.

bigot

[grogan2767]

You are such a hypocrite. I'M avoiding? I thrown disgusting scriptures one after the other into your ugly face, and you ignore them. You even call them worhty of worhsip. YOU are avaoiding everything. Answere one question you dumb ****. You probbaly would burn someone at the stake!! You are disgusting for not callinf these scriptures for what they are. Ghastly!!!

You are avoiding.

avoiding. avoiding.

instead of making up stuff like the 18 year old you are, deal with the fact that tonight you totally trashed Jews, and are flustered how to answer the fact that per your own words, using logic, that Catholics are pretty stupid too.

bigot

[grogan2767]

I don't like you. You would probably burn me at the stake! You would stone me to death if we lived in a Theocracy. This is personal, becuase people like you are what is wrong with the world. You are disgrace to your Jewish family for believing in Christ. You are disgrace to any children you may have becuase you will not question attrocity. Do you realize that your children will read these verses eventually, and look up at you with disgusted looks in their eyes, and you will have to tell them that God can torture anyone he likes and still be Omnibenevolent? You may not have kids, because I can't imagine you ever been laid in your life.

avoiding. avoiding.

instead of making up stuff like the 18 year old you are, deal with the fact that tonight you totally trashed Jews, and are flustered how to answer the fact that per your own words, using logic, that Catholics are pretty stupid too.

bigot

[3 to be 4]

I don't like you. You would probably burn me at the stake! You would stone me to death if we lived in a Theocracy. This is personal, becuase people like you are what is wrong with the world. You are disgrace to your Jewish family for believing in Christ. You are disgrace to any children you may have becuase you will not question attrocity. Do you realize that your children will read these verses eventually, and look up at you with disgusted looks in their eyes, and you will have to tell them that God can torture anyone he likes and still be Omnibenevolent? You may not have kids, because I can't imagine you ever been laid in your life.

this about sums up your sickness. Just read your own words and tell me you are proud.

You throw out names and insults and trash other peoples Gods. Gee, who here is more likely to be violent? Swearing guy or me. I just love on the Lord and you come onto every one of the threads i started and called me names. and like the juvenile you are, you make that last comment?

I have not avoided anything. i told you, He is God, and I am not, whether you like the answer or not, that is an answer.

im sorry you have so much hate in your life that you have to say such mean things on threads about the Lord of my life. thats just playground mean.

go back to kindegarten and learn about common decency

[grogan2767]

Go back to you violent, mean, nasty, imaginary friend, and hope you don't act as irresponsible as he reportedly does in your Bible. (DUMB MYTH) Don't conform to his nasty image so people around you won't get hurt.



this about sums up your sickness. Just read your own words and tell me you are proud.

You throw out names and insults and trash other peoples Gods. Gee, who here is more likely to be violent? Swearing guy or me. I just love on the Lord and you come onto every one of the threads i started and called me names. and like the juvenile you are, you make that last comment?

I have not avoided anything. i told you, He is God, and I am not, whether you like the answer or not, that is an answer.

im sorry you have so much hate in your life that you have to say such mean things on threads about the Lord of my life. thats just playground mean.

go back to kindegarten and learn about common decency

[3 to be 4]

so what about your Torah trashing tonight? and thinking Catholics are stupid for believing in Jesus and Heaven?