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The likelihood is that we will see change in all of these areas - rules to reduce the violence but keep the strategy, athleticism, and speed; equipment improvements; and legal liability limitations. None of the three will solve the problem alone, but together they will get close.
The one comment in all that's said above that really makes me think is the one about class distinctions. My son (6'4", 225) was a high school sprinter, javelin thrower, basketball player, and state volleyball MVP on a championship team. He had a great time with high school athletics. In college, he did all of that again.
The college football coach tried to recruit him to play, and he came to me for advice. My comment: "Will playing football be more likely to enhance your future life, or limit it?" It didn't take him long to answer it. He went on to grad school and a career using his head (brains). He's recently quit his job at the White House and is motorcycling around the world, which he considers less dangerous than playing college football.
I suspect that will be the question that divides the haves and have nots - is football more likely to enhance your life or limit it?
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I love football and played at a very high level through college. I did have 3 or 4 concussions and have memory loss from two of them where it was as if I woke up sometime later and donít remember what happened. My son who would have easily been playing in college if he took up football, was never that interested and I never brought it up ever. If I had said to him that he should play he would have. He mentioned playing a few times but I never responded. Didnít tell him no but I didnít say thatís a good idea either.
Whats my point? There will be no middle class or above playing football and it will just be the poor. There will be enough players as long as they donít expand the league. Someone is going to die in the game soon. The players are just too fast and too strong and the consistency of a brain is the same if you are 100lbs or 350. Look at boxing which is another sport I loved. In the 60s-80s it was huge. Can you even name a current boxer now?
Most people who don't even watch boxing know who Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather jr are. The problem boxing is suffering from now is a lack of a great heavyweight American fighter like a Tyson. The heavyweight division is almost irrelevant today with the dominance of the Klitchko brothers and their less than appealing style.
It's off season and this may be an extreme viewpoint but with the threads about Goodell wanting to eliminate kickoffs and the myriad rule changes ongoing and as we learn more about the science of concussions, I would not take the bet against this. Then I'll probably not be here in 20 years.
Not if you play football, you probably won't.
Perhaps boxing is the example that football will follow. It still exists, but name me the heavyweight champion of the world (a silly title if there ever was one). MMA is sort of boxing, but it is hardly as popular as boxing was in the 40ies, 50ies and 60ies and those pictures of bloodied, broken fighters don't help.
When it finally sinks in that we are getting immense pleasure from watching huge, talented men maim themselves and their opponents, I think football will morph--through disgust, guilt and legislation into a faint shadow of its present self.
this is horrible...you mean someone may even die soon??? that's it...OUTLAW the NFL immediately!!!..."...hic...hey buddy, you got a light???...thansk pal...hey barkeep, what's the damages???...8 Buds?...hey wait a minute, I only had six...wasshatalkinaboud, man....wheresh my keys?..i gotta get outta here fast...."
peopel smoke and drink to the tune of a million + deaths a year...I don't see anyone outlawing the tobacco or liquor industries...playing NFL football is a conscious choice...every player knows the pros and cons...the league will disappear when people put more value on their health than making millions of dollars...which means ,most likely, never....
Or that 40,000 people a year die in car accidents, which we consider an acceptable number for the convenience of our cars. It's the same thing we were talking about in the other thread, though - sensationalism versus statistics. We'll have extremely tight and inconveniencing (and expensive) security and rules in airports, sporting events, etc. or a country where our government collects all our data on a massive scale and houses in on servers in Nevada to maybe save a handful of lives (maybe - it may never happen, it may not save anyone) every few years yet we're willing to keep driving cars and smoking cigarettes and those claim exponentially more on a daily basis.
Look, the NFL has done good things to improve player safety and could probably do more. Science needs to look into ways to prevent concussions. The league needs to improve options for retired players, and not just start it at age 50 or 65. But I think it's being more than a little sensationalist to suggest that football will be gone in 20 years.
FWIW, don't forget that in 1905 (before the NFL existed), 18 athletes died from football injuries.
That contributed to a movement to ban football outright (the New York Times, at the time, called it a "curable evil").
But in came Teddy Roosevelt, who convened a meeting where the college folk agreed to make some major changes to make the game less rugby-like. The most notable of those: the legalization of the forward pass.
IOW, football's adapted before. If it has to change to survive, it will.
"Momentum was quickly snatched away by New England, who once again proved that any Patriot, at any moment, can make a play." óInside the NFL, Packers v. Patriots
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Personally, I see the NFL embracing technology in a bid to improve safety on the field.
In addition to helmets and shoulder pads, hip pads, etc, I can see a type of "flak jacket" made like modern Dragon Scale armor, with a hard shell surface and dense-foam padding beneath, like shoulder pads. Very flexible yet very protective of the torso. Similar pieces for the upper and lower legs, arms, etc. Not limiting of movement, or adding much weight, but helping to prevent fractures, ruptured spleens, sports hernias, etc. In fact, it wouldn't be at all out of the realm of possibility to develop a free-moving device on the back of the helmet that looks like a neck roll, or soft tail, that hardens under pressure when hit, keeping the helmet from being forced back or to the side more than a specific amount, thus preventing neck strains and potential C-series fractures. Kid's already have a toy clay that does the same thing. It's soft and pliable until you squeeze it, when it becomes firm and solid.
I can definitely see moves towards the tech/equipment area before any sort of decline in the NFL begins.
Having said that, we have to understand that football, like track & field, swimming, boxing, wrestling, etc, are all just pandering to our base instincts for competition and warfare. The Olympic games, and the sports they began with, like javelin, discuss, running, wrestling, boxing, etc, were all training for war. It was a way then, and is now, of showing our potential for combat through the actions of the best warriors. Sports, at it's most basic level, is a blood sport without the maiming and death. It's always been that, and it always will.
There's a reason that the modern NFL, boxing, wrestling, etc, all look so much like the arenas of ancient Rome, that the phrase "gladiator" is used so often. It's who we are as a race, it's in our genetic makeup, and attempts to lesson that go against the basic grain of our personalities. We do so at the risk of depressing our abilities to defend ourselves in the future.
Now, that's all probably better suited to another thread here, but that's my argument against the further dilution of football. We can embrace technology, but in the end, it, like all sports, is a violent thing and it's an outlet that society needs.
Folks need note that relatively bigger industries have vanished in similar 2 decade timeframes.
Can you name a few $10B industries that vanished in two decades?
All I can think of are print newspapers (still alive but dying), and record industry. But newspapers didn't vanish, they just morphed into a bigger cash cow (internet), and if the record industry is now the recording industry. THeir 'death' was also stupidity in not embracing a new way of doing business. I doubt the NFL will rigidly stick to a format that is dying. If nothing else, they are business savvy.
Oh, maybe bookstores? They're still around. Borders is gone, but then so is the USFL and the XFL.
Video rental stores?Again, the base product (movies) remained. Only the format changed. Adapt or die. I think the NFL will adapt.
ďWhen we look at the board, based on everything we want in a football player at that particular time, we evaluate them and take the player that fits best for our football team. Thatís what we always do, and I think the last nine years weíve put a pretty competitive team out there on the field every year. I think thatís how you do it Ė you get good football players. Sometimes they are not always at the No. 1 position, but I donít think you pass up good football players to get the guys who arenít as good just because theyíre at a position that somebody feels you need.Ē
BB on his draft philosophy, April 2010