So I was just checking the Bills forums

[AndyJohnson]

Originally Posted by 1960Pats

All I'd like to see is the Pats team finish number one in the NFL at the end of the season, and I feel that will only happen if they have more balance to their offense. The pass-happy stuff hasn't won a ring for them.

There is a difference between 'pass happy' and exploiting advantages that you have. There are very few teams that can stop even seriously limit the Patriots pass offense. When you add in the position versatility and alignment mismatches, we can often trap the defense into matchups they don't want to be in.
I will agree that we have a tendancy to overlook what might be a bigger mismatch in the running game (blocking really, when the d goes small) but our offense is absolutely not a force the pass offense, it is an offense that forces mismatches and no one has really figured out how to avoid being in a mismatch vs our passing game.
Frankly if you look closely virtually the only way we are stopped on offense is:
-A blown pass blocking assignment, on 3rd down, because we often recover from a 1st down sack to convert
-A poorly executed route/throw on 3rd down. We almost never have no one open or a totally failed play, it is normally just a missed connection or a tipped or dropped ball.
-Failed running 3rd down conversions
-The rare turnover

A pass happy team throws no matter what it faces. A very successful well thought out pass offense creates mismatches to play to their strengths and exploit them.

[patchick]

A legitimate reason for optimism in Buffalo -- here are 12 of their opponents:

Chiefs
Browns
Cardinals
Titans
Colts
Jaguars
Rams
Seahawks
Jets X 2
Dolphins X 2

[AndyJohnson]

Originally Posted by patchick

A legitimate reason for optimism in Buffalo -- here are 12 of their opponents:

Chiefs
Browns
Cardinals
Titans
Colts
Jaguars
Rams
Seahawks
Jets X 2
Dolphins X 2

Bad news for the Bills, they were 1-5 vs the teams on that list they played last year, including being swept by both the woeful Fins and Jets.
Lets not forget this is a team that lost 8 of their last 9,

[Wolfpack]

Originally Posted by upstater1

Against Carolina it did. They broke Super Bowl passing records in that game. No great passing game, no Super Bowl ring.

Obviously you can find individual games from that era where passing saved the day, but fact is that 5 years ago, the Patriots shifted from a defensive minded team to an offensive minded one. They have 3 rings from before the shift, but none since.

Let it be noted that I don't think this was a deliberate strategy to shift from defense to offense. I think it's merely a by-product of the personnel they've had available.

[patchick]

Originally Posted by AndyJohnson

Bad news for the Bills, they were 1-5 vs the teams on that list they played last year, including being swept by both the woeful Fins and Jets.
Lets not forget this is a team that lost 8 of their last 9,

I didn't project a record, or even praise the Bills at all. Just pointing out that their schedule makes for prime dream fodder.

[AndyJohnson]

Originally Posted by Wolfpack

Obviously you can find individual games from that era where passing saved the day, but fact is that 5 years ago, the Patriots shifted from a defensive minded team to an offensive minded one. They have 3 rings from before the shift, but none since.

Let it be noted that I don't think this was a deliberate strategy to shift from defense to offense. I think it's merely a by-product of the personnel they've had available.

Its wrong to say they shifted from defensive MINDED to offensive MINDED.
The philosphy hasn't changed, the quality of the players in those units has.

[AndyJohnson]

Originally Posted by patchick

I didn't project a record, or even praise the Bills at all. Just pointing out that their schedule makes for prime dream fodder.

I know, I was just pointing out that playing a weak schedule is less reason for optimism when you are a weak team.

[j109]

Originally Posted by AndyJohnson

Bad news for the Bills, they were 1-5 vs the teams on that list they played last year, including being swept by both the woeful Fins and Jets.
Lets not forget this is a team that lost 8 of their last 9,

And a big part of that was Fitzpatrick who kind of mysteriously fell apart last year after a pretty strong start. He went 10 TDs/16 INTs and the Bills averaged 15 points in those 8 losses. His performance this year will determine the Bills' year more than anything.

[Wolfpack]

Originally Posted by AndyJohnson

Its wrong to say they shifted from defensive MINDED to offensive MINDED.
The philosphy hasn't changed, the quality of the players in those units has.

The guy who has never been wrong in his life weighs in yet again.

My post makes it clear that the shift came about due to the personnel available. Arguing usage of the terms "offensive MINDED" or "defensive MINDED" is just a silly semantics debate.

AndyJohnson's obsessive need to have the last word coming in 5.....4......3........2..........

[AndyJohnson]

Originally Posted by Wolfpack

The guy who has never been wrong in his life weighs in yet again.

My post makes it clear that the shift came about due to the personnel available. Arguing usage of the terms "offensive MINDED" or "defensive MINDED" is just a silly semantics debate.

AndyJohnson's obsessive need to have the last word coming in 5.....4......3........2..........

Dude I'm wrong a lot.
I'm just responding to your post. It seems to be you who has a problem with any level of disagreement, correction or opinion.