911-Bin Laden to Iraq and the GWOT...The discussion thread and the enemies-capability

[Blue Collar]

Let's all be involved please....Bring your statements and links...Everybody can be the commander in chief or general or the common man...This is for educating ourselves on this GWOT and potential WW III....
If I need to repair links or add links I will..

Please lets all be somewhat civil and engage in a stimulationg disscussion and debate as PATSFANS and GWOT Generals....Remember the war and conquer game RISK....Or you sunk my Battleship...Lets Learn, Shall we people
I spent some time building this thread starter, so I hope you find it informative and enjoyable.....Are You Ready? GO!!!

World History and WARS.
http://www.bartleby.com/67/toc6.html

The Prize: the epic quest for oil money and power.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pri...ney,_and_Power

Germany's railroad construction in iraq(1888-1914) for the IRAQ OIL and the decision for WW I was stated as an assassination on an Austrailian Royal..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baghdad_Railway

History of Bin Laden Al Qaeda and 911 to the GWOT and the capabilities of the U.S. military and allies and Enemies....

Bin Laden
http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/presents/bin.laden/

Bin laden and al qaeda's long march to war...Written by the chief cia's -bin laden group.
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/HE31Ak02.html

Loose nukes and Al Qaeda.
http://jamestown.org/terrorism/news/...rticleid=23647

Countries with current nukes and countries with suspected nuke technology and the nuke smugglers and terrorism.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/nukes/

Global Terrorist Organizations.
http://library.nps.navy.mil/home/tgp/tgpndx.htm

Patterns of global terrorist.
http://www.mipt.org/Patterns-of-Global-Terrorism.asp

Profiles of Global Terrorist.
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums...hp/t-23420.htm

Islamic Terrorist in the U.S.
http://www.emergency.com/islamusa.htm

Terrorist at the U.S.-Mexican Border.
http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0322/p01s01-uspo.html

George Bush at the U.S. Mexican Border 2006.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4TPm...sh%20Politics#

U.S. preparedness for a chemical-biologocal terrorist attack.
http://www.csmonitor.com/2001/0920/p1s2-ussc.html

U.S. PORTS SECURITY, and what the U.S. congress is doing about it and proposing in legislation.
http://www.counterterrorismtraining.gov/pubs/port.html

NUCLEAR DETONATIONS.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LDavUG54n0&search=nuke#

911 september 11 2001. And then the Bush response to capture or kill Bin Laden/Iman Al Zarawi and Al Qaeda and the taliban who were solely responsible for 911.
http://powdertracks.blogspot.com/200...nsten-and.html

Then the decision to go to IRAQ due to the WMD's and 911 connection built on faulty intelligence..I will just add a current cost of the iraq war link, for now, much more later.
http://costofwar.com/embed.html

14 Enduring U.S. Military Bases.
http://globalsecurity.org/org/news/2...ring-bases.htm

U.S. Military Bases in Central Asia surrounding the MID EAST.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/org/ne...9-attack01.htm

2001 U.S. Terrorism Policy.
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/...55/index1.html

Irans military capability.
http://www.kentimmerman.com/news/200...ran-attack.htm

Shiite leaders and militant leaders in IRAQ.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...insurgency.htm

DRRK/North Korea's nuclear and misslie capabilty.
http://www.kimsoft.com/korea/nk-nukes.htm
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Conservative radio's MICHAEL SAVAGE's military plan to win the GWOT
http://mediamatters.org/static/audio...60418-duke.mp3
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The U.S. MILTARY WEAPONS AND DELIVERY SYSTEMS AND CAPABILTIES.
http://usmilitary.about.com/od/weapons/

USAF Counter Proliferation Center and info on nukes-chem-bio-conventonal-terrorist.
http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/cps-terr.htm

Britains Military Capability.
I will add this link today,,,,and if any link is not working I will repair, cool?

Israels Military Capabilty.
http:/www.answers.com/topic/israel-defense-forces


Together we stand divided we fall!! and politics is a very important part of the U.S.A. and the Constitution

[Real World]

Originally Posted by Blue Collar

...This is for educating ourselves on this GWOT and potential WW III....

Potential WW III? Hate to tell you folks, but this is WW III.

[Real World]

Originally Posted by NEM

Why, because Sean Hannity said it was?

BTW, exactly which war are you referring to? May I have a description of it? Where is it being fought?

NEM, radical islamists want to kill you. They not only want to kill you, but they want to kill your family, your friends, you dog and cat too. They've been at war with us for decades. Some of us realized that 5 years ago. I know I did. If you don't believe this is WW III then so be it. I invite you to take a ride down any street in a muslim country. Wear your Hawai Five O shirt, and your Al Gore campaign sticker. I'm sure that will buy you some points.

[Blue Collar]

Originally Posted by Real World

Potential WW III? Hate to tell you folks, but this is WW III.

If you read the thread starter introduction, I explain there is info links and this is a strategy thread along with open discussion and you may add links and bring YOUR strategy to the TABLE and explain how YOU BELIEVE and that includes everyone that would like to apply their strategy and add links and explain thier tactical and counter measures and probable repercussions of their decisions and the effects of the countries directly and indirectly with global economics and economy and the HUMAN cost..WW II was similar in action on the global populace in economy and consequences..

Are you interested in discussing war and politics? Lets do it and learn from each other.

[Real World]

Originally Posted by NEM

So, if that is the case, how do we win it? Why are they at war with us? Why do they want to kill us?

The main reason that they are, allegedly, at war with us, is because of mind sets like yours.

And, because of actions like those of George W. Bush. He brought on 9/11, he is part in part responsible for what happened, and if you dont belive it, you have a lot to learn. His policies or his NON policies on the PalestinianIsraeli situation were a major factor in the attack on 9/11 taking place, this according to the King of Jordan and the Ambassador from LSaudi Arabia.

Bush is the catalyst for most of what has heppened in the world in the past five years, and your support of him is as good as being an accessory to murder.

If you had the ability to read and decifer anything that didn't bash Bush then you would understand that radical islam has hated "infidels" for longer than GW has been in office. Furthermore, the mainstream hatred for all things USA began with our recognition of Isreali sovereignty in 1947. Other actions have contributed to the radical cause. Our meddling, our support for the muj, Gulf War 1, ect.

Read some history pal.

[Blue Collar]

Originally Posted by Real World

If you had the ability to read and decifer anything that didn't bash Bush then you would understand that radical islam has hated "infidels" for longer than GW has been in office. Furthermore, the mainstream hatred for all things USA began with our recognition of Isreali sovereignty in 1947. Other actions have contributed to the radical cause. Our meddling, our support for the muj, Gulf War 1, ect.

Read some history pal.

I have and always will ....Would you lay out your stategy in this thread like you did in the other thread I created...That way we all can use the info and proceed with this dicussion on Politics and the GWOT..It will be informative entertaining, and much more enjoyable then the partisan bickering we do to each other....Let's semi-sheath our political swords and get to work on the GWOT STRATEGY......REAL WORLD what do you say ???

[IcyPatriot]

Originally Posted by NEM

That is the man you blindly follow...and nothing, apparently, will open your eyes to the truth. So, HOW MANY MORE AMERICAN DEAD, IN IRAQ, IS ENOUGH FOR YOU UNTIL YOU SEE THE TRUTH???? HOW MANY MORE MUST GEORGE BUSH KILL UNTIL PEOPLE LIKE YOU FINALLY SEE THE TRUTH? HOW MANY IS ENOUGH????

Everytime I read this broken record I feel years younger...feels like 10 years ago when I read the 1st one.

NEM you are a good guy...you are a funny guy...you are an avid Patriots fan
and you are historically disconnected with a grade school view of the big picture.

When you think of Muslims..for proper perspective think in periods of 25 - 50 -100 - 500 - 1000 and ~years.
That is the proper way to view the real picture and in that picture Bush really is but a pinhead's size of the pie.

[Blue Collar]

Originally Posted by Real World

Potential WW III? Hate to tell you folks, but this is WW III.

Allright tommorow I will place my strategy on the GWOT on the table...

I would tonight, except I have another migraine and it effects my ability, they can interfere with you....

Will you paticipate and hopefully other posters do as well patsfan13? and more, and we all can point out the errors and at least learn in the process..

Cool?

[IcyPatriot]

Originally Posted by Blue Collar

Will you paticipate and hopefully other posters do as well patsfan13? and more, and we all can point out the errors and at least learn in the process..

Cool?

Whoopee!!! Milk and cookies to follow.

[wistahpatsfan]

Originally Posted by Real World

Potential WW III? Hate to tell you folks, but this is WW III.

HA HA HA HA HA !

What specifically about this whatever the hell you're talking about reminds you of WWII and WWI? Is it the mechanized armies clashing in momentous battles in the field? Is it the homefront sacrifices of the civilians? How about submarines patrolling Long Island and Cape Cod. Maybe the relentless bombing of the cities of Europe. The rubber drives and food rationing or all the men lining up at the recruitment stations to defend the world.

Gimme a friggin break! WWIII ...OK.