Official Pats/Jets Discussion

[pats1]

Ball knocked off the tee!

Geno holds it.

[Box_O_Rocks]

Wow, Sante knocked one down.

[skri65]

wow amazing

[Box_O_Rocks]

They brought Kaczur in and moved Ashworth from LT to FB - then they put Ash at TE.

[Box_O_Rocks]

five runs to start the drive.

[Box_O_Rocks]

run no. 6.

[fleabassist1]

qb sneak! woot

[desi-patsfan]

7 runs...interesting.

[skri65]

I know brady's a warrior, but these sneaks always scare me.

[DillNisWillN28]

On 4th down baby!!!

[Box_O_Rocks]

Brady, QB sneak for the 1st and run no. 7.

[Box_O_Rocks]

Law stops Faulk from making the 1st.

[DillNisWillN28]

We will see

[DillNisWillN28]

Yeah baby!!!

[qmjhlpei]

Good start.

[Box_O_Rocks]

Vrabel TD!

[skri65]

Vrabels just amazing. Plays great D and catches td's. Just a great player.

[skri65]

we looks simply unstoppable right now

[desi-patsfan]

i would just like to thank the steelers for giving us vrabs and josh.

[Flying Fungi]

last week it was Vrabel as TE and Ashworth as eligible--TD goes to Ashworth


this week, Ashworth runs the same route and the pass goes to Vrabel

good luck breaking down the film future oponents...

[Flying Fungi]

also--funny--already talking about Ty back in New England next season...

[Box_O_Rocks]

They moved Ashworth all over the place - LT, FB, TE.
Used 3 different RBs.
Scored on a TD pass to Vrabel at the back of the endzone.
Blast it, AV had to make the tackle on Miller's runback.

[Box_O_Rocks]

Ash and Vrabes were both open on the TD play.

[fleabassist1]

Yes Intercepted!

[skri65]

No, injure dplayer!!!!!

[pats1]

OH ****!

Asante hurt something on that INT.

[Box_O_Rocks]

Samuel INT!

[pats1]

Looked like a knee-to-the-head.

[Flying Fungi]

Hochuli...offering tickets to the gun show...

[fleabassist1]

F*u*c*k You Jets
The Knee Was Down You Cheaters!

[pats1]

The knee was down, but Samuel's condition is more important.

[desi-patsfan]

aw crap, knee to the head. Maybe a concussion?

[skri65]

it hsould be challenged and overturned...i just hope asante's alright!

[pats1]

F*u*c*k You Jets
The Knee Was Down You Cheaters!

How the hell are they cheating?

[PatsWickedPissah]

Knee CLEARLY down. Bad call

[Box_O_Rocks]

Throw the flag BB, the Refs didn't see what happened so made the reviewable call.

[pats1]

Al Michaels said it matters when the knee was down AND Samuel was contacted.

I have faith in Ernie, though.

[skri65]

anyone know asante's condition?

[dhamz]

They had no idea so they made the call that can be reviewed and reversed if they are wrong.

If they call down by contact and were wrong it can't be reviewed.

[PatsWickedPissah]

anyone know asante's condition?

How would we???

[Flying Fungi]

anyone know asante's condition?

no, but we are seeing some fine commercials

delayed gratification issues?

[desi-patsfan]

cheating??? all they did was recover a non fumble.

[MoLewisrocks]

That was a beaautiful jump Asante got - hope he's OK.

This calling the fumble BS has got to stop. That was clearly knee down and there was a zebra lookin' right at it. Just forcing the intercepting team to use a challenge is ballfaced BS.

Oh what is this - the can you be down and then not down argument? His knee was on the ground when the JETS players knee slammed into his head. Just BS reffing.

[pats1]

Pats ball, a bunch of stuff about contact and timing.

[desi-patsfan]

please tell us what happened to asante.

[Box_O_Rocks]

anyone know asante's condition?
Walking on the sideline.

Al Michaels is a tool.

Overturned, NE ball.

[pats1]

Samuel's on the bench looking OK, with a trainer in front of him, and another Pats employee blocking the camera with his hand...

[desi-patsfan]

only asante played everygame in the 2ndary. Did Eugene miss a game somewhere in there?

[MoLewisrocks]

He clearly got his bell rung - could be a concussion. Looked like they were doing the how many fingers test on the sidelines.

[pats1]

Asante got a knee to the side of the head and dropped the ball, but his knee was down.

Since they went to a commerical, we have no clue on how he is.

Ty Law brings it back all the way....

[skri65]

damn you ty

[pats1]

Bad pass by Brady, threw it behind Givens and straight into Law's hand.

[Box_O_Rocks]

damn you ty
Bad play to call against Ty.

[MoLewisrocks]

Well chunky boy gets revenge. He apparently told Madden he could see himself returning to Foxboro since he didn't burn any bridges.... If he loses about 20 lbs. I'd take him up on the offer - but still only at the right price.

[DillNisWillN28]

FUDGE!!!!!!!

And why the hell havent I seen that damn DIET PEPSI machine play once this year!!! What is that guy counting against the cap???

[mikey]

Damm Ty Law

All his interceptions are thrown straight into his hands.

How lucky can this guy get??


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[dhamz]

Well chunky boy gets revenge. He apparently told Madden he could see himself returning to Foxboro since he didn't burn any bridges.... If he loses about 20 lbs. I'd take him up on the offer - but still only at the right price.

He does look very heavy compared to the guy who played here.

[Fanfrom1960]

Bad pass by Brady, threw it behind Givens and straight into Law's hand.

Yes, but a cornerback playing the way he's supposed to, without giving a ton of space to the receiver.

[Box_O_Rocks]

Oh no, I knew this was going to suck with the final Monday Night game replaying all their bad moments.

[pats1]

Steve Neal is sucking big time this year.

I've seen it on tape and during this game already.

[MoLewisrocks]

Enough of this schit. Time for the offense to go regroup on the bench and forget about that INT.

[shmessy]

Steve Neal is sucking big time this year.

I've seen it on tape and during this game already.

You're joking, right?

[pats1]

WBCN says Poteat is in there at RCB.

No word on Samuel yet.

[Box_O_Rocks]

Another botched handoff between Tommy and Cory, offensive timing needs work.

[PatsWickedPissah]

Man, the D is gonna be wicked pissed at Brady for blowing any incentive for a back to back shutout performance

[pats1]

You're joking, right?

I'm really not. He's been going downhill.

He's either injured or really playing smaller than his frame.

[pats1]

WBCN:

Samuel questionable with wind knocked out

Return is questionable.

[Box_O_Rocks]

You're joking, right?
Neal played okay in the first half, I'll need to watch some tape this week and see what Pats1 is seeing.

[pats1]

The most recent Dillon run had Neal losing control of his man and that man making the tackle with Law on the edge.

[Box_O_Rocks]

Hobbs knocked it down!

[skri65]

ah nice play ellis

[pats1]

WBCN:

Bethel Johnson suffers leg injury on kickoff return

Return questionable.

[pats1]

Neal played okay in the first half, I'll need to watch some tape this week and see what Pats1 is seeing.

He's very inconsistent as well.

When he's bad he's really bad, but when he's good it's just usually away from the play.

[Box_O_Rocks]

The most recent Dillon run had Neal losing control of his man and that man making the tackle with Law on the edge.
You could also argue that the play made it hard on Neal to block Vilma who has great lateral speed.

[MoLewisrocks]

Man, the D is gonna be wicked pissed at Brady for blowing any incentive for a back to back shutout performance

No reason the D can't still shut them out. Points scored against the offense aren't their responsibility. There we go, anothe nice 3 and out. If all the JETS can do tonight is score 7 on D we'll be fine going forward.

Come on Tommy, shake it off and start playing like the MVP we all know you are.

[mikey]

Ty Law's interception changed the entire complexion of the game.



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[Flying Fungi]

nice tackle by Stone


Tedy taking a breather--no worries

[skri65]

**** bruschi's hurt

[pats1]

OH ****!!!

BRUSCHI has a left knee injury.

Stands up, is limping like crazy, needs help walking off the field.

The thing gave out, Vrabel fell on top of it, the leg twisting and turning all around.

[Box_O_Rocks]

Nice play by Stone on STs.

Tedy needs help walking off favoring his left leg.

[dhamz]

Tedy can't put any weight on it.

That looks bad.

[MoLewisrocks]

OH CRAP. Vrabel just took Tedy out, and when Tedy doesn't shake it off that is not a good sign.

[Flying Fungi]

Tedy did not look concerned--likely a cramp

[PatsWickedPissah]

This MN game has a bad feel to it

[pats1]

Tedy did not look concerned--likely a cramp

Vrabel fell on top of it.

Bruschi fell to his face as his right leg was crushed by Vrabel and twisted around.

[MoLewisrocks]

Tedy did not look concerned--likely a cramp

What telecast are you watching? I want to switch to that one. He tried to walk off and then asked for help.

[PATSummerallofthe80s]

Tedy did not look concerned--likely a cramp


A cramp???? I hate to tell you but when you get a cramp, you don't need help off the field like he did. I hope you are right.

[tombonneau]

I've never been a fan of playing your top-caliber starters on ST. Isn't that jag Klecko around so guys like Bruschi don't have to play ST??

[DillNisWillN28]

This MN game has a bad feel to it

Were going to be ok!!! One bad play isnt going to kill us

[Seymour93]

****... my uncle, who's a chiropractor, just said he broke his leg.

[DillNisWillN28]

Damn It!!!

[Box_O_Rocks]

Bru on the cart heading out, we'll see what Beisel has learned - he flushed Bollinger at least.

[pats1]

Tedy being taken out on a cart for X-Rays

[dhamz]

A cramp? He's being carted off.

Tedy may be done for the year. Hopefully he isn't but guys who get carted off usually have broken bones or torn ligaments.

[Bill's Girl]

You all know how I feel about BB........however, I cannot help but think he is being too stuborn for our own good by playing his starters in a "meaningless" game.

[pats1]

ELLIS!

The kid's a man.


Hank Poteat helped out.

[DillNisWillN28]

He is playing like a mad man!!!

[MoLewisrocks]

Must be a hell of a cramp if they are taking him off on the cart. I don't like this game at all. Samuel, Bethel, Bruschi..... Make it stop Tommy. At least keep the D off the field for a while.

[PATSummerallofthe80s]

Tedy being taken out on a cart for X-Rays


I hope cramps show up in the xrays LOL....sorry but I couldn't resist.

[skri65]

I hate to be pesimistic, but we cant lose teddy

[AJain]

does chad brown still play...at all?! I mean why play bruschi 90% of the time when we have a couple of guys in NEED of improvement in Chad and Monty?

[DillNisWillN28]

How do you think they discovered gatorade!!!

[tombonneau]

Losing Asante and/or Bruschi for any playoff games makes this game vs. the Jets already a loss, no matter how it shows up on the stats sheet.

[Richter]

Actually, a severe cramp could very well require assistance off the field. Not that I think that's what happened to Tedy, but being helped off the field could be the result of a cramp in general.

Also, Ellis Hobbs is turning into a terrific DB.

[shmessy]

nice tackle by Stone


Tedy taking a breather--no worries

Yeah, he was taking a breather on a cart that was rolling towards the lockerroom.

[Box_O_Rocks]

You all know how I feel about BB........however, I cannot help but think he is being too stuborn for our own good by playing his starters in a "meaningless" game.
Meaningless, no way. Our run game timing sucks between Tommy and Cory, and Cory and the O-line. This team needs work badly.

[scott99]

Maybe we should take out our starters. Samuel (looks like a concussion) & Bruschi (his injury looks scarier, I'd hate to lose him for the playoffs on a damned special teams play) hurt, Brady looks kinda shaky(actually looks crappy), Dillon doesn't look so good. Lets do what the Colts are doing, these games don't mean THAT much. I rather go 9-7 and be relatively healthy. Unfortunately, they just said Bruschi won't be back, so that's a damned tragedy to lose him on a special teams play in a meaningless game. If he's gone for the playoffs, that'll hurt us big time.

[DillNisWillN28]

Holy **** balls!!! This fn sucks the fat one!!!

[Flying Fungi]

I hope cramps show up in the xrays LOL....sorry but I couldn't resist.

guess I'll have to start a whole thread whining about how everyone is being so mean to me

putz

[MoLewisrocks]

You all know how I feel about BB........however, I cannot help but think he is being too stuborn for our own good by playing his starters in a "meaningless" game.

It's not a meaningless game. They still have a shot - a good shot too - at the 3 seed. This isn't Indy - football players play football. The D shouldn't have even been on the field at that moment - the offense needs to get their act back together after that stupid INT and start playing like they did before it.

[DrewWho?]

i loved that line: "if you die they list you as questionable" :)

[DillNisWillN28]

Lets get that guy in the game along with Flutie before we lose every one!!!

[skri65]

Asante will be fine. Bruschi, on the other hand, I dont know.

[Bill's Girl]

As we saw earlier this season, Tedy is to the defense what Tommy is to the offense.....Cripes, this sounds like an SAT question. Point is we cannot afford to lose Tedy!

[AJain]

0 to 60 in 5.5minutes...Corey Dillon.

[Flying Fungi]

Yeah, he was taking a breather on a cart that was rolling towards the lockerroom.

has anyone here actually been injured in an athletic event??

I have blown out a knee and a shoulder, and what I just saw on Bruschi's face was not the look of an extremely injured person

sure as heck want to be right, but I am not a gloom and doom kind of guy anyways...

[PATSummerallofthe80s]

guess I'll have to start a whole thread whining about how everyone is being so mean to me

putz

It got more responses than any of your threads. Still carrying a grudge?

[drewdagreat]

Any word on Tedy yet?

[pats1]

It wasn't a cramp.

Watch the replay.

His leg got crushed.

[DillNisWillN28]

Oh and thanks for the FLAG!!! 1st down

[DrewWho?]

has anyone here actually been injured in an athletic event??

I have blown out a knee and a shoulder, and what I just saw on Bruschi's face was not the look of an extremely injured person

sure as heck want to be right, but I am not a gloom and doom kind of guy anyways...

do not know, he looked pretty upset to me....

[pats1]

Any word on Tedy yet?

None on WBCN.

[PATSummerallofthe80s]

It wasn't a cramp.

Watch the replay.

His leg got crushed.


You are right but according to Dr. Shmessy, it's just a cramp.

[Flying Fungi]

It got more responses than any of your threads. Still carrying a grudge?

I don't post for responses

and why would I possibly have a grudge against a putz?

get over yourself sheila

[MoLewisrocks]

Maybe we should take out our starters. Samuel (looks like a concussion) & Bruschi (his injury looks scarier, I'd hate to lose him for the playoffs on a damned special teams play) hurt, Brady looks kinda shaky(actually looks crappy), Dillon doesn't look so good. Lets do what the Colts are doing, these games don't mean THAT much. I rather go 9-7 and be realatively healthy.

Then what do we do if we play like crap after two weeks off? This team knows it still has a ways to go, and if they can't handle the JETS tonight they will be one and done in the playoffs. Brady looked just fine in the first drive. The entire offense did. They just let Ty get to them, and they need to shake it off and play like a contender.

[DillNisWillN28]

Tedy kept running after it happened if his leg got crushed he would have went down the second it happened

[Box_O_Rocks]

has anyone here actually been injured in an athletic event??

I have blown out a knee and a shoulder, and what I just saw on Bruschi's face was not the look of an extremely injured person

sure as heck want to be right, but I am not a gloom and doom kind of guy anyways...
I sprained my nose in an egg roll once, does that count?

I don't know why everyone is so excited, Klecko is still our secret weapon. :p

[Flying Fungi]

do not know, he looked pretty upset to me....

intense yes, but do you remember the look on Rodney's face?

not the same

[pats1]

From the 3rd offensive series of the Bills game:

1st and 10 NE 20
Result: Pass, Watson, 10 yard hook, 11 yds.

Neal has no man to block due to the zone by the DT, and will slide back to help Gorin as needed


1st and 10 NE 31
Result: Run, Dillon, left guard, 4 yds.

Neal pulls left and drives a LB that moved into the hole out of it, although Neal turns too wide and falls to his face


2nd and 6 NE 35
Result: Pass, Watson, 10 yard out, 10 yds.

Neal will get pushed into the backfield by a DE (actually a DT), but will hold his ground long enough for the pass


1st and 10 NE 45
Result: Pass, Watson, Incomplete, 5 yard drag into the flats.

Neal double teams a DT with Hochstein


2nd and 10 NE 45
Result: Pass, Branch, 20 yard seam, 22 yds.

Hochstein and Neal double team the DT Adams without any penetration


1st and 10 Buf 33
Result: Pass, Brown, 15 yard out, 16 yds.

Neal rides a DT outside and doesn’t allow for penetration


1st and 10 Buf 17
Result: Pass, Watson, 10 yard out, 14 yds.

Neal rides a DT outside before he releases that DT to Hochstein and picks up Hochstein’s DT, whom Neal pushes to the ground


1st and Goal Buf 3
Result: Scramble, Brady, up the middle, 3 yds., TOUCHDOWN.

Hochstein and Neal double team a DT off the snap but semi-release him on the scramble, but don’t allow the DT to get near Brady


And the 4th offensive series:


1st and 10 NE 14
Result: Pass, Givens, 5 yard out, 5 yds.

Neal will tap a DT inside to Hochstein before breaking back out to check the stunting DE from other side of the line, who wasn’t a threat


2nd and 5 NE 19
Result: Run, Dillon, up the middle, 8 yds.

Neal holds a DT pretty tight but loses control and looks weaker, allowing the DT to slide into the hole and get a dive/slight hit on Dillon just before the tackle


1st and 10 NE 27
Result: Pass, Desperation shovel under pressure, Dillon underneath, 2 yds.

Neal gets his DT man to one knee before the DT gets back up and Neal pushes him downfield during the throw


2nd and 8 NE 25
Result: Run, Dillon, up the middle, 2 yds.

Neal pulls left and knocks the LB coming off the edge away from Dillon’s run


Those are two fairly good drives where there wasn't too much action for Neal.


But let's go to the 1st, where he was OK, and then the 2nd series:


1st and 10 NE 41
Result: Run, Dillon, left tackle, -1 yd.

Neal pulls behind Mankins and picks up a LB coming in, getting the LB away just in time as Corey comes up from behind


2nd and 11 NE 40
Result: Pass, SACKED, Brady by Schobel, -1 yd.

Neal has a pretty good backside block on a DT, and controls a spin move, for the most part, before Hochstein takes over


3rd and 12 NE 39
Result: Pass, Davis, Incomplete, 25 yard out.

Neal holds a DE fairly well but will get pushed around by the said mass of blockers and rushers


1st and 10 NE 36
Result: Pass, Dillon, screen right, 5 yds.

Neal’s man, the other DT, is able to break outside of Neal and push him into the backfield, but Brady’s throw comes quick enough for this is not a factor


2nd and 5 NE 41
Result: Run, Dillon, right tackle, -4 yds.

Neal can’t contain the other LB blitzing straight at him and blows the block, with the LB wrapping up Dillon behind the line. Neal wasn’t square to the line and was angled as to provide an opening for the blitzer to push Neal aside like a Saloon door


3rd and 9 NE 37
Result: Pass, Watson, Incomplete, 10 yard post.

Neal is faced with a stunting rusher and loses ground, getting pushed right into Brady’s face just before the throw


And the 1st offensive drive of the Jets game (early December):

1st and 10 NE 34
Result: Scramble, Brady, to left sideline, 3 yds.

Neal takes on the DE, and I’m not really sure what happened, but when Gorin pushes that DE to the ground towards Neal, it almost looks like Neal was stumbling and Hochstein grabbed on his sleeve and tugged him away from the DE, who stumbled and made a lunge towards Brady (causing the scramble) but was extinguished by Neal on the ground before being able to reach Brady


2nd and 7 NE 37
Result: Run, Dillon, right guard, 2 yds.

Neal gets help from Hochstein off the snap with a DT, but can’t follow the cut-back swim towards the play by the DT and will fall to his face as the DT somewhat of a tackle (falls on top of Dillon, who is on the ground, tackled by the feet


3rd and 5 NE 39
Result: Pass, SACKED, Brady by Robertson and Thomas, -9 yds.

Neal slides wide to pick up Abraham on the edge, but is unable to get a good block and will fall to his knees. While Abraham did not directly contribute on the sack, Brady noticed Abraham free in his peripheral vision causing the step-up that turned into a sack. However, with two other free blitzers, Brady’s fate was sealed long before Neal was unable to block Abraham

[scott99]

It's not a meaningless game. They still have a shot - a good shot too - at the 3 seed. This isn't Indy - football players play football. The D shouldn't have even been on the field at that moment - the offense needs to get their act back together after that stupid INT and start playing like they did before it.

I agree Mo, but the way the offense is playing, except for the opening drive, this can be a long night for an already injured defense. If they were playing the way they played last week, I'd agree that you keep them in, until the game is in hand. This looks like it could be a very close game, and you know the Dolphins aren't going to just lay down next week. I say keep em healthy, we already lost 2 guys. That in itself should be a message.

[DillNisWillN28]

I dont know about you guys but I dont want to see Pitt if we dont have to

[dhamz]

Tedy kept running after it happened if his leg got crushed he would have went down the second it happened

He tried to but went right back down. Then he tried to walk off and couldn't put any weight on it. Then after sitting for a few minutes he still couldn't and had to be carted to the locker room.

And if that wasn't bad enough, they told ABC Tedy definitely will not return tonight. By contrast, Asante who looks like he got knocked cold was told to ABC as being questionable to return.

[PATSummerallofthe80s]

I don't post for responses

and why would I possibly have a grudge against a putz?

get over yourself sheila

Plus the take rate on my posts being replied to are over 5%. The average for the Board is less than 2% vs views. Not such a putz after all. Maybe it was just beginners luck for me.

[DillNisWillN28]

that was like croud surfing

[pats1]

Vrabel!

AGAIN!

[DrewWho?]

can we stop with QB sneaks 'till playoffs at least!!!

[DillNisWillN28]

Holly **** Ballz He Is The ******* Man!!!

[pats1]

Plus the take rate on my posts being replied to are over 5%. The average for the Board is less than 2% vs views. Not such a putz after all. Maybe it was just beginners luck for me.

Replying to trolls is like poking Colts fans with sticks. It's quite fun.

[JoeSixPat]

Thank goodness I had Vrabel in as my fantasy league TE!

[AJain]

hmm...early round picks on Graham and Watson...and all this time we had Vrabes! Pioli don't know diddley.

[Flying Fungi]

Plus the take rate on my posts being replied to are over 5%. The average for the Board is less than 2% vs views. Not such a putz after all. Maybe it was just beginners luck for me.


seriously now--wtf are you talking about?

[skri65]

i cant take this, we need to know what happened to teddy

[pats1]

WBCN:

Bruschi has leg injury

Went to locker room for X-rays.

OUT for the game.

[Alk]

Do you guys realize there is a chat room?

[DillNisWillN28]

Thank goodness I had Vrabel in as my fantasy league TE!

I have him on my D he is worth 14 pts. BADASSSSSSSSSSS!!!

[Flying Fungi]

Thank goodness I had Vrabel in as my fantasy league TE!

likewise.!

[scott99]

Tedy kept running after it happened if his leg got crushed he would have went down the second it happened

Yeah, it looked completely different than the Rodney Harrison injury. It looked like he was holding his ankle, high up on the ankle. Maybe a slight sprain. I've had sprains, knee injuries (nuthin major, just arthroscopic surgery), and the such, all sports related (for the person posting about sports injuries). If I had to guess, a high ankle sprain, I pray I'm right. He sits down next week and will be ready for the playoffs.

[Flying Fungi]

Do you guys realize there is a chat room?

yes, but the red sox fans leave us alone here

[AJain]

He could not weightbear on his leg...usually knee ligament injuries weaken stability, not weightbearing related....
I think it is an ankle injury...i hope.

[desi-patsfan]

Vrabel!!!!

[Box_O_Rocks]

Anybody know who no. 50 is making that sack?

[pats1]

Do you guys realize there is a chat room?

We do it every week. Too bad.

[pats1]

He could not weightbear on his leg...usually knee ligament injuries weaken stability, not weightbearing related....
I think it is an ankle injury...i hope.

The trainers were feeling his knee/upper shin around on the ground.

[DillNisWillN28]

Timmmmmmmmmy!!!

[AJain]

The trainers were feeling his knee/upper shin around on the ground.
you are right...as long is it is not a fibula, some rest should get him ready in a few weeks. We are lucky tonight, next week...and hopefully Jacksonville aren't ALL THAT.

[scott99]

Watch out for those trainers feeling people up, everybody know they are all pervs, just kidding.

On a serious note, the defense still looks great so far, even without Asante & Bruschi.

[PatsWickedPissah]

Now Tommy Boy drive a stake into the undead and put this game away

[AJain]

Watch out for those trainers feeling people up, everybody know they are all pervs, just kidding.

On a serious note, the defense still looks great so far, even without Asante & Bruschi.
Is there a more woeful offense in this league than the Jets? Mike Greenberg (AM ESPN) said they would not score an offensive TD for the last 7wks of the season...atleast a meaningful one. I don't thing the JETS are a guage for any defense.

[shmessy]

You are right but according to Dr. Shmessy, it's just a cramp.

Get your facts right. I never intimated that. I was joking to Flying Fungi who originally wrote it.

Perhaps all those folks claiming you were a troll the other day were right.

I defended you, saying you probably weren't a troll. Just a mongoloid.

I stand by that tonight.

[Box_O_Rocks]

Lovely screen to Watson. Great blitz pick-up by Faulk.

[scott99]

Interesting play, TE screen to Watson. Nice to see him out there again.

[desi-patsfan]

wow the jets really want us to win tonight. So many penalties.

[pats1]

Reiss reports Asante went to the locker room.

[DillNisWillN28]

Is there a more woeful offense in this league than the Jets? Mike Greenberg (AM ESPN) said they would not score an offensive TD for the last 7wks of the season...atleast a meaningful one. I don't thing the JETS are a guage for any defense.

We should shut this offense down no matter who is on the field. I thinkt he Lions could hold the Jets to 7.

[DillNisWillN28]

I would hate to see that guy coming at me full speed!!!

[AJain]

Reiss reports Asante went to the locker room.
I like Reiss..but he has never said anything except the obvious.

[scott99]

Is there a more woeful offense in this league than the Jets? Mike Greenberg (AM ESPN) said they would not score an offensive TD for the last 7wks of the season...atleast a meaningful one. I don't thing the JETS are a guage for any defense.

I don't know AJain, I believe they put up 28 or 35 against the Raiders (no big deal) and 24 agains the Phins, who have a pretty good defense, and Bollinger had his first 300 yard game. Not a great offense, but they can score some.

[Flying Fungi]

[QUOTE=shmessy] Just a mongoloid.
[QUOTE]

queue Devo :rocker:

[PatsWickedPissah]

What's the NFL record for going & making it on 4th?

[desi-patsfan]

What's the NFL record for going & making it on 4th?
whatever it is, we are gonan beat it tonight. And have the jets gotten a 1st down yet?

[pats1]

whatever it is, we are gonan beat it tonight. And have the jets gotten a 1st down yet?

Nope.

Pats have 12, Jets have 0:

http://nfl.com/gamecenter/teamstats/NFL_20051226_NE@NYJ

[Box_O_Rocks]

I like Reiss..but he has never said anything except the obvious.
Some of us prefer facts to creative writing in our news coverage.

[AJain]

I don't know AJain, I believe they put up 28 or 35 against the Raiders (no big deal) and 24 agains the Phins, who have a pretty good defense, and Bollinger had his first 300 yard game. Not a great offense, but they can score some.

scott,
you're right...they did some pts. up...but come on - no RB, 2 possession receivers who can't get more than 15 yards off the line by the time Bollinger is pickup up his plastered ass from the turf.
I live in NYC...and all they do is talk about the vaunted Jet D...I don't see any of it.

[DrewWho?]

jets plain suck! and they are like $25M over the cap in 2006. ouch!

[Patjew]

whatever it is, we are gonan beat it tonight. And have the jets gotten a 1st down yet?
Don't think so.

Bruschi has me worried sick.

[PATSummerallofthe80s]

Get your facts right. I never intimated that. I was joking to Flying Fungi who originally wrote it.

Perhaps all those folks claiming you were a troll the other day were right.

I defended you, saying you probably weren't a troll. Just a mongoloid.

I stand by that tonight.


And I was joking to you (just the same way you were to Flying Fungi). Why are you so uptight? Cool your Jets, just like the PATS are doing tonight :)

[skri65]

same here, i'm nearly in panic about teddy

[DrewWho?]

1st downs - Pats 13, Jets 0

[shmessy]

And I was joking to you (just the same way you were to Flying Fungi). Why are you so uptight? Cool your Jets, just like the PATS are doing tonight :)

Mangling facts is "joking" to you? Is that the way they do it in the short bus?

[desi-patsfan]

somethign tells me tedy's injury isnt season ending. I think the next time we see him will be the 1st game of the playoffs.

[Box_O_Rocks]

Neal may be struggling, but Tommy sneaks behind him everytime.

[desi-patsfan]

Mangling facts is "joking" to you? Is that the way they do it in the short bus?

Let it go you 2. Just a misunderstanding, lets just talk about our awsome football team.

[PATSummerallofthe80s]

Mangling facts is "joking" to you? Is that the way they do it in the short bus?


Another "Short bus" reference. C'mon Doctor, first you diagnosed a cramp, now you are diagnosing me retarded? Keep the faith brother.

[AJain]

somethign tells me tedy's injury isnt season ending. I think the next time we see him will be the 1st game of the playoffs.
I hope you are right...personally, I'd like to see him make surprise visit in the playoffs.
Why do you think the Pats (BB) are so quiet about injuries? so opposing teams spend time preparing for things...it kills fantasy value (Dillon).

[DillNisWillN28]

Td # 3??? What Do You Think

[scott99]

On a side note fellas (and ladies), I don't know about you guys, but I am rather melancholy about this being the last Monday Night Football game on ABC. I grew up on this stuff, and growing up in NYC, getting to see my beloved Patriots, especially during their good years in the 70's, on Monday Night was a major treat for me. Being a teenager during the 70's, Monday nights were always special. I know it went throught some bad times, but I will always have some fond memories of MNF on ABC. I feel bad for those who aren't able to possibly afford cable, there will be no more MNF for them.

[pats1]

Wrong Borges, per WBCN, put up a sign in the press box next to the booth:

"Suggestion Box: Cover Vrabel"

[DillNisWillN28]

Yeah Baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[desi-patsfan]

corey, corey, corey.

[desi-patsfan]

Wrong Borges, per WBCN, put up a sign in the press box next to the booth:

"Suggestion Box: Cover Vrabel"

that the first good thing wrong has ever written.

[Box_O_Rocks]

Watson, nice seal block on the outside.

[scott99]

Corey Clock Killin Dillon.

[AJain]

On a side note fellas (and ladies), I don't know about you guys, but I am rather melancholy about this being the last Monday Night Football game on ABC. I grew up on this stuff, and growing up in NYC, getting to see my beloved Patriots, especially during their good years in the 70's, on Monday Night was a major treat for me. Being a teenager during the 70's, Monday nights were always special. I know it went throught some bad times, but I will always have some fond memories of MNF on ABC. I feel bad for those who aren't able to possibly afford cable, there will be no more MNF for them.
ESPN should not be on cable anymore...this is a part of American culture. I can't live without it. Even the internet has not been able to dent ESPN like SI has taken a hit...

[pats1]

Fumble On The Kickoff!

Pats Have It!

[desi-patsfan]

yay good job Adam lol.

[Flying Fungi]

Fumble On The Kickoff!

Pats Have It!

dude--you are FAST

[pats1]

James Sanders got it.

[shmessy]

BTW, good news. Bethel was in on that fumble recovery ST play.

[Flying Fungi]

James Sanders with the recovery

[pats1]

dude--you are FAST

My radio is 10-15 seconds ahead.

Brady sacked, Pats recover.

[AJain]

that the first good thing wrong has ever written.
Is it true Borges has an anti-Bill sentiment?

[PATSummerallofthe80s]

ESPN should not be on cable anymore...this is a part of American culture. I can't live without it. Even the internet has not been able to dent ESPN like SI has taken a hit...

I'm looking forward to the halftime tribute to MNF.

[Richter]

Watching the Tedy injury on replay, I'm guessing a high ankle sprain or a fracture. Either would sideline him for at least part of the playoffs, so I hope I'm wrong.

[JoeSixPat]

Geeze - the offense must be exausted... but in a good way

[scott99]

Wow, Jets have zero first downs in the first half.

[shmessy]

Watching the Tedy injury on replay, I'm guessing a high ankle sprain or a fracture. Either would sideline him for at least part of the playoffs, so I hope I'm wrong.

Didn't Randall Gay's high ankle sprain put him on the IR in mid-season?

[Flying Fungi]

My radio is 10-15 seconds ahead.

Brady sacked, Pats recover.

so much for ABC :bricks:

[Flying Fungi]

Is it true Borges has an anti-Bill sentiment?

a smidgen perhaps

[PATSummerallofthe80s]

Does anyone feel bad for Jets fans? The least the NFL could do is allow them to drink beer tonight if they are brave enough to watch this offense.

[pats1]

It might just be a severe ankle twist, as the leg was crushed and twisted...

[scott99]

21-7 at the half, I say we rest the starters now. The Jets can't seem to move offensively.......Flutie or Cassel time. On a side note, Madden & Michaels mentioned that Law coming back to the Pats could be a possibility and that Law said he is still close to the Pats (management & players). What do you guys think ?

[Richter]

Didn't Randall Gay's high ankle sprain put him on the IR in mid-season?

Depends on how serious it is, but a high ankle sprain can be a more serious injury than a broken bone. I lost about 7 weeks of my sophmore lacrosse season to one, and it was easily the most painful and debilitating injury I had ever suffered, from a list that includes a torn patellar tendon, three torn ligaments in my right ankle and a 1.5" deep, 8" long gash on my left leg.

[desi-patsfan]

i just dont understand why its such a big deal that MNF is going from ABC to ESPN. I could understand if MNF was being cancelled or something.,

[AJain]

Does anyone feel bad for Jets fans? The least the NFL could do is allow them to drink beer tonight if they are brave enough to watch this offense.
NEVER. EVER. Feel sorry for Jet or Yankee fans. EVER.

[Richter]

It might just be a severe ankle twist, as the leg was crushed and twisted...

His leg wasn't crushed, I don't know what you were looking at. It buckled under him. If it was really "crushed", whatever that means, he'd have been rolling around screaming in agony.

[Patjew]

21-7 at the half, I say we rest the starters now. The Jets can't seem to move offensively.......Flutie or Cassel time. On a side note, Madden & Michaels mentioned that Law coming back to the Pats could be a possibility and that Law said he is still close to the Pats (management & players). What do you guys think ?
I'd welcome him back. He could shed some pounds and be a big help. Now Lawyer on the other hand...

[Mosi Moose]

NEVER. EVER. Feel sorry for Jet or Yankee fans. EVER.
I couldn't agree with you more. Don't EVER feel bad for them.

[scott99]

i just dont understand why its such a big deal that MNF is going from ABC to ESPN. I could understand if MNF was being cancelled or something.,

Desi,

As I mentioned in an earlier post, some people can't afford cable. I know my mother in law is on a pension and social security, and can't afford cable. She doesn't care about MNF, but what about a guy who has watched it for 36 years and is in the same situation as my mother in law. I don't know the stats, but I doubt 100% of American households have cable. Plus, you can say what you want about Al Michael's color commentators past and present, but I actually like Al Michaels, and consider him a consumate professional. I'll miss him on MNF.

[DrewWho?]

85% of population have cable.. the switch is not a big deal at all. Plus ABC and ESPN are same entity....

[Flying Fungi]

I couldn't agree with you more. Don't EVER feel bad for them.

jets s.uck, yankees s.uck, knicks s.uck


krypton s.ucks

[Box_O_Rocks]

His leg wasn't crushed, I don't know what you were looking at. It buckled under him. If it was really "crushed", whatever that means, he'd have been rolling around screaming in agony.
Concur, he was reaching to block a player off the edge who was going for the punt block, he was extended and twisted his leg awkwardly, at first I thought it was the knee, but you can see him running and then skipping with the pain so it is some kind of weight bearing issue. As Pats1 noted earlier, the trainers where looking just below the left knee.

[Fanfrom1960]

21-7 at the half, I say we rest the starters now. The Jets can't seem to move offensively.......Flutie or Cassel time. On a side note, Madden & Michaels mentioned that Law coming back to the Pats could be a possibility and that Law said he is still close to the Pats (management & players). What do you guys think ?

What I heard Michaels say was that Law didn't burn any bridges on his way out of New England (after saying he could possibly come back). Same type thing.

[AJain]

Is this the end of John Madden? Will he be on ESPN now?

[pats1]

Bethel Johnson hurt again.

They're holding his hand - looks to be just a wind-knocker-outer.

[Richter]

This just in: Nothing broken on Tedy.

[Flying Fungi]

NO FRACTURE for Tedy according to Al

[Seymour93]

Is this the end of John Madden? Will he be on ESPN now?

He's moving to NBC Sunday Night Football.

[DrewWho?]

let 1st offensive unit score TD (to Vrabel naturally) and them pull a plug on them. could be fun to see Flutie run around in this wind.

Also Al just reported #54 does NOT have a fracture..

[Richter]

Concur, he was reaching to block a player off the edge who was going for the punt block, he was extended and twisted his leg awkwardly, at first I thought it was the knee, but you can see him running and then skipping with the pain so it is some kind of weight bearing issue. As Pats1 noted earlier, the trainers where looking just below the left knee.

He also got leg whipped by Vrabel, which is extremely painful.

[PATSummerallofthe80s]

Is this the end of John Madden? Will he be on ESPN now?

Madden moving to Sunday Night Football on NBC next year.

[AJain]

Bethel Johnson hurt again.
Bethel is a baby. Pulled hammies...sore ankles...get up and play. Or, use Dwight full time on returns.

[pats1]

NO FRACTURE for Tedy according to Al

Whew.

Bethel is limping a little bit coming off.

[shmessy]

NO FRACTURE for Tedy according to Al

Thank God. Now let's hope the rest is positive.

[Flying Fungi]

sweet jebus


at the half, NYJ have 28 yds total offense

[Bella*chick]

This just in: Nothing broken on Tedy.

THANK YOU FOR THIS!!!!! :)

[fgssand]

NO FRACTURE for Tedy according to Al

Optimism prevails???

[Flying Fungi]

sweet jebus


at the half, NYJ have 28 yds total offense

time of possession--24 minutes v 6 minutes

17 first downs v 0

[AJain]

THANK YOU FOR THIS!!!!! :)
I have a #24 Patriots jersey...please come back Ty!

[Richter]

This game is really hammering home that the Jets are awful. One of the worst teams I can remember seeing the past 10 years. They're 3 years away from being a threat again.

[Box_O_Rocks]

He also got leg whipped by Vrabel, which is extremely painful.
I didn't see that there was much contact between them, I'll have to watch it again after the game.

I took some time to watch some of Neal's blocks during the half, he looked good to me, holding his blocks and moving his target.

[AJain]

Tonight should have been throw-back night...only unis...and old MNF font...that would be cool. Especially the away Patriots throw-backs...the best uniform ever.

[pats1]

Corey looks to be getting a lot stronger and quicker.

[Box_O_Rocks]

Bethel is a baby. Pulled hammies...sore ankles...get up and play. Or, use Dwight full time on returns.
Jumping Jets fans neighbor, your peeing all sorts of people tonight, is that a NYC hobby?

[desi-patsfan]

Desi,

As I mentioned in an earlier post, some people can't afford cable. I know my mother in law is on a pension and social security, and can't afford cable. She doesn't care about MNF, but what about a guy who has watched it for 36 years and is in the same situation as my mother in law. I don't know the stats, but I doubt 100% of American households have cable. Plus, you can say what you want about Al Michael's color commentators past and present, but I actually like Al Michaels, and consider him a consumate professional. I'll miss him on MNF.

oh sorry, i didnt mean to insult or anything, was just curious. I never even thought about ESPN not being on cable. And on a side note, i like AL. One of my favs for a long time.

[desi-patsfan]

Tonight should have been throw-back night...only unis...and old MNF font...that would be cool. Especially the away Patriots throw-backs...the best uniform ever.

i love the red jerseys with the patriot in a 3 point stance.

[AJain]

Jumping Jets fans neighbor, your peeing all sorts of people tonight, is that a NYC hobby?
does that mean i am being a jerk? sorry...just a little irked by all the guys going down.

[AJain]

i love the red jerseys with the patriot in a 3 point stance.
yes...the red was nice...i like the away (whites) better...they made the old high-flying patriot offenses look faster.

[desi-patsfan]

one more TD and i really think we should bring in backups. I am actually interested to see what Matt can do.

[pats1]

Let's see if they cover Vrabel...

I bet Ashworth gets this one.



Nope! Dillon gets it. Touchdown!

[AJain]

i'd love to see Doug roll out and toss a few.