Jets owner wants change of time for September Jewish Holiday games - New England Patriots Forums

PATRIOT64 · 04-16-2009, 11:13 PM

Don't think they will change the time of the Jets NE game on Sept 20th but the owner is upset ... and in reality,its bonafide understandable

Jets owner upset games fall during Jewish holidays -- Newsday.com

***CampPen33*** · 04-16-2009, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by PATRIOT64

Don't think they will change the time of the Jets NE game on Sept 20th but the owner is upset ... and in reality,its bonafide understandable

Jets owner upset games fall during Jewish holidays -- Newsday.com

He is just scared that his new defense is going to get moiwdered.

PATRIOT64 · 04-16-2009, 11:19 PM

I am not sure of how orthodox Mr. Kraft is but he can't be thrilled of the NE/Jets game time on Rosh Hashanah either.

***BradyFTW!*** · 04-16-2009, 11:25 PM

I understand that it's not at all the same in terms of magnitude, but playing virtually all of your games on the "day of rest" would seem to indicate that the NFL doesn't care too much about stuff like this.

***spacecrime*** · 04-16-2009, 11:30 PM

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I understand that it's not at all the same in terms of magnitude, but playing virtually all of your games on the "sabbath" would seem to indicate that the NFL doesn't care too much about stuff like this.

That was my thought. Games are played every Sunday, aren't they?

A couple years ago when Christmas fell on a Monday, they not only played MNF but added a second game to make it a Christmas double header.

Just a bunch of "oh poor me, the world is out to get us" whining

Just play football

PATRIOT64 · 04-16-2009, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BradyFTW!

I understand that it's not at all the same in terms of magnitude, but playing virtually all of your games on the "sabbath" would seem to indicate that the NFL doesn't care too much about stuff like this.

Incorrect .... The 'sabbath' in the Jewish religion is from sundown Friday to sundown saturday night - Sunday games are not involved unless you are going by the Catholic/Christian faith and in christianity, I am not sure of how strict the religion guidelines are pertaining to this

I know this,I am one of those Jews who did this all my childhood

jmt57 · 04-16-2009, 11:34 PM

Seems like something that should have been dealt with internally within the NFL rather than deflecting blame publicly. The problem now is that if the NFL changes the schedule they will have set a precedent, and 31 other fan bases will expect the same treatment. This should have been resolved behind closed doors, rationalized by 'travel arrangements' and 'prior commitments'.

Perhaps this is a downside of the NFL attempting to make the release of the NFL schedule a huge media and fan event, on par with the NFL draft? I'm guessing that if this happened in years past the Jets would have complained and the schedule would have been re-worked before being made public.

Some of the problem is that the NFL wants to turn announcements like this in to big events, but the 32 teams have proven that they are unable to keep the information under non-disclosure. If all 32 teams - including the Jets - could prove to the NFL that they were trustworthy with information, then the NFL could share and discuss information with those teams.

***BradyFTW!*** · 04-16-2009, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by PATRIOT64

Incorrect .... The 'sabbath' in the Jewish religion is from sundown Friday to sundown saturday night - Sunday games are not involved unless you are going by the Catholic/Christian faith and in christianity, I am not sure of how strict the religion guidelines are pertaining to this

I know this,I am one of those Jews who did this all my childhood

Ahh, okay, I'm not religious so I don't really know any of this stuff. Thanks for the correction. I do know that Sunday is considered the day of rest in Christianity though, which the NFL doesn't seem to care too much about.

jmt57 · 04-16-2009, 11:46 PM

Of course if I wanted to be cynical, where do New Yorkers get off on assuming they should be the only ones that have the NFL schedule modified to fit their schedule? Or that New York is the only NFL city that has fans of the jewish faith? (PJ, this is a cue for you!)

Of course there are more jews in New York City than in any other american city; did the author of the article ever consider that the fact that New York City is the most populated city in the USA may have something to do with that? I am also willing to bet there are more catholics, more italians, more puerto ricans, etc. in NYC; that comment and reasoning is useless.

Deus Irae · 04-16-2009, 11:59 PM

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Of course if I wanted to be cynical, where do New Yorkers get off on assuming they should be the only ones that have the NFL schedule modified to fit their schedule? Or that New York is the only NFL city that has fans of the jewish faith? (PJ, this is a cue for you!)

Of course there are more jews in New York City than in any other american city; did the author of the article ever consider that the fact that New York City is the most populated city in the USA may have something to do with that? I am also willing to bet there are more catholics, more italians, more puerto ricans, etc. in NYC; that comment and reasoning is useless.

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The New York metropolitan area is home to the largest number of Jews outside Israel. There are more Jews within New York City limits than within Jerusalem city limits, making the New York City Jewish community the largest such community in the world. About 12% of New Yorkers claim to be Jewish or of Jewish descent

This is from Wikipedia because I'm not in the mood to hunt down the census numbers.