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Old 08-31-2006, 03:42 PM
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Consider yourself informed. It is how the GOP expects to maintain its majority. One word: FEAR



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Looking at the membership committee of this group it looks like a bi partisan who who of foreign policy expertise.

Hardly frenetic fear mongers.
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The scoop is here

Consider yourself informed. It is how the GOP expects to maintain its majority. One word: FEAR
If nothing else...and I have said this before...I hope the Bush Presidency has taught America to vote for the best candidates in the primaries. It is the failure of Americans to pay attention to the primaries that leads to contests such as Bush vs Kerry.

That election was honed down to 1 issue and that will always be a disaster. There is much debate everywhere concerning the WOT but even many republicans will admit that Bush has been a domestic disaster. Not only has he been a disaster but he had the House & Senate at his availability and never took advantage of it for the good of the country.

But it's the primaries where we mess up all the time. That leads to groups like this one that AAB found. If you can run and win on a singular issue then you have voters hoodwinked....it should never be like that...ever.

The best candidates get pushed aside early on. So, lets say Obama entered the race and ran on being tough for defense. Not that he would...just an example. So, a multi talented guy like Obama figures to get name recognition I will counter the COPD....then they label him a 1 issue candidate and he gets screwed anyways.

Now why is that? Because voters have a 1 or 2 issue mindset that the candidates exploit. If all the voters crossed party lines and at the very least voted based on 3 issues we would be better off. Not as good as 5 or 7 issues but it would negate this COPD group and bring about good debate.

Without looking...can anyone here name 5 issues that Bush had and 5 issues that Kerry had? Probably not...and if not, it's why COPD can be effective. IMO OF COURSE.
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Old 08-31-2006, 03:58 PM
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If nothing else...and I have said this before...I hope the Bush Presidency has taught America to vote for the best candidates in the primaries. It is the failure of Americans to pay attention to the primaries that leads to contests such as Bush vs Kerry.

That election was honed down to 1 issue and that will always be a disaster. There is much debate everywhere concerning the WOT but even many republicans will admit that Bush has been a domestic disaster. Not only has he been a disaster but he had the House & Senate at his availability and never took advantage of it for the good of the country.

But it's the primaries where we mess up all the time. That leads to groups like this one that AAB found. If you can run and win on a singular issue then you have voters hoodwinked....it should never be like that...ever.

The best candidates get pushed aside early on. So, lets say Obama entered the race and ran on being tough for defense. Not that he would...just an example. So, a multi talented guy like Obama figures to get name recognition I will counter the COPD....then they label him a 1 issue candidate and he gets screwed anyways.

Now why is that? Because voters have a 1 or 2 issue mindset that the candidates exploit. If all the voters crossed party lines and at the very least voted based on 3 issues we would be better off. Not as good as 5 or 7 issues but it would negate this COPD group and bring about good debate.

Without looking...can anyone here name 5 issues that Bush had and 5 issues that Kerry had? Probably not...and if not, it's why COPD can be effective. IMO OF COURSE.
I agree with you 100%. It is up to people to get off their arses, research their candidates and make sure the best one gets elected.
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Old 08-31-2006, 03:58 PM
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I agree on the primaries issue. If the 2000 race had been McCain v Bill Bradley, we would have been way better off regardless of which one of them won.
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I think you may be missing the bigger meaning of this group.

Put it this way. Can you name any other nation states in the last 100 years that put fear into its population to ascend to and maintain power?

Think about that.

It just so happens that the collapse of the USSR indicated a potential end to our vastly bloated defense budgets. Is it possible, that to prevent that from happening, a group foisted a new enemy upon us?

They wouldn't do something like that would they? I mean, use fear mongering to maintain power and funnel vast sums of our treasury into the military industrial complex just as our 50 year old foe was fading into the background?
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Most countries have think tanks of people who attempt to analyize problems facing the nation.

These folks didn't put Kim Jong Il or the Mullahs in Iran or spawn ISlamist philosophy.

You comments almost make it sound like these folks made it all up?
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One of the strategies for re-election is already being resounded across the land by GWB, Cheney and Rumsfield...talking about the fascists and what will happen if we do not continue the endless war in Iraq... I suspect that this rhetoric will intensify into a crescendo, by November when we will all hear Dems soft on terrorism... Reps good for national security.... so much so it will have an effect on the election.
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Well there are 2 different views on the GWOT, that would seem to be reasonable to present both views and let the voters decide.
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Well there are 2 different views on the GWOT, that would seem to be reasonable to present both views and let the voters decide.
wHEN ARE YOU GOING TO LAY OUT YOUR THOUGHTS OR STRATEGIES IN THE 2 THREADS? CURIOUS it will be enlightening for us to know what a right of center poster who is pro bush and pro war actually thinks is the correct plan, with their words,not the RNC's talking point's?
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