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Old 08-28-2006, 09:01 PM
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Default Liberal Media Predictably Silent Re: Sear's Tower Plot

The silence is maddening...barley a pin drop...what are they afraid of?

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Batiste: Once the explosives takes place, we're going to launch a whole ground war.
Informant: What?
Batiste: We're going to have a full ground war.
Informant: Ground?
Batiste: Yeah.
Informant: Ground war?
Batiste: Yeah.
Informant:</STRONG> What does that mean?
Batiste: That means that we're going to kill all the devils we can."

He talks about planting the explosives under the tower with his operatives.

Batiste: It's got to actually go in the sewer under the building, directly under the building, see what I'm saying, and it takes a crew of people just to do that.

Later he goes on to talk about attacking a Chicago area prison where he would recruit freed Muslim brothers who would help him fight the jihad, as the explosion of the tower creates a distraction.

Ultimately Batiste appears to talk about the widespread fear this incident would spread around the country, creating the right conditions for his army to topple the US Government.
Read this blowhard...sounds like the liberals over here
Perhaps he should have waited for a year or two before talking crap.

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On the first page of its founding manifesto, the massively funded Department of Homeland Security intones, "Today's terrorists can strike at any place, at any time, and with virtually any weapon."

But if it is so easy to pull off an attack and if terrorists are so demonically competent, why have they not done it? Why have they not been sniping at people in shopping centers, collapsing tunnels, poisoning the food supply, cutting electrical lines, derailing trains, blowing up oil pipelines, causing massive traffic jams, or exploiting the countless other vulnerabilities that, according to security experts, could so easily be exploited?

One reasonable explanation is that almost no terrorists exist in the United States and few have the means or the inclination to strike from abroad. But this explanation is rarely offered.
Say what you will about Bush and his many mistakes. But 1 mistake he has not made is ignoring radical Islam and the extremist Muslim's that practice it....Clinton scoffed at these reports if I remember correctly.

Bush will never get credit for making terrorism a world-wide issue. If he has done nothing else, this fact alone will be his remembrance...a remembrance that will save thousands and thousands of lives over time.

So scoff at his mistakes, his cabinet, rumsfeld..all the rest. Much of it deserves criticism...but the WOT that should be called Alertness-On-Terror will never go away thanks to Bush...even liberals should be thankfull for this if nothing else.
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Old 08-28-2006, 10:52 PM
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Say what you will about Bush and his many mistakes. But 1 mistake he has not made is ignoring radical Islam and the extremist Muslim's that practice it....Clinton scoffed at these reports if I remember correctly.
He helped make radical Islamism the force it is today. It was a problem before Bush, but he helped unite terrorist factions, develop their skills, give them a raison d'etre, and get them even more pi$$ed at us. He'll be remember for making terrorists into the force it has become. Let's remember, the terrorists decided to launch their big attack after Bush came into office. They did it for a reason.

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Bush will never get credit for making terrorism a world-wide issue. If he has done nothing else, this fact alone will be his remembrance...a remembrance that will save thousands and thousands of lives over time.
See previous answer. Bush's approach is costing thousands of lives in Iraq, Afghanistan, England, New York, Spain, and elsewhere. I think historians would scoff at your interpretation.

If Bush had not attacked Iraq and had relied more on intelligence and a very focused campaign against Al Qaeda, we would be far better off. The mess Bush created will take a long time to undo.

As far as the Sears tower story goes, I don't know why it's not getting more play. I read both liberal and conservative news sites, and haven't seen anything about it. Perhaps it hasn't been fully vetted or perhaps the media has already been embarrassed by the administration for reporting so-called terrorist threats.
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Old 08-29-2006, 05:23 AM
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IMO there has been so many reported plots, and so little substantiation of these plots by the administration that we are somewhat desensitized. I think about the Albany Mosque Soccer Playing thing, never heard anything more about it. There is no attempt to minimize any threat, there just does not seem to be any substantiation of the charges... a lot of the seem to be malcontents that are in the planning stages. I do not know when the response should take place, at its initial phases or when it is actually planned. There has been lots of rhetoric, but very little documentation of fact.
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Say what you will about Bush and his many mistakes. But 1 mistake he has not made is ignoring radical Islam and the extremist Muslim's that practice it....Clinton scoffed at these reports if I remember correctly.Damnation by faint praise. Another mistake Bush has not made is getting caught lying on tape. Another one might be accidentally launching a missile towards Ottowa. ...and still more lame comparisons to Clinton.

Bush will never get credit for making terrorism a world-wide issue. If he has done nothing else, this fact alone will be his remembrance...a remembrance that will save thousands and thousands of lives over time.No one deserves more credit for that than the WTC attackers from KofSA. Bush will be remembered for the senseless killing of thousands of American and Iraqi soldiers and civilians. His most memorable non-achievement will be the failure to bring the WTC perps to any kind of justice.
So scoff at his mistakes, his cabinet, rumsfeld..all the rest. Much of it deserves criticism...but the WOT that should be called Alertness-On-Terror will never go away thanks to Bush...even liberals should be thankfull for this if nothing else.
I doubt liberals will care about anything Bush has done. I think the country would have been more alert about terrorism after WTC no matter who was president. We certainly weren't more aware of it prior to WTC thanks to Bush or any of his predecessors. When you think about it, Bush has little to hang his hat on as far as doing the right things for his country over an 8-year term. What a waste.
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If the "Smelly Bastards" succeed in bringing down the "Sears Tower" Auntie Pelosi will be up at dawn Shreiking that "Bush Should Have Stopped It"

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Bush will never get credit for making terrorism a world-wide issue. If he has done nothing else, this fact alone will be his remembrance...a remembrance that will save thousands and thousands of lives over time.

So scoff at his mistakes, his cabinet, rumsfeld..all the rest. Much of it deserves criticism...but the WOT that should be called Alertness-On-Terror will never go away thanks to Bush...even liberals should be thankfull for this if nothing else.

F.B.N is right on the money. Bush is a lamer on lots of issues, but when it comes to terrorism, the fugger is dead on. I'm not sure many of you understand the ferocity of the radicals. I think you fellers need to watch the Nick Berg video and see for yourselves how anamalistic these loosers are. Poor Nick Berg was you NEM, he was Wistah, Harry Boy, PAtters, etc... Watch that video and then try to tell me that radicals can be dealt with in a civil fashion. There is no leaving them alone, there is no negotiating. Like the line in the movie The Siege "in this fight only the most committed wins". It's so true.

God Bless George Bush's fight against terrorism!
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F.B.N is right on the money. Bush is a lamer on lots of issues, but when it comes to terrorism, the fugger is dead on. I'm not sure many of you understand the ferocity of the radicals. I think you fellers need to watch the Nick Berg video and see for yourselves how anamalistic these loosers are. Poor Nick Berg was you NEM, he was Wistah, Harry Boy, PAtters, etc... Watch that video and then try to tell me that radicals can be dealt with in a civil fashion. There is no leaving them alone, there is no negotiating. Like the line in the movie The Siege "in this fight only the most committed wins". It's so true.

God Bless George Bush's fight against terrorism!
George Bush needs all the blessing he can get, to help atone for all of the lies and half truths he has perpetuated to accomplish the war in Iraq along with all of the lies he has wasted there...comparing the war in Iraq to combatting terrorism is very poor.
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I feel sorry for all those people who have to go to work everyday in the Sears Tower, especialally knowing that Bush & The Patriot Act are trying to protect them and the lousy sore losing Democrats are doing their best to DESTROY Bush and The Patriot Act.

There must be "Bush Haters" working in the tower, I wonder what goes through their minds when they look out the window.
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F.B.N is right on the money. Bush is a lamer on lots of issues, but when it comes to terrorism, the fugger is dead on. I'm not sure many of you understand the ferocity of the radicals. I think you fellers need to watch the Nick Berg video and see for yourselves how anamalistic these loosers are. Poor Nick Berg was you NEM, he was Wistah, Harry Boy, PAtters, etc... Watch that video and then try to tell me that radicals can be dealt with in a civil fashion. There is no leaving them alone, there is no negotiating. Like the line in the movie The Siege "in this fight only the most committed wins". It's so true.

God Bless George Bush's fight against terrorism!
With 2500 dead soldiers and counting there's no way to say that Bush's approach to terrorism is working. When we stop losing soldiers, then a case can be made that his approach has succeeded. But, the fact is, we have motivated and mobilized terrorists like never before. While their main effort is obviously focused on killing American troops in their backyard, recent reports shows they are trying very hard to attack us elsewhere.

From their perspective, the radicals are using the same sort of tactics we are: killing civilians, destroying property, creating fear and chaos in the Middle East and elsewhere. At the same time, we are giving the radicals the proof they needed to show that we are a threat. Anyone in Iraq who loses a family member as a result of Bush's invasion probably has at least a little sympathy for the terrorists.

Now as far as the irrationality of the terrorists, we had made progress from Carter to Clinton, including Reagan and Bush I. We turned Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, and, up until our invasion of Iraq, Iran into reasonably moderate nations. We could have done the same in Iraq by continuing with our carrot and stick approach. It's too late for that now. But, if we pulled out of Iraq, we would no longer be the principle enemy.

The world is far more dangerous because we took out Saddam and created a vacuum that's being filled by terrorists. The world is far more dangerous because the Iranian extremists were able to use fear to get into power, and are now aiding groups like Hezbelloh. The world is far more dangerous because we do not have a broad coalition and the extremists have support even in parts of the west.

The notion that war can defeat terrorism is absurd as believing war can defeat murderers. Terrorists need to be hunted down and stopped, but by killing innocents we are making the terrorists stronger. Again, as long as we keep losing Americans in the war on terror, we are not safer in any meaningful sense.
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With 2500 dead soldiers and counting there's no way to say that Bush's approach to terrorism is working. When we stop losing soldiers, then a case can be made that his approach has succeeded. But, the fact is, we have motivated and mobilized terrorists like never before. While their main effort is obviously focused on killing American troops in their backyard, recent reports shows they are trying very hard to attack us elsewhere.

From their perspective, the radicals are using the same sort of tactics we are: killing civilians, destroying property, creating fear and chaos in the Middle East and elsewhere. At the same time, we are giving the radicals the proof they needed to show that we are a threat. Anyone in Iraq who loses a family member as a result of Bush's invasion probably has at least a little sympathy for the terrorists.

Now as far as the irrationality of the terrorists, we had made progress from Carter to Clinton, including Reagan and Bush I. We turned Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, and, up until our invasion of Iraq, Iran into reasonably moderate nations. We could have done the same in Iraq by continuing with our carrot and stick approach. It's too late for that now. But, if we pulled out of Iraq, we would no longer be the principle enemy.

The world is far more dangerous because we took out Saddam and created a vacuum that's being filled by terrorists. The world is far more dangerous because the Iranian extremists were able to use fear to get into power, and are now aiding groups like Hezbelloh. The world is far more dangerous because we do not have a broad coalition and the extremists have support even in parts of the west.

The notion that war can defeat terrorism is absurd as believing war can defeat murderers. Terrorists need to be hunted down and stopped, but by killing innocents we are making the terrorists stronger. Again, as long as we keep losing Americans in the war on terror, we are not safer in any meaningful sense.
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