Official Pats/Bills Discussion

[pats1]

Again, let's use Reiss' post as the beginning of the "Official" thread to prevent another flame session:

http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/reiss_pieces/


October 22, 2006
Buffalo conditions

ORCHARD PARK, N.Y. -- Welcome to Ralph Wilson Stadium, where the Patriots visit the Bills today (1 p.m. ET). The current temperature is 49 degrees, the skies are gray, it's windy, and it's spitting rain.

The referee for today's game is Jeff Triplette.

More to come throughout the day.

Posted By: mreiss | Time: 10:43:28 AM

[shmessy]

Is it my imagination or have we had Jeff Triplette on our menu an awful lot?

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't he handle the Pats Denver playoff loss last year (for which he should be drawn and quartered) and at least one Pats game already this year?

I'm assuming there are at least 16 head referees in the NFL. Just strange we get the same one for 3 of our last 6 games.

[Flying Fungi]

well...better to have him for this game in hopes of not having him for Indy or Chicago...

[Patriots4Ever]

Arrggh..Pats1,ya beat me Bud.Here's to a great game and another "W"!!

[SoCal Bong]

The patriotsny and murphy's fans tailgate must be in full swing right now. Probably lots of em huddled up around the fires.

Funny how just two weeks ago we were at Foxboro in warm shorts and t-shirt weather.

[pats1]

Is it my imagination or have we had Jeff Triplette on our menu an awful lot?

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't he handle the Pats Denver playoff loss last year (for which he should be drawn and quartered) and at least one Pats game already this year?

I'm assuming there are at least 16 head referees in the NFL. Just strange we get the same one for 3 of our last 6 games.

Indeed.

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/showthread.php?t=29518&highlight=triplette

[pats1]

Inactives posted:

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/showthread.php?t=43914

[Kdo5]

I'm not gonna underestimate Buffalo but I am confident. Its just we must have learned a lesson from the shock we got in the early going of the opening game.

[lobster]

Here's a direct link to the Patsfans.com Chat Room - script must be enabled for "chat.parachat.com":
http://chat.parachat.com/chat2/login.html?room=Patriots

[Patriots4Ever]

Bump......................

[skri65]

Ah CALDWELL Had him...oh well

[PaulNEPats]

GO CHAD!! Nice gain!

[D-cleater]

Finally a game thread!

couple o first down by the receivers so far. Nice run by Jackson was it?

[skri65]

I'm liking calwell these days...

He's exceeded my expectations. He's doing his job.

[desi-patsfan]

well look at that. GO reche.

[desi-patsfan]

if any of you have the Colts game, can you give us some scoring updates?

[HAMMERMILL]

Nice play calling,mixing it up well

[skri65]

Come on NEM, say something about the playcalling. Because its been GREAT so far.

[Remix 6]

lots of short passes hmm

[Ceresco]

Come on NEM, say something about the playcalling. Because its been GREAT so far.


Oh he will just wait...

[desi-patsfan]

ahhh he should have caught that.

[skri65]

old reliable..

[FSUPatsFan]

What can Brown do for you

[D-cleater]

I figured on a lot of short passes. If they can get a rhythm with the dink and dunk , thats good enough at this point, its what branch and givens were raised on.

[desi-patsfan]

2....8!!!!!!!!!!

[HAMMERMILL]

ahhh he should have caught that.

He does have allligator arms sometimes.(caldwell)

[FSUPatsFan]

Great Drive. Great way to start the game.

[skri65]

Superbowl pats are back

[Box_O_Rocks]

Cory looks well.

Evans' block on Spikes was beautiful.

[D-cleater]

fuggin EIGHT YD TD run. Any questions about Dillon?

[PaulNEPats]

Corey needs a new dance

[Ceresco]

So far so good

[Bella*chick]

That was just.

Beautiful.

[FSUPatsFan]

These are the kind of drives I love. 14 plays. 7 minutes taken off the clock.

[D-cleater]

radio broadcast is way behind the game today - sorry for the late posts :-)

[Box_O_Rocks]

He does have allligator arms sometimes.(caldwell)Not that time, maybe he could have had the catch if he laid out more, but I didn't see him pulling back or curling up to avoid a hit.

[skri65]

Now lets see the Pees has schemed up for the youngen

[desi-patsfan]

Not that time, maybe he could have had the catch if he laid out more, but I didn't see him pulling back or curling up to avoid a hit.

ageed, no one was gonna touch him. A catch would equal a TD so no hits were coming.

[grogan2767]

O gotta admit, I like the deep kick offs alot.

[sieglo]

Nice kickoff.

[desi-patsfan]

alright D, lets shut that running game down.

[The Gr8est]

Can't watch, how's the weather and field?

[sieglo]

Someone tell the D the game has started.

[PaulNEPats]

wow buffalo, lol

[HAMMERMILL]

Damn-
was a great call by them

[sieglo]

Well that was embarrassing.

[skri65]

C'mon


Well, at least Wilson got the tackle this time..

[Box_O_Rocks]

Guilty conscious Triplette? Boy Buffs - whoops, tricky bastichs, nice job by Geno to run him down.

[desi-patsfan]

wow, nice call by buff.

[FSUPatsFan]

What kind of play was it. Was it a screen or something?

[D-cleater]

shuffle pass. those wascally wabbits. I hope thats the last 3rd down they convert

[Box_O_Rocks]

Rosy played that run correctly.

[sieglo]

McGahee must be averaging about 20 yards per carry.

[Remix 6]

McGahee must be averaging about 20 yards per carry.

no the shovel pass is a pass that got 50 yards

[desi-patsfan]

there you go D, nice hold on 3rd.

[Box_O_Rocks]

Nice one JP!

[sieglo]

Sack couldn't have happened at a better time.

[Ceresco]

held them to 3 atleast.

[skri65]

If there is anything to take from this team this year, its that when one side of the ball falls, the other side picks it up. If our offense struggles, our defense picks it up. If our defense struggles, our offense picks up the slack.

[FSUPatsFan]

Does anyone know why there is no sunday night football game tonight?

[sieglo]

Can someone explain to me why they just don't let the air out of the tires of that truck carrying the pipes? Then they can just back it out.

[MoLewisrocks]

I missed the first drive and got back just in time for this....

Well I guess a FG is better than what that almost led to.

This is like playing the bad news bears - D needs to WTF up. That they scored at all is sad. This D struggles against the teams that play with no discipline and pull plays out of their asses, like the late JETS.

[HAMMERMILL]

rookie of the year

[skri65]

Maroneeeeyyyyy

[sieglo]

Kool-aid!!!!!!

[Box_O_Rocks]

Yeh, we shouldn't use Maroney on kick returns.

[FSUPatsFan]

Maroney rules!!!!

[Remix 6]

wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwhaaaaaaaaa

[D-cleater]

Wooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!11

[Bella*chick]

Yeh, we shouldn't use Maroney on kick returns.

THunder stealer!;)

[PaulNEPats]

Do you guys still want maroney taken out of kickoff returns? :P

[FSUPatsFan]

So when they talk about rookies of the week, are they going to count Maroney's KR yards as "All-Purpose" yards like they do with Bush?

[D-cleater]

Yeh, we shouldn't use Maroney on kick returns.


LOL!!!!!!!

[MoLewisrocks]

That was pretty KOOL. Incredible body control. Jauron is gonna lose this challenge as well as the game.

[PhilD]

No Sunday night game tonight because of the World Series, to answer someone's earlier question

[5 Rings for Brady!!]

I missed the first drive and got back just in time for this....

Well I guess a FG is better than what that almost led to.

This is like playing the bad news bears - D needs to WTF up. That they scored at all is sad. This D struggles against the teams that play with no discipline and pull plays out of their asses, like the late JETS.

The pats just don't seem to have any consistency to their game this season. Except running the ball when Dillon is involved.

[sieglo]

Looked in bounds to me.

[taltos]

No Sunday night game because of the World Series. For the person wanting Indy updates, it is one of the late games. Paul

[VJCPatriot]

Maroney is just electric! Wow what a return! Woot and Bills lost the challenge!

[PaulNEPats]

Cheap shot on brady

[desi-patsfan]

lol good job buffalo.

[Box_O_Rocks]

Well that's a first down, Thank You stupid Buffs!

[HAMMERMILL]

what a stupid penality on buffalo

[MoLewisrocks]

That was ugly. Good thing Buffalo is stupid.

[skri65]

Stupd stupid stupid bills.....nice elusiveness by Brady, impressive

[SVN]

bad series or playcalling there...penalty saved them

[Pats Fanatic]

That was stupid. HA

[desi-patsfan]

2....8!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[D-cleater]

Gil was saying that Jauron called for a replay in reaction to the crowd response. LOL. what a joke

[skri65]

Dillon is lookin goooooooooood

[Bella*chick]

I really love Corey.

Now we need to have our D step up the way the offense has.

[VJCPatriot]

Dirty hit by Bills. They should know better. And we get the 1st down. Let's score!! Oh yeah Dillon! Bringing the thunder! Sweetttt.

[MrBigglesWorth]

bad series or playcalling there...penalty saved them
i disagree, if he had time he had watson at the 1. plus they're throwing alot which is a good sign

[MoLewisrocks]

Thank God NEM's connection to Tommy's headset must have failed. Dillon and Maroney are having a nice day in Buffalo.

[Ceresco]

Dillon came to play.

[Box_O_Rocks]

Dillon is lookin goooooooooood
His blocking is looking even better.

[Ahriman]

This game is funny. That's the Bills for ya.

[skri65]

I"m still kind of getting over how elusive brady was that play. I was really surprsied. If our recievers could get open that would be nice, but still, still pretty cool. That was Mcnabb-like.

[VJCPatriot]

So have there been any Chad Jackson sightings or is he used strictly for reverses? :confused:

[gomezcat]

Well, it sounds pretty promising on the radio. Now, I just need to delete any "Maroney should not be returning kicks" posts that I may have made. :D

[PATRIOT64]

Has Maroney been in the backfield yet? He has no rushing stats at all besides the punt return...

[desi-patsfan]

So have there been any Chad Jackson sightings or is he used strictly for reverses? :confused:

i hoesntly dont know why this much angst for CJ. we are up 14 to 3. We must be doing somethign right.

[Box_O_Rocks]

Thank God NEM's connection to Tommy's headset must have failed. Dillon and Maroney are having a nice day in Buffalo.NEM's headset filed a grievance with the electronics union for better workplace conditions.

Wilfork and Seymour drew double teams allowing Seau to shoot the gap! :woohoo:

[MoLewisrocks]

Nice gap shot by the old man.

Nice almost pick by the other old guy.

Three and out??? Nope, cause Wilson is back. Where's Hawkins?

[SVN]

another poor peice of tackling convert on 3rd and 11 !! ...s***ks...

[Ahriman]

i hoesntly dont know why this much angst for CJ. we are up 14 to 3. We must be doing somethign right.

Exactly. The coaches have plays which he is slotted in for. If the defense is playing a scheme which negates those plays, he won't be on the field. It's nothing to get all frustrated about. The kid is a rookie, after all.

[MrBigglesWorth]

Has Maroney been in the backfield yet? He has no rushing stats at all besides the punt return...
ya he got creamed on a brady pass to make it 3 and 1 on the first series

[Box_O_Rocks]

Has Maroney been in the backfield yet? He has no rushing stats at all besides the punt return...Yup, he caught a Brady dump-off for a first down and one heck of smack by one of the Bills' LBs.

[skri65]

Three and out??? Nope, cause Wilson is back. Where's Hawkins?



Oh please...

[VJCPatriot]

i hoesntly dont know why this much angst for CJ. we are up 14 to 3. We must be doing somethign right.

Huh. I heard he was slotted to start this game so I was asking if anybody had seen him make any plays *receiving*. Where did I say this game was not going well for us?

[The Gr8est]

Wow, incredible catch by Andre Johnson. Stole a long TD from two Jaguar defenders.

[Remix 6]

because CJ can easily be a Pro Bowler :\

he had a nice reverse :)

[skri65]

Gabriel is PREDATOR.

[MoLewisrocks]

WOW - Buffalo has some bad karma today. That sure looked like a 1st and 10. They can't quite do anything right.

[pats-blue]

NNNNOOOOO! Stop with the outside throws, doesn't the OC know Tom has a mental problem throwing the outside passes????

[MrBigglesWorth]

they need to put maroney in the I-formation, give hima fullback

[desi-patsfan]

bah where was the protection.

[HAMMERMILL]

WOW - Buffalo has some bad karma today. That sure looked like a 1st and 10. They can't quite do anything right.
spoke to soon:p

[PaulNEPats]

Schobel owns Matt Light

[Box_O_Rocks]

Oh please...
Please what? Stop telling the truth about Wilson? He actually never left, but the knee jerk one play crowd will never figure that out.

[MrBigglesWorth]

lucky he didn't fumble

[SVN]

WTF was that....why not run dillon on 2nd and 1 ?

[pats-blue]

nicw effort by Andrews, way to stick with it

[maverick4]

Brady sacked. Even without this sack, Aaron Schoebel has been destroying Matt Light all game so far. Watch - almost every other play, there is pressure from Schoebel getting away from Light.

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[Jacky Roberts]

Matt Light is so friggin' overrated. He is like a goddamn turnstile.

[Remix 6]

Brady sacked. Even without this sack, Aaron Schoebel has been destroying Matt Light all game so far. Watch - almost every other play, there is pressure from Schoebel getting away from Light.

.

thats where we need Graham

[MoLewisrocks]

WTF is up with our Oline? I missed the first scoring drive but this is not looking very pretty. Amazing we have 14 on the board.

Nice to see old friend Damon Huard putting 14 unanswered up on the new media darling frontrunner Chargers...

[SVN]

Brady sacked. Even without this sack, Aaron Schoebel has been destroying Matt Light all game so far. Watch - almost every other play, there is pressure from Schoebel getting away from Light.

.
maybe they should run more towards him but they are not...

[Box_O_Rocks]

Nice coverage job by WIllie Andrews again, Parrish broke his first attempt at a tackle, but he slowed him enough for the others to get there and keep him juking until Willie could jump up and run him down - I really like this kids Special Teams game.

[MrBigglesWorth]

Brady sacked. Even without this sack, Aaron Schoebel has been destroying Matt Light all game so far. Watch - almost every other play, there is pressure from Schoebel getting away from Light.

.
schobel got brady the first game too

[The Gr8est]

WTF is up with our Oline? I missed the first scoring drive but this is not looking very pretty. Amazing we have 14 on the board.

Nice to see old friend Damon Huard putting 14 unanswered up on the new media darling frontrunner Chargers...

True that! Hope the talking heads stay far away from a NE bandwagon.

[MrBigglesWorth]

schobel got brady the first game too
i like the corner blitz

[X-L]

Matt Light is so friggin' overrated. He is like a goddamn turnstile.



Yep, i mentioned it on the "Graham is out" thread yesterday. Graham is a huge loss because Matt Light CANNOT block Schobel. :| Matt Light needs Grahams help, which is pretty friggin sad.

[PaulNEPats]

FUMBLE!!!!!! Nice job Vrabes!

[MrBigglesWorth]

yes!!!! sweet

[mtbykr]

Does anyone know where i can listen to the game online for free? I don't have a problem paying, but I have sunday ticket and this is the only week can't watch the game. So i dont' feel like paying for the NFL Radio thing for one game...

thanks:cool:

[The Gr8est]

Maybe if a good LT slides in the draft we take him.

[Box_O_Rocks]

Vrabes and Vince, not a bad team.

Mo, remember Schobel is one of the hot pass rushers in the league. We know Light has trouble with speed rushers, I'll have to wait until I can look at tape to see what help they are giving him.

[VJCPatriot]

Does anyone know where i can listen to the game online for free? I don't have a problem paying, but I have sunday ticket and this is the only week can't watch the game. So i dont' feel like paying for the NFL Radio thing for one game...

thanks:cool:

Should be a link on the Pats website for the radio right?

This is an awesome game. Our Dline is earning their money today!

[Remix 6]

Vrabes and Vince, not a bad team.

Mo, remember Schobel is one of the hot pass rushers in the league. We know Light has trouble with speed rushers, I'll have to wait until I can look at tape to see what help they are giving him.

maybe when Kazcur comes back he can help

[skri65]

Ugllly.....

[Box_O_Rocks]

Does anyone know where i can listen to the game online for free? I don't have a problem paying, but I have sunday ticket and this is the only week can't watch the game. So i dont' feel like paying for the NFL Radio thing for one game...

thanks:cool:Give this a try: http://www.thegamelive.com/index.php

The Buff DEs are just teeing off.

[maverick4]

That failed reverse play... again, Schoebel blew by Light, disrupting Jackson's path to Brady's hand-off.

Aaron Schoebel is absolutely destroying Matt Light today.

.

[SVN]

wasted opportunity...stop calling those reverses and just run the damn balll !!

[Ahriman]

That's on Josh McDaniels. What a stupid call. That's just an absolute joke. Is that his idea of being "creative"? Here's an idea, how about throwing the ball downfield?

You think other defenses are so stupid as to not know there is a very good chance that a reverse might be coming when Chad Jackson is on the field? Argh, pathetic.

[Jacky Roberts]

Why does this offensive line suck so much vs. Buffalo? Light has looked like a girlscout today and Kelsey looks like LT. What a pathetic display.

[sarge]

Would realy like to see some more Dillon out there as well!

[cblesz]

Matt Light sucks...gets beat like a dog all the time.

[pkb]

Agreed on the 'quit the reverses and run the ball' comment. Though this was something Weis would do as well---try to be cute too early in the game.

Stop being cute---power running game on most 1st and 2nd downs, with the occasional play action and screen mixed in.

[5 Rings for Brady!!]

Vrabes and Vince, not a bad team.

Mo, remember Schobel is one of the hot pass rushers in the league. We know Light has trouble with speed rushers, I'll have to wait until I can look at tape to see what help they are giving him.

I've felt for years now that Light would be better off at right tackle.

[SVN]

That's on Josh McDaniels. What a stupid call. That's just an absolute joke. Is that his idea of being "creative"? Here's an idea, how about throwing the ball downfield?

You think other defenses are so stupid as to not know there is a very good chance that a reverse might be coming when Chad Jackson is on the field? Argh, pathetic.
mcdaniels is so predictable on 2nd and 3rd downs....the hitch pass, the reverse...how about running the ball ?

[MoLewisrocks]

UGLY

Good thing if Buffalo didn't have bad luck they'd have none. Hope that holds and I hope we don't get our QB killed today.

[X-L]

Good god, can Matt Light block at all? He's almost non-existent. :|

[Box_O_Rocks]

wasted opportunity...stop calling those reverses and just run the damn balll !!Reverses are one of the ways to force a fast defense to play you honest.

Rodney and Reed are geared up to have a fun game I see.

[Jacky Roberts]

Matt Light sucks...gets beat like a dog all the time.

Light = overrated

[maverick4]

Matt Light is getting absolutely embarassed. We're up 14-3, so yeah it's not a big deal, but it's still embarassing for him. McDaniels should call 3 straight rushes off left tackle, so Light can attack Schoebel and maybe rough him up a bit. At the rate Light is getting destroyed play after play, I don't feel good about Brady's health from the backside.

[The Gr8est]

Seems like forever since we've been able to rely on Light without his Graham safety blanket. If Graham leaves after this season we may seriously need to look to upgrade LT.

[Box_O_Rocks]

Light = overrated
By whom of font of all wisdom? Where have the Matt Light probowl parades been held? Buffalo's D-line was built for just one thing, rushing the passer, odd that they would be good at it.

[Jacky Roberts]

McGahee could rush for 150+ today. We're up 14-3, but I feel like we are starting to get outplayed big time here.

[5 Rings for Brady!!]

Agreed on the 'quit the reverses and run the ball' comment. Though this was something Weis would do as well---try to be cute too early in the game.

Stop being cute---power running game on most 1st and 2nd downs, with the occasional play action and screen mixed in.

I always admired the Steelers for sticking with the run game and smashmouth football. Ever since the Weis days, we get into these elaborate gadget plays when we should be running the ball. So by the end of the game, we are beat up, instead of the other team's defense. Then when we try to run the ball, we haven't yet wore down the other team enough to be effective.

Or we just don't run it even when it is working.......

[SVN]

matt light is who he is...the play calling needs to protect his players...you think weis would keep doing what mcdaniels is doing ?

[desi-patsfan]

By whom of font of all wisdom? Where have the Matt Light probowl parades been held? Buffalo's D-line was built for just one thing, rushing the passer, odd that they would be good at it.

ur fighting a losing battle. Apprently its **** on Matt Light day. I agree hes having a tough time right now, but i dont think we need to kick him off the team anytime soon.

[Jacky Roberts]

By whom of font of all wisdom? Where have the Matt Light probowl parades been held? Buffalo's D-line was built for just one thing, rushing the passer, odd that they would be good at it.

I don't mean by NFL fans at large, but by Patriot fans. This guy sucks.

[sarge]

I'm listening to the radio broadcast on the radio.

Everytime they say Lossman back to pass, it is immediatley followed by "complete" or "it's a catch" or "caught".

What the hell. The Pats can not stop freaking JP Losman???

[cblesz]

Defense is playing bad. Are they ever gonna put Chad Jackson in for a play other than a freaking reverse??!?!

[Jacky Roberts]

I'm listening to the radio broadcast on the radio.

Everytime they say Lossman back to pass, it is immediatley followed by "complete" or "it's a catch" or "caught".

What the hell. The Pats can not stop freaking JP Losman???

Pats are getting slapped around badly right now by Buffalo on both sides of the ball. They need to force a field goal here. Bills score a TD, Pats are going to be in big trouble heading into the second half.

[SVN]

I'm listening to the radio broadcast on the radio.

Everytime they say Lossman back to pass, it is immediatley followed by "complete" or "it's a catch" or "caught".

What the hell. The Pats can not stop freaking JP Losman???
bills own time of possesion and yards so you will hear it a lot more...
can we get a stop on 3rd down ???

[skri65]

I don't mean by NFL fans at large, but by Patriot fans. This guy sucks.


Given, he's having a tough time with Schobel (and always has), he hardly sucks.

[skri65]

That under armor commercial scares the hell out of me. They're like 10 years old, relax..

[sarge]

Losman completing 88% of his passes!

[sarge]

How's Seymour looking?

[PaulNEPats]

Oh great, Seymour's out


Nice INT by Samuel!

[Jacky Roberts]

Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!

[5 Rings for Brady!!]

We are the 'get well' defense today.

[5 Rings for Brady!!]

We are the 'get well' defense today.

[skri65]

Asante is earning his paycheck this year (for better or worse)

[Box_O_Rocks]

I don't mean by NFL fans at large, but by Patriot fans. This guy sucks.
All players have something that can be exploited, Light's have always been speed rushers, if Buffalo is stunting to take away Lights angles or the help he might have been allocated then crap will happen. If Light isn't getting help then NEM can bag on Scar this week along with McDaniels.

Asante seems to have done okay on that play.

[SVN]

whats wrong with seymour ??????

[sarge]

What's wrong with Seymour?

[cblesz]

Nice pick...now, does Light get beat all over the place again? Or, can he give Brady time?

Oh, forgot, McDaniels will call a run to the right, run to the right and then a reverse...btw, did we see how well the screen pass (the ONE we ran) did??

[skri65]

If anyone hears something about seymour please post...


a bit worried here

[lutontown_fc]

What a bunch of negative sad sacks alot of you are.

NE is winning 14-3 and all you can do is bi*ch and whine.

Jacky Roberts is a troll is it not obvious to everyone?

NM

[MoLewisrocks]

JP is his own worst enemy. Nice pass to Asante.

Hope Seymour isn't badly hurt - looks to be his forearm or elbow they're looking at and he's wincing.

[VJCPatriot]

Great play on the ball by Samuel. This Pats defense is really forcing the turnovers today.

[SVN]

All players have something that can be exploited, Light's have always been speed rushers, if Buffalo is stunting to take away Lights angles or the help he might have been allocated then crap will happen. If Light isn't getting help then NEM can bag on Scar this week along with McDaniels.

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they should try running the ball on him on the left side with dillon,,,mcdaniels needs to make this adjustment....or run a 2 min off for a change...
we have a 2 min situation here and mdaniels has been horrible in this in the past..lets see now..

[sarge]

Well, we all knew Seymour was due to get hurt. The Colts game is coming up so what else is new?

[Box_O_Rocks]

I'm listening to the radio broadcast on the radio.

Everytime they say Lossman back to pass, it is immediatley followed by "complete" or "it's a catch" or "caught".

What the hell. The Pats can not stop freaking JP Losman???A lot of JP's throws are fairly quick ones underneath, the D is giving up the short pass to avoid the big plays.

[BradyisGod]

Great play on the ball by Samuel. This Pats defense is really forcing the turnovers today.

Yeah, everyone was complaining about the lack of turnovers.

Now our negative trolls will say that you "can't rely on those to win games"

[Remix 6]

lets get CJ in stride and see what happens

[Jacky Roberts]

Patriots have -3 total yards in the second quarter. YIKES

[SVN]

there is mcdanels for you !!! f***king draw for the 2nd successive week !! same sh**t against the fins in the 2 min off and it blew up and he does it again

[MrBigglesWorth]

Well, we all knew Seymour was due to get hurt. The Colts game is coming up so what else is new?
if i were to speculate it's probably a hyper extended (sprained) elbow

[sarge]

if i were to speculate it's probably a hyper extended (sprained) elbow

Any idea how bad something like is?

[MrBigglesWorth]

should have ran the draw earlier with this pass rush

[MrBigglesWorth]

no idea, i'm not a doc, but at least it's not a leg injury

[Remix 6]

Maroney 10 yards isnt enough because pass on 1st..run with faulk on 2nd = -3 + Maroney 10 = 3 yards to go PUNT damnit

a great punt btw

[Box_O_Rocks]

they should try running the ball on him on the left side with dillon,,,mcdaniels needs to make this adjustment....or run a 2 min off for a change...
we have a 2 min situation here and mdaniels has been horrible in this in the past..lets see now..
You mean like they did with Cory's second TD? I thought people were predicting Buffalo to be tough at home, too bad they are professionals too.

[Jacky Roberts]

CBS said Seymour has an arm injury and his return today is "probable." Good news

[MrBigglesWorth]

the pats should go to the 4-3 with wright inside, but probably don't have enough linemen now

where's marquise when you need him

[skri65]

hahaha. I don't think Hobbs realized the half was over.

Guess its just another defensive fumble recovery for my fantasy team..

[MrBigglesWorth]

CBS said Seymour has an arm injury and his return today is "probable." Good news
buffalo starts with the ball so i guess we'll see in the 2nd half

[Jacky Roberts]

Halftime.

Totally getting outplayed, but winning 14-3. Hopefully Belichick tightens this team up at HT and they come out flying and put this game away.

[skri65]

We've forced 3 turnovers

We're winning by 11 points.


RELAX

NO team is perfect for 2 halfs!

[Remix 6]

reiss says hes probable

[SVN]

You mean like they did with Cory's second TD? I thought people were predicting Buffalo to be tough at home, too bad they are professionals too.
i know they are but so far the kick off return is the difference in the game really,we are less the 10 yards this quarter running the same plays
1st down maroney run for 5 yards
2nd down sack/hitch pass for loss of yards/draw play for nothing
3rd sack or short pass for no 1st down

[sarge]

SEYMOUR IS DONE FOR A WHILE!

ANd I am not just saying this to be cynicle.

Gil Santos just said on the radio broadcast that Seymour's return is probably.

So was Deion Branch's according to Gil when the Pats played the Cardinals in 04.

Anytime These guys ever report news regarding and injury from the sideline, you be 100% positive it is pure crap.

Seymour out atleast 4 weeks IMO.

[desi-patsfan]

We've forced 3 turnovers

We're winning by 11 points.


RELAX

NO team is perfect for 2 halfs!

its sad, i can already see the post game threads. We won but were sooo lucky. Light sux. Wilson sux. Mcdaniels sux. Triade asante. blah....blah....blah....its too bad we are losing....oh wait....

[Kdo5]

Halftime.

Totally getting outplayed, but winning 14-3. Hopefully Belichick tightens this team up at HT and they come out flying and put this game away.
LOL. Out played? What the heck are you talking about. Statistically on yards, but we have what? 3 turn overs right now, and an 11 point lead. I say we are out playing them. Stop talking crap Jacky.

[Hok]

Sorry in advance for sounding like NEM.

But is it just me, or did we not run a single play-action in the first half?

[DaBruinz]

Anyone else disappointed with the Pats play on offense in the 2nd quarter? They need to get the run going again. Putting Dillon on the bench is silly. The Pats had 2 golden opportunities to do something and they did nothing but lose a bunch of yardage.

[Remix 6]

we've taken a shot or 2 deep..lets keep going..LETS RUN THE BALL. 7 carries amongst Corey and Laurence..lets go

[Kdo5]

Dillon is just a beast, bring him in again and we've got another oppurtunity for him to score another TD.

[DaBruinz]

LOL. Out played? What the heck are you talking about. Statistically on yards, but we have what? 3 turn overs right now, and an 11 point lead. I say we are out playing them. Stop talking crap Jacky.

KDO -
Its not really crap. The Pats offense was badly outplayed by the Buffalo defense there in the 2nd quarter. If not for the late hit on Brady by the Buffalo defense, the Pats would only have a 10-3 lead.

[Box_O_Rocks]

Wow! Totally outplayed? Three F-ing turnovers by Buffalo, all forced by the NE D. Two rushing TD's by the O, behind some awsome run blocking. A decent KR by Maroney. Yeh, Totally outplayed.

[BradyManny2344]

Can we please put Chad Jackson on the field and throw the ball towards him? Jeez. What harm can come from playing him?

[Remix 6]

Wow! Totally outplayed? Three F-ing turnovers by Buffalo, all forced by the NE D. Two rushing TD's by the O, behind some awsome run blocking. A decent KR by Maroney. Yeh, Totally outplayed.

decent KR is 20-25 yards..74 yards is great

our D needs to step it up..as does McDaniels

[Kdo5]

KDO -
Its not really crap. The Pats offense was badly outplayed by the Buffalo defense there in the 2nd quarter. If not for the late hit on Brady by the Buffalo defense, the Pats would only have a 10-3 lead.
What I mean is exactly what Box posted after you.

[BradyManny2344]

Wow! Totally outplayed? Three F-ing turnovers by Buffalo, all forced by the NE D. Two rushing TD's by the O, behind some awsome run blocking. A decent KR by Maroney. Yeh, Totally outplayed.

This was vintage Pats to be honest. '01 and '03 Pats where even though it looks like we're "getting outplayed", we still end up with more points. Big plays on D and special teams.

That said, how could you not be let down by the offense after that first drive?

[Kdo5]

decent KR is 20-25 yards..74 yards is great

our D needs to step it up..as does McDaniels
I know, I dont like the playcalling in the second half. The defense has done well, letting up yards but stopping them when it counts and creating turnovers.

[MrBigglesWorth]

need to run more draws to slow down the defensive ends or even anothetr tight end screen. then once you got them slowed down try deep once or twice

[BradyisGod]

SEYMOUR IS DONE FOR A WHILE!

ANd I am not just saying this to be cynicle.

Gil Santos just said on the radio broadcast that Seymour's return is probably.

So was Deion Branch's according to Gil when the Pats played the Cardinals in 04.

Anytime These guys ever report news regarding and injury from the sideline, you be 100% positive it is pure crap.

Seymour out atleast 4 weeks IMO.

What a crock...

http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/reiss_pieces/

[Jacky Roberts]

LOL. Out played? What the heck are you talking about. Statistically on yards, but we have what? 3 turn overs right now, and an 11 point lead. I say we are out playing them. Stop talking crap Jacky.

Bills are going up and down the field at will. Good news is they are the Bills and they keep turning it over. We are not outplaying them. Right now their defense is dictating this game on Brady and the Pats are using their 'bend don't break' defense. I'm nervous how this one is turning out.

[DaBruinz]

its sad, i can already see the post game threads. We won but were sooo lucky. Light sux. Wilson sux. Mcdaniels sux. Triade asante. blah....blah....blah....its too bad we are losing....oh wait....

If you don't think the Pats were lucky by Buffalo taking that stupid penatly, then what would you call it? The Pats offense didn't do ANYTHING for a quarter. The only reason the Pats aren't losing is that the defense is playing better than the Buffalo offense.

Stop acting like the Pats have been perfect. They've been anything but. And the way they are playing, they could lose the game if they don't change things around on offense in the second half.

[skri65]

its sad, i can already see the post game threads. We won but were sooo lucky. Light sux. Wilson sux. Mcdaniels sux. Triade asante. blah....blah....blah....its too bad we are losing....oh wait....



It's truly getting sickening to the point where I don't enjoy these boards sometimes. We could end this game with 6 INT and then we'd just complain about how bad our run defense was.

Name a PERFECT team in the league. There ISN"T one. I think we come as close as it gets. So chill people.

[Box_O_Rocks]

Sorry in advance for sounding like NEM.

But is it just me, or did we not run a single play-action in the first half?Well, you can be NEM Jr. if you want, but against a speed rush team does a slow developing play action to any good? Folks are whining about Light as it is, so add the extra 1/2 second or so it takes to fake the ball and finish dropping back...ouch!

[PATRIOT64]

Well we are crying about the protection Brady is having and maybe it IS dangerous if it keeps up,but bottom line is the Bills have 3 sacks so far-no forced fumbles...The Patriots have just one sack but that was a forced fumble - So the Bills D-Line may be looking a tad better thus far with pressure but we got that turnover on just one shot...It Proves numbers and stats are just that,numbers and stats...

[Remix 6]

I know, I dont like the playcalling in the second half. The defense has done well, letting up yards but stopping them when it counts and creating turnovers.


still you cant expect your D to keep doing that..the Bills have gotten pretty close. McGahee is consistently getting 4-6 yards..minus the interception ... Losman has looked good once again. we cant let them do that

[skri65]

Bills are going up and down the field at will. Good news is they are the Bills and they keep turning it over. We are not outplaying them. Right now their defense is dictating this game on Brady and the Pats are using their 'bend don't break' defense. I'm nervous how this one is turning out.


Is the "bend don't break" defense not what we used to win 3 superbowls?

[PaulNEPats]

Hopefully this is just growing pains for McDaniels, because right now he pretty much sucks.

[MrBigglesWorth]

idiot eagles made the same mistake they did years ago, no pts before half inside red zone

[BradyManny2344]

Well, you can be NEM Jr. if you want, but against a speed rush team does a slow developing play action to any good? Folks are whining about Light as it is, so add the extra 1/2 second or so it takes to fake the ball and finish dropping back...ouch!

A draw or screen would be the most effective weapons at their disposal I'd think.

I still want them to just send CJ down the sideline deep just once. He's lightning fast, it at the very least would keep the D honest. They oughta start using him to stretch the field, even if it's as a decoy, as someone in another thread suggested.

[MrClutch]

Is there a free live radio to listen to tune in to the game?

[Jacky Roberts]

Is the "bend don't break" defense not what we used to win 3 superbowls?

Vs the Rams, Panthers, and Eagles, yes. This is Buffalo. I guarantee you Buffalo is the more confident team in the locker room right now. Pats need to get their crap together or this could get scary.

[SVN]

Can we please put Chad Jackson on the field and throw the ball towards him? Jeez. What harm can come from playing him?
dont understand this jackson mania ?? wtf can he do when brady is on the ground horizontal ??? we put jackson and the bills will just allow him to catch the ball ?

[Box_O_Rocks]

decent KR is 20-25 yards..74 yards is great

our D needs to step it up..as does McDaniels
74 is indecent? Who knew!

[VJCPatriot]

Vs the Rams, Panthers, and Eagles, yes. This is Buffalo. I guarantee you Buffalo is the more confident team in the locker room right now. Pats need to get their crap together or this could get scary.

Huh? The Bills are down 14-3 and they gave up a bad turnover to end the half. Why would they be more confident?

I think the Pats need to make some adjustments with their offense but they definitely have the advantage. Talk about seeing the glass as half empty!!

[BradyisGod]

Vs the Rams, Panthers, and Eagles, yes. This is Buffalo. I guarantee you Buffalo is the more confident team in the locker room right now. Pats need to get their crap together or this could get scary.

The 2-4 Bills are more confident than the Rams/Panthers/Eagles were?

I can't find the emoticon but SAY WHA???

[desi-patsfan]

wow the mighty jax are losing to the texans.

[skri65]

Vs the Rams, Panthers, and Eagles, yes. This is Buffalo. I guarantee you Buffalo is the more confident team in the locker room right now. Pats need to get their crap together or this could get scary.


It's their defensive identity. It's been their identity for years now. And personally, I've liked it. With that said, I would like it if they could stop mcgahee.

[SVN]

nice tackling to start the quarter....

[MrBigglesWorth]

need a 4 man front, this was the same problem in game 1.

[BritPat]

need a 4 man front, this was the same problem in game 1.

Except we're 11 points up, not 7 points down.

[Box_O_Rocks]

A draw or screen would be the most effective weapons at their disposal I'd think.

I still want them to just send CJ down the sideline deep just once. He's lightning fast, it at the very least would keep the D honest. They oughta start using him to stretch the field, even if it's as a decoy, as someone in another thread suggested.If NE used a draw or screen every play it still wouldn't slow the Bills rush. Jauron designed his D on an all pass rush all the time approach, look at the records of his starting D-line. He relies on his fast LBs to pick up the run when the RB doesn't run directly into a D-lineman.

[Remix 6]

gj batting it down

[MrBigglesWorth]

Except we're 11 points up, not 7 points down.
exactly, but macgahee is getting good rushing yardage

[skri65]

Once again. They let up a first down. But, they held them in the end. Bend, don't break. And it worked.

[Jacky Roberts]

Wilfork is a beast. Sign this man NOW

[RayClay]

Bills are going up and down the field at will. Good news is they are the Bills and they keep turning it over. We are not outplaying them. Right now their defense is dictating this game on Brady and the Pats are using their 'bend don't break' defense. I'm nervous how this one is turning out.

I forget. How many points do you get for going up and down the field without as much as a field goal?

Are they style points? Do we throw out the low and high scores?

What about the Russian judge?

[PATRIOT64]

Right now Chad Jackson is about as big a game breaker as Michael Jackson would be (wonder if Chad can do moonwalks),Chad is not gonna be the difference maker in this game,Its the D-Line and running game which will get us a win or loss,thats what is going on thus far....

[MrClutch]

Anyone know of an online radio site to tune into for this game? Thanks