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They got into the playoffs. That's above average, pretty much by definition. The Patriots had better regular seasons and then bowed out without a single win in the playoffs.
Patriots fans used to laugh at the Colts fans about this stuff. Now, many of them are defending it. It's embarrassing to watch. The Jets suck, and they've got a bottom tier QB, but they've been better than the Patriots when it's mattered most during the past 2 seasons.
What I find to be embarrassing is how people have randomly decided to set the parameters of relevancy to the past two playoff games. That's bunk. We have a solid team. This isn't like during the Pete Caroll era where people were expecting another SB trip...and...it...just...wasn't....happening. This current Pats franchise is in good shape. Better than the Jest. And unlike the Jets it's not like the playoffs were the only thing that made the Pats (or their QB) shine in 01-04. They were solid in the reg season too. Won their division. Got a first rd bye. That's a far cry from the Jets.
It's not the early 00's Colts. More like the 80's 49ers; who won 2 SBs....had three years in a row of 1-and-done playoff appearances....and then won 2 more SBs. Why? Cause that's how the playoffs work. Small sample size = unexpected results. It's worked in NE's favor before, it worked against them last year. Fact remains, Pats have a quality team. People are making it sound like NE is the sick man of the NFL. It's such garbage.
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How is it possible that Holmes has a 5 year contract with $24 million guaranteed, and a cap number of only $2.45 mil this season ? The $24 million can't be a future option bonus ( or else it wouldn't be guaranteed ). Doesn't the $24 million guarantee have to be spread over the 5 years of the contract for cap purposes ?
Or is it possible that the future year salaries are guaranteed but not paid up front? Still sounds wrong because if the first year base salary is $1 million, I thought the annual increases in base salary could only go up a certain percentage annually ?
Anyone have any ideas ? Hate watching the Jets manipulate the cap every year. It never seems to catch up with them.
I don't see what about him makes him worth $50 million or anywhere near it. Never had more than 79 catches or 1,250 yards in a season. Played 16 games once. Never more than 8 TDs. Take out 2009, his best year would be 55 rec, 942, 8 TD. And he's 27 already.
Oh I agree, my point was regardless of talent excluded I wouldn't give anyone that kind of contract who could miss a year with one screw up!
What I find to be embarrassing is how people have randomly decided to set the parameters of relevancy to the past two playoff games. That's bunk. We have a solid team. This isn't like during the Pete Caroll era where people were expecting another SB trip...and...it...just...wasn't....happening. This current Pats franchise is in good shape. Better than the Jest. And unlike the Jets it's not like the playoffs were the only thing that made the Pats (or their QB) shine in 01-04. They were solid in the reg season too. Won their division. Got a first rd bye. That's a far cry from the Jets.
It's not the early 00's Colts. More like the 80's 49ers; who won 2 SBs....had three years in a row of 1-and-done playoff appearances....and then won 2 more SBs. Why? Cause that's how the playoffs work. Small sample size = unexpected results. It's worked in NE's favor before, it worked against them last year. Fact remains, Pats have a quality team. People are making it sound like NE is the sick man of the NFL. It's such garbage.
No, it's the early 00's Colts, and I really don't care what someone finds embarrassing when he can't see something that obvious, because I'm talking about the fan base, not the teams.
And the Patriots haven't won a Super Bowl in 7 years now. The 49ers, the team you're trying to equate, never had such a stretch in between SB victories, and their longest drought period was also the period where they changed QBs from Montana to Young. '81/'84/'88/'89/'94 So, I'll reiterate,
Patriots fans used to laugh at the Colts fans about this stuff. Now, many of them are defending it. It's embarrassing to watch.
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Did I miss something or have Jets still not won anything significant. While the Patriots have not won a play-off game the last couple of years they have rebuilt an old Championship caliber team while continuing to win at a high level, and while the Jets have improved significantly by being very aggressive in free agency they haven't achieved anything, and the only reason they aren't in cap hell is a loophole that let them out.
Jets strategy. Sign a bunch of the most expensive players and guarantee a super bowl victory. If and when they don't win a super bowl guarantee it again...and again....and again! The Jests are mostly just talk. Pats will dominate this upcoming season as they have in seasons past.
The Jets are gambling on the 2014 salary cap. They backloaded Holmes' deal. They will backload Asomugha's deal if they get him. They are gambling the salary cap in 2014 will be $161 million or more as was proposed a while back since the new TV deals kick in that year. Of course it could back fire if either Holmes or Asomugha don't live up to their deal and they have to cut them before 2014.
The question will be how it will affect them in 2014 if they have a lot of roster moves. You can argue if the Jets win the Super Bowl in 2011, 2012, or 2013; who cares? It is three years away.
It is tough to push so much money back four seasons and hope the big name contracts will play up to their money level for those three years prior to that year. Also what if the cap the next three years doesn't grow as they expect they could really get themselves in cap jail.
Yes, people have been predicting the Jets will get in cap jail for nearly a decade, but they haven't gamble with the cap like they look to be doing this year. Tannebaum is gambling he fully understands the ramifications of the CBA for the new cap too. He could come out a genius four years from now or an idiot.
It just occurred to me: essentially what the Jets are counting on happening - a huge sudden increase in the salary cap - is precisely what the NFL has been trying to avoid over the last few years by opting out of the old CBA, going through an uncapped year, various lawsuits, and a lockout that was finally resolved about 48 hours ago.
No, it's the early 00's Colts, and I really don't care what someone finds embarrassing when he can't see something that obvious, because I'm talking about the fan base, not the teams.
And the Patriots haven't won a Super Bowl in 7 years now. The 49ers, the team you're trying to equate, never had such a stretch in between SB victories, and their longest drought period was also the period where they changed QBs from Montana to Young. '81/'84/'88/'89/'94 So, I'll reiterate,
Patriots fans used to laugh at the Colts fans about this stuff. Now, many of them are defending it. It's embarrassing to watch.
Well the Colts team you are trying to equate had their first crack at the playoffs in 99 and were 1-and-done, then one-and-done again in 2000, and again in 2002. A little advancement 2003/04. But one-and-done again in 2005. Yet, so much of that six-year time period was spent among the Colts fanbase verbally fellating Manning and his team as the heir apparent. I don't see how our current fanbase is the same. Or even similar. I mean you can claim all you want that "it's the Colts," but...it isn't. At all.
I don't think our fanbase is defending the results of the last two playoff games. However, what I think they are defensive about is the idea that 2 consecutive one-and-done years must be indicative of something far, far worse. Good for them, cause it's nonsense. The current situation is far more in line with those 80s-49ers than the 00s-Colts.
BTW - I don't want to make it sound like I think it's a given that this team will rattle off two more SBs like the 49ers. Just that 2 one-and-done years does not dissuade me on that idea one bit.
BTW, BTW - Considering those Colts went on to win a SB and get back to another, I'd say that even further diminishes the perceived importance of any previous one-and-done seasons. If our fanbase should be ashamed of something, it's shouldn't be because we are currently defending this Pats team. However, it should be because we laughed-off the Colts as being "chokers" when there was still football history left to be written. This same logic applies to Jets fans who think that the Pats must be "done" because of two playoff games. It's some pretty poor logic.
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