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Old 08-30-2006, 07:06 PM
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Default Why the F are we rebuilding New Orleans?

Who in thier right mind thinks its a good idea to rebuild a coastal city that sits 8 ft below sea level?---should the rest of the US taxpayers spend trillions of dollars bailing these people out every year there is a hurricane? That is why this country is going broke..And I cant wait to bail out California when the "big one" comes..all because they want to live there.
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It's either rebuild or face an everyday attack from Jesse Jackson & Al Sharpton. I wonder if Sheehan would join them...nahhhh...she doesn't like to share.
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Old 08-30-2006, 08:24 PM
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Who in thier right mind thinks its a good idea to rebuild a coastal city that sits 8 ft below sea level?---should the rest of the US taxpayers spend trillions of dollars bailing these people out every year there is a hurricane? That is why this country is going broke..And I cant wait to bail out California when the "big one" comes..all because they want to live there.
Because it's a vital American shipping port, home to millions in the metropolitan area.....BUT your CORRECT once again ELO, the money the U.S. TAXPAYERS are spending on this U.S. shipping port city, could be used to rebuild IRAQ, look at the money U.S. TAXPAYERS are spending in IRAQ , we need to spend more in IRAQ, C'mon people, These are IRAQI's, have a heart
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So, that is the reason you believe New Orleans is being rebuilt?
What do you think??? Ease up on the meds...

It has to be rebuilt...of course. However, my only question would be do they have a long-term....20+ years to deal with the fact that it is sinking?

In a perfect world...they would scale back on some of the coastal development and let nature reroot itself or help it reroot itself. Development there took a toll on the safeguards nature built like wetlands, sandbars, etc...

Not everything built there and elsewhere on our coasts has been a good idea. I think the federal government should make some policies so that developers cannot rape the coasts at will.

If New Orleans showed us anything, it showed us that the people away from the coast are extremely vunerable to disasters because they are not used to the dangers. Water, like electricity takes the path of least reluctance I feel the people living inside the city bore the brunt of the selfish developers and landowners on the coast.

Poor people cannot afford to live on the coast and yet the poor people suffered more than the rich thanks to the development of the rich. Cities and towns are too greedy to be trusted...new Orleans was greedier than most...Uncle Sam needs to step in as a safeguard to saving our coasts.
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What do you think??? Ease up on the meds...

It has to be rebuilt...of course. However, my only question would be do they have a long-term....20+ years to deal with the fact that it is sinking?

In a perfect world...they would scale back on some of the coastal development and let nature reroot itself or help it reroot itself. Development there took a toll on the safeguards nature built like wetlands, sandbars, etc...

Not everything built there and elsewhere on our coasts has been a good idea. I think the federal government should make some policies so that developers cannot rape the coasts at will.

If New Orleans showed us anything, it showed us that the people away from the coast are extremely vunerable to disasters because they are not used to the dangers. Water, like electricity takes the path of least reluctance I feel the people living inside the city bore the brunt of the selfish developers and landowners on the coast.

Poor people cannot afford to live on the coast and yet the poor people suffered more than the rich thanks to the development of the rich. Cities and towns are too greedy to be trusted...new Orleans was greedier than most...Uncle Sam needs to step in as a safeguard to saving our coasts.
Agreed.
Galveston actually raised tha elevation of its downtown to make it safer to rebuild and that's what needs to happen here. There's a big difference between the coast of LA and the coast of Maine, so let's stop pretending there isn't.
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Agreed.
Galveston actually raised tha elevation of its downtown to make it safer to rebuild and that's what needs to happen here. There's a big difference between the coast of LA and the coast of Maine, so let's stop pretending there isn't.
I get all warm and fuzzy when you agree with me Wistah....

Every once in a while my inner libertarian rears it's intelligent head.

Just kidding...Uncle Sam being Uncle Sam...nobody wastes $$$ like Uncle Sam...let's hope they spend wisely.
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It is not always about dollars and cents, it is about a vital part of our history and culture. The same could be said about other places in this country, however NOLA was for the most part destroyed. I am a NOLA afficianado and have spent some time there, it is a truly great city.. there is a people part of this that is difficult to understand. Should we rebuild the Mississippi Coast?? All of these places will get hit by Hurricanes again, should we just abandon every place that has a lot of destruction?

I can never understand this argument or any part of this argument, as we are rebuilding the Iraq infrastructure which does not seem to be a point of contention, particularly as we destroyed it. How much we are spending on NOLA needs to be compared to how much we are spending on Iraq, from my view we will get a greater return from NOLA.
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It is not always about dollars and cents, it is about a vital part of our history and culture. The same could be said about other places in this country, however NOLA was for the most part destroyed. I am a NOLA afficianado and have spent some time there, it is a truly great city.. there is a people part of this that is difficult to understand. Should we rebuild the Mississippi Coast?? All of these places will get hit by Hurricanes again, should we just abandon every place that has a lot of destruction?

I can never understand this argument or any part of this argument, as we are rebuilding the Iraq infrastructure which does not seem to be a point of contention, particularly as we destroyed it. How much we are spending on NOLA needs to be compared to how much we are spending on Iraq, from my view we will get a greater return from NOLA.
Of course it makes better sense to rebuild NO compared to rebuilding Iraq. Because these projects are happening at the same time, we have to compare them. However, justifying the rebuilding of NO because we'd get a better return than the Iraq project is a straw man arguement. ANYTHING we do would bring a better return than what we're doing in Iraq. We're only rebuilding it out of a guilty responsibility, even remorse, for the heinous destruction WE levelled on it. There will be no return. We will end up wishing we never heard of it.

We know that nature itself rejects the existence of places like New Orleans, Phoenix, Vegas, and every trailer park in Oklahoma. When nature lashes out at us, we should begin to listen. The delta needs to be restored and cannot be conquered by us with our technology. Only our arrogance toward natural forces allows us to make the same mistakes over and over again. It is a very human thing, I know, but that alone doesn't make that tendency correct.
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Who in thier right mind thinks its a good idea to rebuild a coastal city that sits 8 ft below sea level?---should the rest of the US taxpayers spend trillions of dollars bailing these people out every year there is a hurricane? That is why this country is going broke..And I cant wait to bail out California when the "big one" comes..all because they want to live there.
WE ALL KNOW WHY BUT IT ISN'T POLITICLLY CORRECT TO SAY IT.
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We know that nature itself rejects the existence of places like New Orleans, Phoenix, Vegas, and every trailer park in Oklahoma. When nature lashes out at us, we should begin to listen. The delta needs to be restored and cannot be conquered by us with our technology. Only our arrogance toward natural forces allows us to make the same mistakes over and over again. It is a very human thing, I know, but that alone doesn't make that tendency correct.
I agree with the whole delta thing, it has been diminished and minimized in so many ways, this natural buffer and nursery for the fishing industry has been minimize and rendered inneffective, in the name of progress and oil.
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