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3 to be 4 · 10-23-2006, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by grogan2767

No, Catholics are willing to question and use their brains more than Fundy Evangelicals. FUndy's are stupid. Very few Catholics think the Bible is an innerrant literal truth.

but they believe in God, Grogan. they believe in Heaven, Grogan.

they believe, get ready Grogan, in Jesus Christ.

are they stupid????

if not, then you DO admit its not stupid to believe in God, Jesus Christ, and Heaven.

which is it? make up your mind.

grogan2767 · 10-23-2006, 11:15 PM

Deluded is a better word. God belief is one thing. (If there is a god it would be more of a Deist situation in my opnion.)

It is clear that the god that might exist does not care at all about human suffering. And don't give me the Jesus died on the cross for us crap. The Bible is clear that most go to Hell (Narrow road versus wide road)

The Delusion comes in when people think they have a "relationship", or the they "hear from God", or that they can "pray" and the pryers are heard. These people are deluded as was I, and are You.

I don't like you. You would probably burn me at the stake! You would stone me to death if we lived in a Theocracy. This is personal, becuase people like you are what is wrong with the world. You are disgrace to your Jewish family for believing in Christ. You are disgrace to any children you may have becuase you will not question attrocity. Do you realize that your children will read these verses eventually, and look up at you with disgusted looks in their eyes, and you will have to tell them that God can torture anyone he likes and still be Omnibenevolent? You may not have kids, because I can't imagine you ever been laid in your life.

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Originally Posted by 3 to be 4

but they believe in God, Grogan. they believe in Heaven, Grogan.

they believe, get ready Grogan, in Jesus Christ.

are they stupid????

if not, then you DO admit its not stupid to believe in God, Jesus Christ, and Heaven.

which is it? make up your mind.

3 to be 4 · 10-23-2006, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by grogan2767

Deluded is a better word. God belief is one thing. (If there is a god it would be more of a Deist situation in my opnion.)

It is clear that the god that might exist does not care at all about human suffering. And don't give me the Jesus died on the cross for us crap. The Bible is clear that most go to Hell (Narrow road versus wide road)

The Delusion comes in when people think they have a "relationship", or the they "hear from God", or that they can "pray" and the pryers are heard. These people are deluded as was I, and are You.

I don't like you. You would probably burn me at the stake! You would stone me to death if we lived in a Theocracy. This is personal, becuase people like you are what is wrong with the world. You are disgrace to your Jewish family for believing in Christ. You are disgrace to any children you may have becuase you will not question attrocity. Do you realize that your children will read these verses eventually, and look up at you with disgusted looks in their eyes, and you will have to tell them that God can torture anyone he likes and still be Omnibenevolent? You may not have kids, because I can't imagine you ever been laid in your life.

wow, that was weird the first of 3 times you posted that. the bigot is unraveling.

so Catholics are deluded.

Jews are sick S.O.B.'s and Catholics are deluded. well, tha takes care of most of Boston.

3 to be 4 · 10-24-2006, 12:26 AM

Grogan, I almost went to bed, but God wont let me ( i know, laugh at me)

I wont sleep in peace tonight unless i tell you this, now that thing seems to be over for tonight and ive had a chance to cool down.

I dont like the things you've said about God or about people who worship. But I forgive you. And I hope you can forgive me. Im not going to lay a Jesus thing on you, not tonight. But this wasnt about Jesus, it was about the Father. I realized that earlier tonight, and I knew I had to address it.

the Father, God, He loves us. I dont claim to understand why He does the things He does. Im not God. None of us are. I'm sorry you felt you had to move from Him, but as a person I can respect you. Im asking you to please have respect for others who do believe. It doesnt mean you have to agree, or accept, it doesnt mean you cant engage in conversation or rebuttal.
But its offensive to have ones God talked to in that language, and be called names for having belief.

Im sorry I had to be as aggressive in taking my stand as I did tonight, but I cant have my God talked about like that without confronting it.

When words and behavior like that are permitted and nobody stands up and calls it wrong, its a dangerous thing.

this Christian does not hate non-Christians. And I certainly dont hate you. And I dont know you enough to not like you, I just dont like your words.

after tonight i will limit my posting to a few a night and maybe one thread if there is a purpose behind it. I ask you to stop name calling and making personal attacks when or if you disagree.

BruschiOnTap · 12-11-2006, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 3 to be 4

im glad you are being more civil

seeing as you never did have a decent answer for why you're not a Jew Hater for calling the God of Abraham, the God of David, and the God of Moses a "baby killer" and for calling people who believe in that God "stupid", I would say that for me its been a real pleasure revealing you as more than just a Christian hater, but as someone who trashes Jews and Muslims too.

And you know that I am right. Thats why YOU have been so abusive towards, not only me, but anyone who challenged you the lat couple of days.

Theres a story behind your behavior, you're mad at God for something, and you know that im right.

You arent secure in your decision to abandon God, so you tear down anyone who has God in their life so that you can cover your guilt.

You offer nothing positive, you just tear down. Not just me, not just Christianity, for you didnt go after Jesus and the New Testament, you went after the God of the Torah. You disdain Jews as much, if not more, than Christians, and its proven by the sources you use. You patronize Jews by saying how much you care, probably because you want to use them to get at me, because to some secular Jews, belief against Jesus is stronger than a belief for their own God.

I feel great that I took a stand for God tonight.

Hatred must be called Hatred, even if I'm the only one who has the guts to do it.

I pray that you get some help for your sickness

If God is omnipotent then he doesn't need you to take a stand for him, right???

3 to be 4 · 01-28-2007, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by NEM

Actually, I understand where you are coming from, although I wouldnt have put it quite the same way that you did.

And, I believe I understand why you have such disdain for 3 to be 4, and quite frankly, Icant disgree with you there, either.

Although, I dont believe that I dont like him, and I know that I dont hate him, I just feelthat he is so wrong and that his attempts to push his beliefs, and in the way that he does it, well..I for one, find very offensive.

And, it is for ecactly what he is attempting to do, that on a much larger scle, world wide, over the course of history, more wars, more death, and more ldestruction have been levied on the people of this planet than from any other source.

IMO, religion is what will destroy this planet...and, again IMO, there will not be any souls flying off to "heaven" in any such "rapture."

thanks for bring Grogan back to life.

I must ask NEM, you've indictating you were Baptised in 2000 and that your wife is an Evangelical Christian. You've also posted on this website that cHristianity is a scum religion and that its caused nothing but grief. Exactly what is the story? Do you tell your wife these things? Why did you get Baptised?

fleabassist1 · 01-29-2007, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 3 to be 4

thanks for bring Grogan back to life.

I must ask NEM, you've indictating you were Baptised in 2000 and that your wife is an Evangelical Christian. You've also posted on this website that cHristianity is a scum religion and that its caused nothing but grief. Exactly what is the story? Do you tell your wife these things? Why did you get Baptised?

FWIW - I was baptised because my parents made me do it.

everlong · 01-29-2007, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by NEM

IMO, religion is what will destroy this planet

.................................................. .......Amen.

The Predator · 01-30-2007, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by grogan2767

This is personal, becuase people like you are what is wrong with the world.

All one has to do is read your sick, angered words toward another human being to know you have this totally backwards. I don't know either of you, but you are sick.

3 to be 4 · 01-30-2007, 05:18 PM

I just love it when unpleasant threads from 3 months ago are dredged up.