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Another win for morality, decency and religious values
Another state - which was very very blue in 2008 - has rejected gay marriage, proving once again that the American people, even those who vote democrat, are strongly opposed to the radical gay agenda.
Too bad there are actually places in this country where the pols don't give a darn what the people think.
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Re: Another win for morality, decency and religious values
I heard this joke last night: in West Virginia you can marry your cousin, but not your gay cousin.
To me, treating people equally is the moral thing to do. I think what is creating a problem for people is that the state is involved in marriage. The state should recognize civil unions (legal status) and leave the religious institution of marriage to the churches. In other words, people can get married in a church, but the state would recognize that as a civil union. The state should not be in the marriage business.
Re: Another win for morality, decency and religious values
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Originally Posted by The Brandon Five
I heard this joke last night: in West Virginia you can marry your cousin, but not your gay cousin.
To me, treating people equally is the moral thing to do. I think what is creating a problem for people is that the state is involved in marriage. The state should recognize civil unions (legal status) and leave the religious institution of marriage to the churches. In other words, people can get married in a church, but the state would recognize that as a civil union. The state should not be in the marriage business.
The most sensible approach to the topic. It is also one of the most roundly ignored approaches to the topic, unfortunately.
------------------ “On a day when they could have had impact players David Terrell or Koren Robinson..they took Georgia defensive tackle Richard Seymour, who had 1 sacks last season in the pass-happy SEC and is too tall to play tackle at 6-6 and too slow to play defensive end. This genius move was followed by trading out of a spot where they could have gotten the last decent receiver in Robert Ferguson and settled for tackle Matt Light, who will not help any time soon.”
Re: Another win for morality, decency and religious values
Always find the connection between gay rights and religious values, humorous...
There is no mention of anything about gay folks in the new testament, which largely chronicles the life of christ and how his word was disseminated...
Most of this largely comes out of convocations of old celibate men, who gather together and decide what is best for the masses..
The old testament is invoked, however that basis is selective also.. as no longer does anyone advocate the killing of gay people or disobedient children.
A few more:
"Do not cook a young goat in its mother’s milk," Exod. 34:26; "Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material," Lev. 19:19; "Make tassels on the four corners of the cloak you wear," Deut. 22:12)
Christians violate a number of Old Testament laws with some regularity (e.g., "A woman must not wear men’s clothing, nor a man wear women’s clothing," Deut. 22:5; "Rise in the presence of the aged," Lev. 19:32; "The pig is also unclean; although it has a split hoof, it does not chew the cud. You are not to eat their meat or touch their carcasses," Deut. 14:8).
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Re: Another win for morality, decency and religious values
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Originally Posted by DarrylS
Christians violate a number of Old Testament laws with some regularity (e.g., "A woman must not wear men’s clothing, nor a man wear women’s clothing," Deut. 22:5; "Rise in the presence of the aged," Lev. 19:32; "The pig is also unclean; although it has a split hoof, it does not chew the cud. You are not to eat their meat or touch their carcasses," Deut. 14:8).
A learned Jew would argue that it is natural for Christians, and all Gentiles, to violate these laws, and to have a natural misunderstanding of the relevance of these laws.
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------------------ “On a day when they could have had impact players David Terrell or Koren Robinson..they took Georgia defensive tackle Richard Seymour, who had 1 sacks last season in the pass-happy SEC and is too tall to play tackle at 6-6 and too slow to play defensive end. This genius move was followed by trading out of a spot where they could have gotten the last decent receiver in Robert Ferguson and settled for tackle Matt Light, who will not help any time soon.”
Re: Another win for morality, decency and religious values
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Originally Posted by Nikolai
A learned Jew would argue that it is natural for Christians, and all Gentiles, to violate these laws, and to have a natural misunderstanding of the relevance of these laws.
Does that include the passage on homosexuality???
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Re: Another win for morality, decency and religious values
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Originally Posted by DarrylS
Does that include the passage on homosexuality???
It depends. How's that for a Jewish perspective?
EDIT - I can get a bit more in depth with it, if you want, but it might carry us into a theological discussion, derailing this more political thread.
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------------------ “On a day when they could have had impact players David Terrell or Koren Robinson..they took Georgia defensive tackle Richard Seymour, who had 1 sacks last season in the pass-happy SEC and is too tall to play tackle at 6-6 and too slow to play defensive end. This genius move was followed by trading out of a spot where they could have gotten the last decent receiver in Robert Ferguson and settled for tackle Matt Light, who will not help any time soon.”
Re: Another win for morality, decency and religious values
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Originally Posted by The Brandon Five
I heard this joke last night: in West Virginia you can marry your cousin, but not your gay cousin.
To me, treating people equally is the moral thing to do. I think what is creating a problem for people is that the state is involved in marriage. The state should recognize civil unions (legal status) and leave the religious institution of marriage to the churches. In other words, people can get married in a church, but the state would recognize that as a civil union. The state should not be in the marriage business.
I'm with this guy.
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