Cheney's shooting cover-up

[OhExaulted1]

Apparently Cheney was hunting illegally (imagine that, he disrgarded the law).

Vice President Dick Cheney nor the hunting partner he accidentally shot last weekend purchased the $7 hunting stamps required under state law, Texas Parks and Wildlife officials said Monday.

A blast from Mr. Cheney's shotgun wounded Austin lawyer Harry Whittington in the face, neck and chest. The wounds were not life-threatening.

In its report, the state agency that oversees hunting and fishing said it found neither Mr. Cheney nor Mr. Whittington had purchased the game bird stamp required to hunt quail in Texas. Both had valid hunting licenses, Mr. Cheney's a non-resident license.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...2.b3af73d.html

Also is the matter of the Secret Service not allowing Texas Law Enfrocement to question the Vice President for almost 12 hours after the accident. Plenty of time to get rid of the smell and effects of alcohol.

If you or I accidently shot someone the police would want to question you immediatly and I don't think the next morning would be an acceptable response.

Guess it's a good thing for Mr. Cheney he plays by a different set of rules than the people he's supposed to work for. I guess some people are just above the law.

[mikey]

Originally Posted by OhExaulted1

Apparently Cheney was hunting illegally (imagine that, he disrgarded the law).

Vice President Dick Cheney nor the hunting partner he accidentally shot last weekend purchased the $7 hunting stamps required under state law, Texas Parks and Wildlife officials said Monday.

A blast from Mr. Cheney's shotgun wounded Austin lawyer Harry Whittington in the face, neck and chest. The wounds were not life-threatening.

In its report, the state agency that oversees hunting and fishing said it found neither Mr. Cheney nor Mr. Whittington had purchased the game bird stamp required to hunt quail in Texas. Both had valid hunting licenses, Mr. Cheney's a non-resident license.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...2.b3af73d.html

Also is the matter of the Secret Service not allowing Texas Law Enfrocement to question the Vice President for almost 12 hours after the accident. Plenty of time to get rid of the smell and effects of alcohol.

If you or I accidently shot someone the police would want to question you immediatly and I don't think the next morning would be an acceptable response.

Guess it's a good thing for Mr. Cheney he plays by a different set of rules than the people he's supposed to work for. I guess some people are just above the law.

How can you get shot in the FACE, NECK,and CHEST and not be life-threatening???

Thisi is another LIE from the Bush/Cheney lying machine.

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[All_Around_Brown]

Originally Posted by mikey

How can you get shot in the FACE, NECK,and CHEST and not be life-threatening???

Thisi is another LIE from the Bush/Cheney lying machine.

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It was just mild peppering...like seasoning a salad

[JLC]

Originally Posted by mikey

How can you get shot in the FACE, NECK,and CHEST and not be life-threatening???

Thisi is another LIE from the Bush/Cheney lying machine.

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Well, "mikey," your lack of knowledge (and utterly worn out bloviating) is truly amazing. Quail are small, very quick birds which rise and disperse rapidly when disturbed and can be quite difficult to hit. They are hunted with short(er) barrelled shotguns with open chokes (shot pattern spreads quickly) and relatively light powder loads. The pellets used normally are very small (7.5 or 8s) and of 1 oz to 1 and 1/8 oz. in weight for each shell. In many cases, hunters use 20 or 16 gauge shotguns instead of the standard 12 gauge, further lightening the shot and powder amounts.
It is not impossible to be killed or badly injured by an upland shotgun with quail loads, but the range would have to be extremely short, and you'd have to hit a vital area. On the other hand, this type of incident happens not infrequently without serious consequence to the person hit with the pellets.

Ask any 10-year-old Texan boy.
It's not a lie. You simply don't have a clue what you're talking about.

Incidentally, I understand that Texas law doesn't require you to report this type of hunting accident unless the injury is fatal.

[sieglo]

The stamp requirement went into effect in September. Cheney had the proper license, not the stamp. Outrageous, huh? I for one am appalled. First the $7 hunting stamp violation, next he'll be burning the Constitution on the steps of the Capitol!

[mikey]

Originally Posted by JLC

Well, "mikey," your lack of knowledge (and utterly worn out bloviating) is truly amazing. Quail are small, very quick birds which rise and disperse rapidly when disturbed and can be quite difficult to hit. They are hunted with short(er) barrelled shotguns with open chokes (shot pattern spreads quickly) and relatively light powder loads. The pellets used normally are very small (7.5 or 8s) and of 1 oz to 1 and 1/8 oz. in weight for each shell. In many cases, hunters use 20 or 16 gauge shotguns instead of the standard 12 gauge, further lightening the shot and powder amounts.
It is not impossible to be killed or badly injured by an upland shotgun with quail loads, but the range would have to be extremely short, and you'd have to hit a vital area. On the other hand, this type of incident happens not infrequently without serious consequence to the person hit with the pellets.

Ask any 10-year-old Texan boy.
It's not a lie. You simply don't have a clue what you're talking about.

Incidentally, I understand that Texas law doesn't require you to report this type of hunting accident unless the injury is fatal.

I would like to think the head is a vital area.

I would consider a shotgun blast to the face to be life threatening.


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[JLC]

Originally Posted by mikey

I would like to think the head is not only a vital area, but the most vulnerable as well.

I would consider getting pellets shot in the head to be life threatening.


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You might want to read the article you posted on the accident in light of the information I provided. You obviously aren't a hunter, or you would understand why this wasn't life threatening. This guy was about 30 yards away when he was hit by pellets from Chaney's gun. I'm not going to tell you it is fun to be hit by pellets, but if I had to pick a scenario to get "peppered" (good one, aab ), this would be it. Medium-long range, small shot, light charge, open choke shotgun. The shot pattern very likely was in a 30-36" wide array by the time it got to the unfortunate (and stupid) lawyer. If you leave a group of hunters (which he did to retrieve another bird) and rejoin without letting everyone know you're back, well... this is how accidents DO happen.

[All_Around_Brown]

I still think he shouldn't have cheated on his hunter safety exam.

[shirtsleeve]

Originally Posted by JLC

If you leave a group of hunters (which he did to retrieve another bird) and rejoin without letting everyone know you're back, well... this is how accidents DO happen.

I agreed with everything but that. Hmmm, where have I heard and read the words "Be sure of your target and what lies beyond" before?

Obviously, no harm-no foul, though. He did shoot a lawyer, after all. Was it a personal injury or family law attorney?

[JLC]

Not my intent to let the VP off without a smack up alongside the head - - he should have been more careful.

There's a reason I'm reluctant to hunt with people I don't know, however - they sometimes do things like this, which greatly increase the odds of an accident happening. While a senior in high school, 2 guys - best friends - I knew from my class were hunting pheasants. They got separated, didn't communicate properly and one got back around in front of the other, and popped up in front of the other as a couple birds got up. He never saw him, until it was too late, was hit directly in the head at short range and died. His buddy had to carry him a mile and a half back to the car. They had hunted together for years, but got a little bit careless, and one of them got a whole lot dead.