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Old 09-15-2011, 10:00 AM   #1
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God and the idea of God is purely man made. There is no heaven. There is no hell. Religion was invented to help man deal with the fact that one day he has to die and be gone forever.

The bible is the biggest load of crap I've ever read. Ok maybe not the biggest because alot of the other mainstream religions have what I consider fairytales as well. So your telling me that a guy.. in B.C. times built a boat with two of every animal in it? That boat would have to be 3 times the size of San Diego and built in the B.C. Not to mention there would be SOME kind of evidence of this eventually shipwrecked boat all across the globe.... OR how about the fairytale on why we all die. Because a snake in a magic... i repeat MAGIC GARDEN TALKED and convinced a man to bite an apple and now man has to die kuz he didn't listen... lol suuuuure.

Also where are the dinosaurs in the bible? According to the bible the earth is only a few thousand years old.

The only reason people even believe in religion is because they are brainwashed from chldhood or just brainwashed in general.
Then think about it from a black/ African American perspective. Most Blacks are christian. But Why? It's because during the trans atlantic slave trade white people imparted their religion on the black slaves. During slavery Sunday in church was your only free time which is why black churches are more celebratory in nature. So church became huge in the black community after slavery and continued until now.

The Christian religion is a dying religion. Eventually a thousand years from now or probably less than that , Christianity will be an ancient religion. Approx 70 Pct of the country is christian right now. In 50 years it is expected to dwindle to 40 percent.

Also what about Aliens? Wouldn't life on other planets pretty much completely discredit the bible? Well there is life on other planets we just haven't found it yet. Consider this though.... If you were to look at a planet a billion light years away you wouldn't be looking at the planet how it looks now. You would be looking at that planet how it looked 1 billion years ago because it took that light image one billion years to reach your telescope lens. Conversely, if an alien species were to look at earth from 3 billion light years away they wouldn't see life on earth or humans. They would see an ocean planet with a bunch of rocks.

With that said I tend to agree with the smartest people in the world. Michou Koku is one of the smartest and he believes that the idea of a Universe is inaccurate. You have solar systems that are inside of galaxies, and galaxies within the universe. Most people tend to stop there. However, Koku believes that the Universe is actually within another bigger level called the Multiverse. And each Universe within this multiverse has it's own characteristics. As for the start of the universe and something coming from nothing... Well technically space isn't nothing. It's a vaccum. Within the vaccum has always been energy. A characteristic of energy is that it mutates and transforms. What I believe happened is that energy transformed into matter and the universe began to form. Not a big bang.
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Old 09-15-2011, 10:23 AM   #2
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Well this should go over well.
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I'm not so sure about it dwindling to 40 percent in 50 years but who knows. It does seems as though as the percentage of the general populace who are devoutly religious shrinks those who are still in the fold become more fanatically zealous about it.

I have my own metaphysical ideas based loosely off of David Bohm but none of us can really know but regardless as long as people want to practice religion in a peaceful manner I don't care. When they become fanatical because how could they possibly be wrong? That's when I take issue.

I've posted stuff about the dinosaur museum and find it hysterical. The same people are looking to spend $155 million on a park about Noah.

Noah's followers recreating ark, in Kentucky - CBS News

Seriously how many people would that feed?
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Not to mention there would be SOME kind of evidence of this eventually shipwrecked boat all across the globe....
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The only reason people even believe in religion is because they are brainwashed from chldhood or just brainwashed in general.
The OP sticks to the facts and is free of any "brainwashing" or beliefs in things that can't be verified. Well except for:

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Well there is life on other planets we just haven't found it yet.
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With that said I tend to agree with the smartest people in the world. Michou Koku is one of the smartest and he believes that the idea of a Universe is inaccurate. You have solar systems that are inside of galaxies, and galaxies within the universe. Most people tend to stop there. However, Koku believes that the Universe is actually within another bigger level called the Multiverse.
And the evidence of the Multiverse is?

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And each Universe within this multiverse has it's own characteristics. As for the start of the universe and something coming from nothing... Well technically space isn't nothing. It's a vaccum. Within the vaccum has always been energy. A characteristic of energy is that it mutates and transforms. What I believe happened is that energy transformed into matter and the universe began to form. Not a big bang.
Got it. Your "beliefs" are perfectly understandable but others have beliefs because they are "brainwashed".
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The OP sticks to the facts and is free of any "brainwashing" or beliefs in things that can't be verified. Well except for:





And the evidence of the Multiverse is?



Got it. Your "beliefs" are perfectly understandable but others have beliefs because they are "brainwashed".
My beliefs are not restricted to changing and are based on plausible theories as opposed to your beliefs which are based on fairytales and a magic man in the sky who lets terrible things happen to good people lol. If you believe a man walked on water once in ancient times but is for whatever reason too cool and mystical to come back and do it now then hey.... I got a bridge in san francisco made of gold I want to sell you. When have you ever legitimately undeniable seen jesus along with more than 1 or 2 other people. I mean live in person talking in the flesh. NEVER. Never happend never will happen. The religion plays on peoples fears and labels people who don't believe as the "devil" trying to influence you lol. If you don't believe in him then your soul is damned for hell? What kinda messed up, make me paranoid so I will believe crap is that? Come on man put the kool aid down.

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My beliefs are not restricted to changing and are based on plausible theories as opposed to your beliefs which are based on fairytales and a magic man in the sky who lets terrible things happen to good people lol.
Plausible to you.

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Is the bridge named "Multiverse"? Or is it "Area 51"?

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God and the idea of God is purely man made. There is no heaven. There is no hell. Religion was invented to help man deal with the fact that one day he has to die and be gone forever.

The bible is the biggest load of crap I've ever read. Ok maybe not the biggest because alot of the other mainstream religions have what I consider fairytales as well. So your telling me that a guy.. in B.C. times built a boat with two of every animal in it? That boat would have to be 3 times the size of San Diego and built in the B.C. Not to mention there would be SOME kind of evidence of this eventually shipwrecked boat all across the globe.... OR how about the fairytale on why we all die. Because a snake in a magic... i repeat MAGIC GARDEN TALKED and convinced a man to bite an apple and now man has to die kuz he didn't listen... lol suuuuure.

Also where are the dinosaurs in the bible? According to the bible the earth is only a few thousand years old.

The only reason people even believe in religion is because they are brainwashed from chldhood or just brainwashed in general.
Then think about it from a black/ African American perspective. Most Blacks are christian. But Why? It's because during the trans atlantic slave trade white people imparted their religion on the black slaves. During slavery Sunday in church was your only free time which is why black churches are more celebratory in nature. So church became huge in the black community after slavery and continued until now.

The Christian religion is a dying religion. Eventually a thousand years from now or probably less than that , Christianity will be an ancient religion. Approx 70 Pct of the country is christian right now. In 50 years it is expected to dwindle to 40 percent.

Also what about Aliens? Wouldn't life on other planets pretty much completely discredit the bible?
So, basically, you've got a beef with Christian religion...all of your religious talking points are refutations of post-Reformation Protestant Christian theology.
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Plausible to you....
Do you really think life elsewhere in the universe is implausible?
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Do you really think life elsewhere in the universe is implausible?
I do.

My larger point was that plausibility is in the eye of the beholder.
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I do.

My larger point was that plausibility is in the eye of the beholder.
I understand that (and agreed with a lot of what you said).

I just found this interesting. why is life elsewhere, in the entire universe, implausible to you?
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