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Old 07-29-2008, 09:41 PM   #1
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I attended camp this evening and would like to offer a more detailed positional report.

Linebacker: With all due respect Mr. Reiss, the dominant pass rusher at tonight's session during the two minute drill was Rookie Crable. He would have sacked Brady twice , once outside with a speed move, and the other inside with a juke to the outside and a power move inside. His length and stride are sights to behold. He is noticeably taller than other player listed at 6'5" including Woods, Warren and O'Connell. Interestingly, in long yardage and two minute sets Crable was rushing from the outside and Adalius was jumping around on the inside-rushing, and in coverage. I suspect Mr. Reiss may have confused 96 and 98. Tedy showed surprising quickness during one on one RB/TE coverage drills and unlike last year when he was replaced on 3rd down, he was playing on passing downs. Mr. Reiss missed the key point in the Watson seam drop in the endzone. Rookie Mayo after giving Watson a full step off the line showed amazing catch up speed and forced the customary Watson drop. Woods showed no push or edge ability against second tier tackles Britt and O'Callahan. Guyton is this year's clear winner of UDFA of the year award (aka the Alexander/ Gay/Wright/ Woods/Guitierrez trophy). Good size, quickness, positional flexibility and a special team starter on kick and punt coverage teams. He played inside and out and displayed quickness at both, set the edge on two sweeps, will likely start on kick and punt coverage. Ruud and Redd both MIA. Adalius is playing all snaps and is my candidate (not Bruschi) for the green dot helmet. I would guess tthat Vrabel will back-up the Green Dot. Hobson has no coverage ability or quickness. He will lose his spot to Guyton. Izzo is of course not a linebacker but in punt team practice Aiken , not Izzo, played a number of snaps at signal caller/ safety blocker. To me, that suggests Izzo is at risk as Aiken ascends, bigger, stronger and a red zone back-up receiver. The reader may think a comparison of Aiken and Izzo inapposite, but as prime special team candidates they are absolutely competing for a ST slot in the mind of BB.

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Old 07-29-2008, 09:57 PM   #2
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I attended camp this evening and would like to offer a more detailed positional report.

Linebacker: With all due respect Mr. Reiss, the dominant pass rusher at tonight's session during the two minute drill was Rookie Crable. He would have sacked Brady twice , once outside with a speed move, and the other inside with a juke to the outside and a power move inside. His length and stride are sights to behold. He is noticeably taller than other player listed at 6'5" including Woods, Warren and O'Connell. Interestingly, in long yardage and two minute sets Crable was rushing from the outside and Adalius was jumping around on the inside-rushing, and in coverage. I suspect Mr. Reiss may have confused 96 and 98. Tedy showed surprising quickness during one on one RB/TE coverage drills and unlike last year when he was replaced on 3rd down, he was playing on passing downs. Mr. Reiss missed the key point in the Watson seam drop in the endzone. Rookie Mayo after giving Watson a full step off the line showed amazing catch up speed and forced the customary Watson drop. Woods showed no push or edge ability against second tier tackles Britt and O'Callahan. Guyton is this year's clear winner of UDFA of the year award (aka the Alexander/ Gay/Wright/ Woods/Guitierrez trophy). Good size, quickness, positional flexibility and a special team starter on kick and punt coverage teams. He played inside and out and displayed quickness at both, set the edge on two sweeps, will likely start on kick and punt coverage. Ruud and Redd both MIA. Adalius is playing all snaps and is my candidate (not Bruschi) for the green dot helmet. I would guess tthat Vrabel will back-up the Green Dot. Hobson has no coverage ability or quickness. He will lose his spot to Guyton. Izzo is of course not a linebacker but in punt team practice Aiken , not Izzo, played a number of snaps at signal caller/ safety blocker. To me, that suggests Izzo is at risk as Aiken ascends, bigger, stronger and a red zone back-up receiver. The reader may think a comparison of Aiken and Izzo inapposite, but as prime special team candidates they are absolutely competing for a ST slot in the mind of BB.

Respectfully submitted, The Dookfish

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Good post sir.
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Thanks! Tons of insight here. Considering Aiken's past special teams exploits and even the fact that he is building somewhat of a rapport with Brady seems to point to him making the team (even if it means the cut of Lizzo).

Note: This is essentially the same thought proposed (albeit more vehemently) in another thread. I just happen to agree.

It's also great to hear about Guyton and Crable. I love seeing these young linebackers develop. It seems like the first time we've heard anything positive about a rookie linebacker...

Also, I apologize for the excessive vocab., I'm in the middle of some GRE prep.
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I attended camp this evening and would like to offer a more detailed positional report.

Linebacker: With all due respect Mr. Reiss, the dominant pass rusher at tonight's session during the two minute drill was Rookie Crable. He would have sacked Brady twice , once outside with a speed move, and the other inside with a juke to the outside and a power move inside. His length and stride are sights to behold. He is noticeably taller than other player listed at 6'5" including Woods, Warren and O'Connell. Interestingly, in long yardage and two minute sets Crable was rushing from the outside and Adalius was jumping around on the inside-rushing, and in coverage. I suspect Mr. Reiss may have confused 96 and 98. Tedy showed surprising quickness during one on one RB/TE coverage drills and unlike last year when he was replaced on 3rd down, he was playing on passing downs. Mr. Reiss missed the key point in the Watson seam drop in the endzone. Rookie Mayo after giving Watson a full step off the line showed amazing catch up speed and forced the customary Watson drop. Woods showed no push or edge ability against second tier tackles Britt and O'Callahan. Guyton is this year's clear winner of UDFA of the year award (aka the Alexander/ Gay/Wright/ Woods/Guitierrez trophy). Good size, quickness, positional flexibility and a special team starter on kick and punt coverage teams. He played inside and out and displayed quickness at both, set the edge on two sweeps, will likely start on kick and punt coverage. Ruud and Redd both MIA. Adalius is playing all snaps and is my candidate (not Bruschi) for the green dot helmet. I would guess tthat Vrabel will back-up the Green Dot. Hobson has no coverage ability or quickness. He will lose his spot to Guyton. Izzo is of course not a linebacker but in punt team practice Aiken , not Izzo, played a number of snaps at signal caller/ safety blocker. To me, that suggests Izzo is at risk as Aiken ascends, bigger, stronger and a red zone back-up receiver. The reader may think a comparison of Aiken and Izzo inapposite, but as prime special team candidates they are absolutely competing for a ST slot in the mind of BB.

Respectfully submitted, The Dookfish

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EXCELLENT details. I was there and posted a WICKED PISSAH report about Crabs in the 2008 Training Camp section of this website.

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-...226#post944226


I thought Crabs was harrassing mostly Cassel, but whatever. He was huge. I agree with your Mayo, Woods and Guyton observations completely although I'm not ready to say yet that Guy will really beat out Hobson. Anderson was beyond pathetic at LB but he's really a pure ST guy. I see little hope for Woods to be anything other than a desperation sub at LB. Sad 'cause he's a specimen.
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Corner: Bryant and Wheatley have separated from the pack with rare athleticsm and speed. Bryant picked a Brady force over the middle when Watson and Faulk ran their seam and wheel routes in the same vicinity. Wheatley broke up two endzone shots to Moss. He was beaten twice deep, once by two steps and once for failure to look for the ball. The ability of Moss to outrun, outposition and track the flight of the ball in combination is simply unmatched in pro football. Wheatley never backed down, jarring the ball loose on one occasion with his hands and on another ocassion with a pop. He also did not hesitate to step up and wrap on two sweeps. Interestingly, BB sent him on a blitz off the edge in the two minute. He was stuffed. Lewis Sanders is physical but has clearly lost a step. Richardson made no plays and was beaten badly to the outside repeatedly by Jabbar and Randy, and in the end zone by CJ Jones. Reviews on Wilhite were mixed, physical but beaten badly to the outside repeatedly. Assuming the Hobbit returns in good health, Wheatley, Bryant and the Hobbit will cover, Webster and Wilhite will back up on the 53 and compete for a spot on the 45 on the basis of special teams.

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I'd had hopes for Richardson after last year although I did not go to camp and see him myself, but I agree that he was mostly ineffective today. Don't remember anything about Sanders but yes, Wheatley is holding his own, esp for a rook.
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Dook - awesome stuff; THANKS. However, paragraphs are your friend

Anyway, Mayo, Crable and Wheatley from this draft together with Meriweather from last draft are the key to rebuilding this defense so your posts are very exciting. Even before reading this I was starting to wonder if Guyton may knock off Hobson after Guyton popped up positively on several other days.
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Corner: Bryant and Wheatley have separated from the pack with rare athleticsm and speed. Bryant picked a Brady force over the middle when Watson and Faulk ran their seam and wheel routes in the same vicinity. Wheatley broke up two endzone shots to Moss. He was beaten twice deep, once by two steps and once for failure to look for the ball. The ability of Moss to outrun, outposition and track the flight of the ball in combination is simply unmatched in pro football. Wheatley never backed down, jarring the ball loose on one occasion with his hands and on another ocassion with a pop. He also did not hesitate to step up and wrap on two sweeps. Interestingly, BB sent him on a blitz off the edge in the two minute. He was stuffed. Lewis Sanders is physical but has clearly lost a step. Richardson made no plays and was beaten badly to the outside repeatedly by Jabbar and Randy, and in the end zone by CJ Jones. Reviews on Wilhite were mixed, physical but beaten badly to the outside repeatedly. Assuming the Hobbit returns in good health, Wheatley, Bryant and the Hobbit will cover, Webster and Wilhite will back up on the 53 and compete for a spot on the 45 on the basis of special teams.

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i'm pretty pissed that this fool picked off tommy in practice today. who does he think he is? go pick off someone else fernando!
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Corner: Bryant and Wheatley have separated from the pack with rare athleticsm and speed. Bryant picked a Brady force over the middle when Watson and Faulk ran their seam and wheel routes in the same vicinity. Wheatley broke up two endzone shots to Moss. He was beaten twice deep, once by two steps and once for failure to look for the ball. The ability of Moss to outrun, outposition and track the flight of the ball in combination is simply unmatched in pro football. Wheatley never backed down, jarring the ball loose on one occasion with his hands and on another ocassion with a pop. He also did not hesitate to step up and wrap on two sweeps. Interestingly, BB sent him on a blitz off the edge in the two minute. He was stuffed. Lewis Sanders is physical but has clearly lost a step. Richardson made no plays and was beaten badly to the outside repeatedly by Jabbar and Randy, and in the end zone by CJ Jones. Reviews on Wilhite were mixed, physical but beaten badly to the outside repeatedly. Assuming the Hobbit returns in good health, Wheatley, Bryant and the Hobbit will cover, Webster and Wilhite will back up on the 53 and compete for a spot on the 45 on the basis of special teams.

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