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Old 07-28-2006, 04:24 PM
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You gotta be sh*ttin me! Save the Lebanese from Israel? bullsh*t! Hey Lebanon...you made your frickin bed..now lie in it!
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Old 07-28-2006, 04:43 PM
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We who oppose war have seen photos like this and have heard the warnings of old warriors who warn us of man's evil to their fellow man. Israel is in the sewer with the rest of the animals in the Middle East. There may not be a hell, but we make our own hell by our inability to live in peace. Hezbollah may have started this by capturing - not kidnapping! - those Israeli soldiers, but the response has been extremely violent and wreckless in proportion. Lobbing bombs into civilian areas makes them the same as Hezbollah, no better. I can't wait until we get some leaders who give Israel everything they provide for us in return - nothing.
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Old 07-28-2006, 04:56 PM
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I'd like to return the thanks to the extremists who blew themselves up on the Underground a year ago. I'd personally like to say thanks, face to face, to anyone who helped them.

That said, it seems that the morons on both sides are content to get off on killing civilians.
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Old 07-28-2006, 05:07 PM
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We who oppose war have seen photos like this and have heard the warnings of old warriors who warn us of man's evil to their fellow man. Israel is in the sewer with the rest of the animals in the Middle East. There may not be a hell, but we make our own hell by our inability to live in peace. Hezbollah may have started this by capturing - not kidnapping! - those Israeli soldiers, but the response has been extremely violent and wreckless in proportion. Lobbing bombs into civilian areas makes them the same as Hezbollah, no better. I can't wait until we get some leaders who give Israel everything they provide for us in return - nothing.

Well said, WPF.
State sponsored or not, terrorism is just that, terrorism.
Hezbollah's terrorists and / or Israeli soldiers killing children, are equally guilty of the same terrible crimes.
One point that I disagree with you on though is that Israel does provide us with the hatred of the Muslim world because we are her partners dragged into these crimes against humanity.
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Well said, WPF.
State sponsored or not, terrorism is just that, terrorism.
Hezbollah's terrorists and / or Israeli soldiers killing children, are equally guilty of the same terrible crimes.
One point that I disagree with you on though is that Israel does provide us with the hatred of the Muslim world because we are her partners dragged into these crimes against humanity.
There's a key point you people are missing. Hezbollah deliberately targets civilians areas (since they know they could never stand up to the Israeli military) and then they hide in civilian areas, leaving Israel with no choice but to retaliate.

Then weak minded fools see moral equality in Israel's actions versus the Hezbollah - and the Hezbollah laughs all the way to their rocket launchers.
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Well said, WPF.
State sponsored or not, terrorism is just that, terrorism.
Hezbollah's terrorists and / or Israeli soldiers killing children, are equally guilty of the same terrible crimes.
One point that I disagree with you on though is that Israel does provide us with the hatred of the Muslim world because we are her partners dragged into these crimes against humanity.
In this particular go round there is no moral equalivance. Hezbollah (and Hamas) picked the fight this go round. Ever since Israel evacuated Gaza the Hamas elements have been firing rockets at Israeli civilians. Then Hezbollah go into the act kidnaping the 2 soldiers and starting their attacks. If the Lebanese wanted to protect civilians in their country they should have demanded that Hexbollah cease their attacks and return these soldiers.

They didn't and now they are reaoing the whirlwind. What is the responsibility of Iran and Syria and this, especially Iran with their interest in diverting attention from their nuke weapons program.
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Old 07-28-2006, 05:53 PM
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There's a key point you people are missing. Hezbollah deliberately targets civilians areas (since they know they could never stand up to the Israeli military) and then they hide in civilian areas, leaving Israel with no choice but to retaliate.

Then weak minded fools see moral equality in Israel's actions versus the Hezbollah - and the Hezbollah laughs all the way to their rocket launchers.

I am not missing the point the point that you mentioned, however you are missing the point that Israel also deliberately targets civilians.

The bombed UN building was not a mistake, it was a message.

How do you suppose the parents of these children in the piuctures feel now towards Israel and the US? How do you think those innocent children feel?

I am going to take a wild guess and claim that the emotions are very similar to those of an Israeli parent who is holding the corpse of his / her own child.

It is not being a weak minded fool, it is refusing to be brainwashed; seeing the moral equivalance of murder of children as the same no matter if the murderer is wearing a uniform or a ski mask.

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I am not missing the point the point that you mentioned, however you are missing the point that Israel also deliberately targets civilians.
I see no evidence of this.

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The bombed UN building was not a mistake, it was a message.
With all due respect, gimme a break. And thank you for showing just how ridiculous your arguments are.

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It is not being a weak minded fool, it is refusing to be brainwashed; seeing the moral equivalance of murder of children as the same no matter if the murderer is wearing a uniform or a ski mask.
Like I said before... the weak minded see moral equivalence between Israel and the Hezbollah.
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I said I would not respond to you, and I wont if it's political, but you and I are in 100% agreement on this issue.
Yes, proving even a broken clock is right twice a day, we seem to be in agreement on matters involving the current Israeli military actions.
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