11-07-2010, 09:38 PM
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In the Starting Line-up
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 2,294
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Re: This teams biggest problem- O'Brien
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Originally Posted by woodheadwow
I have absolutely 0 idea how this guy skates by with so little criticism. He has proven himself a horrible football coach and he needs to be fired. This team cannot overcome our OC and will never win as long as he keeps his job. Here are some of my problems with him (not in order):
1. Predictability.
He almost never runs the ball on 3rd and 2 or higher. When he gets behind or the game gets close, he panics and goes to the spread and uses it almost exclusively, even if it's not working and despite the fact that this team does not have the personnel to be consistently effective with this formation. He seldom throws the ball on 3rd and 1 or less (although today they did run play action on 4th and 1). Also, he tends to show or use his new stuff early in the game so he doesn't have any tricks to go to if he gets in trouble late.
His formations also give away the type of play way too often (run or pass).
2. Too much finesse.
Too many draws, traps, delays, and counters. Lack of balance in the red zone. Abandoning the run WAY too early, even if it's working. At other times, poor or no commitment to the run.
3. He hangs the defense out to dry too often.
No adjustments made for a tired defense, or poor adjustments. Too little emphasis on game management and too much emphasis on quick strike.
Besides these things, I also feel that he struggles to hide certain players' weaknesses and fails to effectively utilize others strengths. And we all know he struggles to make adjustments in game. Overall, he is a terrible coach and needs to be fired.
WW
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First of all, he has taken plenty of criticism on here both this and last year. But the trend is when the team loses he gets criticized, but when they win he gets praised. He has done a good job this year, improving a great deal from last season.
Your predicability point contradicts itself because you said he never runs the ball on 3rd and 2 or higher then you say you want to see them throw the ball on 3rd and 1? The team is terrible in short yardage situations, and definitely cannot run the ball on short yardage situations. Their backs arent short yardage guys. How do his formations give plays away? Makes no sense without evidence for support.
Too much finesse? The Patriots arent a really a run the ball down opposing throats type of team. When did he abandon the run? Today? Tough to run the ball when you are down by 10 points 5 minutes into the game and you cant get more than 3 yards a carry. Lack of balance in the red zone? The Pats have improved a great deal in the red zone from last year.
Hangs the defense out to dry? The offensive players are the ones on the field making the plays. No coordinator designs 3 and outs...
Your post makes no sense at all, you are blaming the wrong guy. The play calling has not been an issue this season at all and O'Brien has improved a lot compared to last year. In my opinion it all starts with the play of the OL. They should be the unit that gets called out.
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