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***Deus Irae*** · 01-19-2009, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Triggerfish

Now, I KNOW you Pat's fans hate Pittsburgh, and ya know...the feelings are mutual from most Steeler fans. So I can live with that. I also know, that due to your hatred of the Steelers, you'll look for ANYTHING to ***** and whine about, which by the way is kinda pathetic. I also know that most Pat's fans, whether they would admit it or not, are jealous of the Steelers superior defense. So, I guess this thread makes perfect sense based on all of that. Suprisingly, there are a few of you on this thread who see things clearly, without clouded judgement, and KNOW the game of football. The hit was clean. There will be no punishment. So, you all can quit talking about that now. He attempted to lead with his right shoulder, although Willis kinda "turned into the hit", which resulted in the helmets colliding. Was it a "viscious" hit? Absolutely, but that's the game a football, and the defender's objective is to STOP the ball-carrier, not gently direct him to the ground.

With all that being said PatsFanInEagleLand....you are a DISGRACE to football fans everywhere, and really just a sad, pathetic human being. WISHING players to be carted off the field?! Really? It takes a certain level of ignorance just to THINK something like that, but a whole other level to POST it publicly. Unbelievable. I suppose we all should expect this from you, since your a Pats fan (who HATES all things Steelers) and living in "Eagle's land", which has the most ridiculous, hateful fans in the country. Stick to booing Santa dude. It's still pathetic, but at least you're not actually hoping for physical harm to athletes.

'Your' safety deliberately led with his helmet, went helmet-on-helmet with an opposing player, and caused the guy to be carted off the field. You can ballwash the guy all you want, but it doesn't change the fact that he's a dirty player. Acting as if it's about jealousy is just stupid.

Triggerfish · 01-19-2009, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Deus Irae

'Your' safety deliberately led with his helmet, went helmet-on-helmet with an opposing player, and caused the guy to be carted off the field. You can ballwash the guy all you want, but it doesn't change the fact that he's a dirty player. Acting as if it's about jealousy is just stupid.

Acting as if all of your whining about the Steeler's defense ISN'T about jealousy is just stupid. You know damn well if Clark were a Patriot, you'd be the first one saying the hit was clean (which it was). I'm not ball-washing by any means. In fact, I agree that the hit on Welker was ridiculous, and he deserved punishment. It was stupis and unnecessary. But, THIS hit wasn't the same. I mean, I get it. Pats fans are still sore about that Welker hit, so they wanna criminalize every hard hit he makes now. I can see that, from a fan's prospetive. But honestly, I initially thought the thread was kinda "funny", certainly NOT because McGahee got hurt, but because Pats fans are already crying about it. To me, it crossed the line when someone starts calling for Clark to be "carted off the field" in the Super Bowl. I would have gladly just lurked on this thread and took it for what it's worth, but when people say stupid stuff like PatsFanInEagleLand did, I think they need to be called out. So I did. I know I'll take some crap for it, and whatever....have at it. BUT, do you think remarks like his are a good representation of all of you, as Pats fans? I hope not.

***Deus Irae*** · 01-19-2009, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Triggerfish

Acting as if all of your whining about the Steeler's defense ISN'T about jealousy is just stupid. You know damn well if Clark were a Patriot, you'd be the first one saying the hit was clean (which it was). I'm not ball-washing by any means. In fact, I agree that the hit on Welker was ridiculous, and he deserved punishment. It was stupis and unnecessary. But, THIS hit wasn't the same. I mean, I get it. Pats fans are still sore about that Welker hit, so they wanna criminalize every hard hit he makes now. I can see that, from a fan's prospetive. But honestly, I initially thought the thread was kinda "funny", certainly NOT because McGahee got hurt, but because Pats fans are already crying about it. To me, it crossed the line when someone starts calling for Clark to be "carted off the field" in the Super Bowl. I would have gladly just lurked on this thread and took it for what it's worth, but when people say stupid stuff like PatsFanInEagleLand did, I think they need to be called out. So I did. I know I'll take some crap for it, and whatever....have at it. BUT, do you think remarks like his are a good representation of all of you, as Pats fans? I hope not.

The Welker hit has nothing to do with the hit last night. Last night, the replay clearly showed him go helmet to helmet. As for jealousy, why the hell would I be jealous of the Steelers? I'm a Patriots fan, which means that the team I cheer for has won 3 Super Bowls this decade, has been to 4 in that time, and would probably have been to, and won, another this season if Brady hadn't gone down.

As for his remarks, actually, I hope that Clark is suspended for the Super Bowl. That's what his actions merit.

PatsFanInEaglesLand · 01-19-2009, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Triggerfish

Acting as if all of your whining about the Steeler's defense ISN'T about jealousy is just stupid. You know damn well if Clark were a Patriot, you'd be the first one saying the hit was clean (which it was). I'm not ball-washing by any means. In fact, I agree that the hit on Welker was ridiculous, and he deserved punishment. It was stupis and unnecessary. But, THIS hit wasn't the same. I mean, I get it. Pats fans are still sore about that Welker hit, so they wanna criminalize every hard hit he makes now. I can see that, from a fan's prospetive. But honestly, I initially thought the thread was kinda "funny", certainly NOT because McGahee got hurt, but because Pats fans are already crying about it. To me, it crossed the line when someone starts calling for Clark to be "carted off the field" in the Super Bowl. I would have gladly just lurked on this thread and took it for what it's worth, but when people say stupid stuff like PatsFanInEagleLand did, I think they need to be called out. So I did. I know I'll take some crap for it, and whatever....have at it. BUT, do you think remarks like his are a good representation of all of you, as Pats fans? I hope not.

McGahee was carted off the field because of a dirty hit, yeah I feel he deserves the same thing he dished out. Let the punishment fit the crime. It is obvious they are taught this by their coach, I hope he gets what is coming to him to, Barry Switzer, Jr is a thug and his players are dirty.

Triggerfish · 01-19-2009, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Deus Irae

The Welker hit has nothing to do with the hit last night. Last night, the replay clearly showed him go helmet to helmet. As for jealousy, why the hell would I be jealous of the Steelers? I'm a Patriots fan, which means that the team I cheer for has won 3 Super Bowls this decade, has been to 4 in that time, and would probably have been to, and won, another this season if Brady hadn't gone down.

As for his remarks, actually, I hope that Clark is suspended for the Super Bowl. That's what his actions merit.

Concerning the hit, I guess we'll just agree to disagree. Yes, their helmets collided, but there's a difference between a hit in which helmets collide, and LEADING with the helmet. He turned his body and attempted to lead with the right shoulder. Should there be punishment everytime two player's helmets collide? Because that would be every play.

I don't think you're jealous of the Steelers, just their defense. You don't wish the Pat's defense was as good as Pittsburgh's (#1)?? I love the Steelers, but I wish their offense were more like the Pats. That's not saying I'm a Pats fan or jealous of the TEAM. I just know a good thing when I see it, and wish the same for my team.

As far as the comments made by PatsFanInEagleLand....they were pathetic. Plain and simple. No other way to describe it. Saying that you hope a player gets SUSPENDED for a game isn't even close to the same thing, and obviously I don't have a problem with that.

TedyB54 · 01-19-2009, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Triggerfish

To me, it crossed the line when someone starts calling for Clark to be "carted off the field" in the Super Bowl. I would have gladly just lurked on this thread and took it for what it's worth, but when people say stupid stuff like PatsFanInEagleLand did, I think they need to be called out.

All this coming from the same fan base that specifically made a t-shirt celebrating Brady's knee injury. Classy folks you got down there in Steeltown.

If Clark was on the Patriots and laid that hit on a Steeler, you'd be complaining that he was dirty.

Rodney hears it all the time and I haven't seen him drill someone that hard ever.

***ctpatsfan77*** · 01-19-2009, 11:05 AM

PFT has a video up, which will probably get taken down by the No Fun League in a few hours.

But while it's up, you can be the judge.

And, BTW, I agree with Florio on two things, and would add one more:
(1) "Clark should be suspended for the Super Bowl. Period."
(2) Someone on the sound crew for the Steelers should be fired (listen to the background of the video after the collision).
(3) The Steelers as a team should be fined for this, too.

Triggerfish · 01-19-2009, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by PatsFanInEaglesLand

McGahee was carted off the field because of a dirty hit, yeah I feel he deserves the same thing he dished out. Let the punishment fit the crime. It is obvious they are taught this by their coach, I hope he gets what is coming to him to, Barry Switzer, Jr is a thug and his players are dirty.

Dude, everytime you post, you just sound more and more pathetic. You can't justify your comments. No use even trying. Bottom line...there is NO circumstance in which it's ok to wish physical injury to a player. But, I suppose you just don't get that concept, so whatever. I'm sure you were super-pissed about the Pollard shirt, right? The guy who made that shirt is scum, but your comments don't make you any better.

Triggerfish · 01-19-2009, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by TedyB54

All this coming from the same fan base that specifically made a t-shirt celebrating Brady's knee injury. Classy folks you got down there in Steeltown.

If Clark was on the Patriots and laid that hit on a Steeler, you'd be complaining that he was dirty.

Rodney hears it all the time and I haven't seen him drill someone that hard ever.

I'm the LAST guy you'll find sticking up for that bum who made the Pollard shirt. It's a disgrace to the Steeler's fanbase and a pathetic display of ignorance. As a Steelers fan, I wouldn't EVER want to be associated with someone like him. Kinda like PatsInEagleLand's comment.

And just for the record, NO I wouldn't be complaining if that hit were laid on a Steeler. The Steelers hit hard, which is why they're a top-notch defense, so teams SHOULD hit the Steelers hard in return! As long as it's a legal hit, I don't have a problem with it, regardless of who it is. The game of football is a physical, violent game....love it or hate it. Sometimes players get injured, which is unfortunate, but expected in a game like this. So, as they say, don't hate the player, hate the game. As a fan of the GAME, I understand that injuries like this happen.

Yehoodi · 01-19-2009, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by jcdavey

clark led with the shoulder

it's clear as day lol

i mean look at it, he's leading with his shoulder, it's obvious

i think you're just letting your hatred for the guy cloud your sensibilities

i noticed you selected the rear shot where you can't see Clark's helmit hit Willis helmit, nice try though. Next time you might want to post the shot from the other angle that shows the helmit to helmit hit and same being the FIRST contact between the two players and the CONTACT that cause Willis head to snap back . . . this is what happens when people have selective viewing of an incident . . .