Originally Posted by Synovia
Thats the point. They're two seperate things. Evolution, and what started it all. I believe it was abiogenesis, you, god, but neither one has anything to do with evolution.
I have trouble with this distinguishing factor between abiogenesis and evolution. Maybe I am missing your point?
The formation of atoms is arguable very complex. Hydrogen cooled early in the universe's time line and allowed larger elements such as carbon or iron to appear. But even very simple molecules took the crashing together of several atoms to occur in perfect harmony. But amino acids, nucleic acids, etc are very strange. In a laboratory all amino acids are equally left and right handed. In nature they are all left handed, and nucleic acids are all right handed. Much like the mystery of matter and anti matter. How did this happen?
Then suddenly a membrane appeared around these molecules and they began to self replicate, self splice? RNA, DNA, protein, which came first? Then they started to swap information.
It is a blurry line when abiogenesis stopped and evolution began. I think initiation occurred at the big bang, and evolution carried on from there, you may disagree?
Do you think it was random chance? The lines of "God" are also blurry, hence the confusion. Abiogenesis in my opinion does not negate the possibility of God.
P.s. To answer a previous question. Cairns-Smith "has estimated that 140 steps occur that go into the synthesis of RNA (that can self replicate) from simple prebiotic compounds. For each step there are 6 alternative reactions that could occur apart from the desired reaction that resulted in life". Cairns-smith estimated "the chance of this happening as 10 to the power of 109. This is back to the realm of monkeys with typewriters. The earth simply has not had enough time."
I don't dismiss this could have happened by random chance. But it seems to me that something was guiding life (and still does) I call it God, but I once called it Gaia before I found Christ. You can call it whatever you want.