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Unless Pettine changes his stripes, we're going to have 2 Rex Ryan style defenses in the AFCE moving forward. Pettine doesn't have a Revis or Cromartie, though, so I don't know who he'll pivot the gameplan around as of now.
Considering our recent results against a Rex Ryan defense, this could only be considered a good thing.
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Well, you can feel that way if you like, but I am not impressed by someone who has been a DC for something like 9 years and never has had a defense that could be considered good, because his average defenses were better than the guy who got fired before him.
By yuor argument if KCs next HC wins 3 games he is doing a good job.
You claimed he failed. He did not fail in Cleveland or Dallas. At both stops, in two seasons, he led the team to a stronger defense. There's only so much you can usually do in a short period of time, because you're limited by the talent around you.
It seems more likely to be a personality clash type of situation.
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Dallas has to have one of the most underperforming offenses ever.
That's their problem
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The Patriots have been overachievers the past two years. It doesn't have the talent to compensate for injuries, and it wins so much because it puts in 99% effort in the regular season and plays with terrific schemes to mask its deficiencies.
But in the playoffs a good team at 99% will not beat emotional, talented teams that play at 100%. It's what happened against the Giants in 2011 and the Ravens in 2012.
You claimed he failed. He did not fail in Cleveland or Dallas.
Of course he did.
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At both stops, in two seasons, he led the team to a stronger defense. There's only so much you can usually do in a short period of time, because you're limited by the talent around you.
That is a lame excuse. He is paid to coach a good defense not make an excuse that his average or below defense is a good job becuase the guy before did worse when he got fired.
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It seems more likely to be a personality clash type of situation.
Actually it seems like an owner who thinks his defensive coaching was poor. Thats why people who do not achieve get fired, even if they can point to someone else who once did worse.
Personally I wonder if, while firing somebody, Jerry Jones says things like "You have disappointed me for the last time" and "Now you will learn the true price of failure."
Garrett: I'm not sure how we're going to make the playoffs this year.
That would be a big change. DeMarcus Ware would be a full time DE, and probably Anthony Spencer as well, with Jay Ratliffe moving inside. Sean Lee, Dan Connor and Bruce Carter seem better fitted as 4-3 LBs. They need a penetrating DT - wonder if they might try and go after Sheldon Richardson in the draft if Kiffin does sign on.
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You claimed he failed. He did not fail in Cleveland or Dallas. At both stops, in two seasons, he led the team to a stronger defense. There's only so much you can usually do in a short period of time, because you're limited by the talent around you.
It seems more likely to be a personality clash type of situation.
I'd not term Rob Ryan a "failure" either. But I do think personality counts for a lot - and while Rob seemed to be able to keep his mouth shut under Belichick and in other roles, as of late he's been emulating his brother.
That alone isn't necessarily enough to get him fired, but the question remains, is Rob Ryan as a DC getting everything he can out of his Defense - and that's certainly an area where personality enters the equation (with players and other coaches).
None of us know what has gone on behind the scenes but given the fact that he was let go tells us that the feeling in Dallas was that he wasn't doing enough or wasn't fitting in.
The fact that Dallas has been mediocre for 3 seasons, failing to make the playoffs is certainly enough of a reason to consider a change.
I know Rob Ryan remains confident in himself - boasting he'd be unemployed for all of 5 minutes. But last time I checked he's still unemployed, hasn't interviewed for any of the numerous vacancies, and it's been far more than 5 minutes.
So perhaps others look at the Ryan Family Foot in Mouth Disease (insert your own Rex Ryan joke here) and have decided to keep their distance.
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I'd not term Rob Ryan a "failure" either. But I do think personality counts for a lot - and while Rob seemed to be able to keep his mouth shut under Belichick and in other roles, as of late he's been emulating his brother.
That alone isn't necessarily enough to get him fired, but the question remains, is Rob Ryan as a DC getting everything he can out of his Defense - and that's certainly an area where personality enters the equation (with players and other coaches).
None of us know what has gone on behind the scenes but given the fact that he was let go tells us that the feeling in Dallas was that he wasn't doing enough or wasn't fitting in.
The fact that Dallas has been mediocre for 3 seasons, failing to make the playoffs is certainly enough of a reason to consider a change.
I know Rob Ryan remains confident in himself - boasting he'd be unemployed for all of 5 minutes. But last time I checked he's still unemployed, hasn't interviewed for any of the numerous vacancies, and it's been far more than 5 minutes.
So perhaps others look at the Ryan Family Foot in Mouth Disease (insert your own Rex Ryan joke here) and have decided to keep their distance.
The defense was clearly better, and significantly so, in the year without all the injuries. The notion that Ryan failed with the defense there is ridiculous. The offense, meanwhile, declined and stagnated. There's plenty of blame to go around in Dallas, but it should have started with the owner/GM and then gone to the HC/OC, well before it reached the DC.
And most DC jobs are already filled, so it's not surprising that Ryan's not already working with a new team. I feel bad for Cowboys fans, though. They're apparently going to be getting the Tampa 2, which is not a great fit with that team's current defensive personnel.
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There's plenty of blame to go around in Dallas, but it should have started with the owner/GM and then gone to the HC/OC, well before it reached the DC.
And most DC jobs are already filled, so it's not surprising that Ryan's not already working with a new team. I feel bad for Cowboys fans, though. They're apparently going to be getting the Tampa 2, which is not a great fit with that team's current defensive personnel.
Did you see where Jones came out and criticized Ryan in the media. What other owner or GM does this? Fires someone, and then to reassure themselves (I guess) publicly criticizes their former coach.