Terry Glenn is a cowgirl

Must be similar 2 hoodia, the famous cactus...

For my body metabolic type, I can gain muscle pretty easily... but I also can pack on the fat as well, if I'm not busting ass at work... or... on/at other activities. Lately, I've been very active, and I feel pretty positive about it... but I'm always looking for healthy supplements.

Thanks for the info on this. It sounds very interesting.

It sounds like you need to pound on the protein.

T-ShirtDynasty

Funny.... a client of mine is an importer of african teas and herbs (he doesn't carry Yerba which is South American) but he had Hoodia on his site long before it was popular and had me stocked full of freebies to try, like he does with all his products. Hoodia did nothing for me at all. I almost told him it was crap and not to carry it before I checked his web stats and saw that he was selling a ton of it. I kept my mouth shut and just figured I was a nonresponder to it, which isn't unusual for me. I'm a nonresponder to a lot of stuff... and sure enough, Hoodia is one of his top sellers now.

I hear ya on the protein. There's no way I can get more of it from a ratio standpoint... I try to stick to 1 to 1.5 grams of protein per pound of lean body mass now. ... looking over my fitday.com logs, that's around 175 grams of protein a day (thank god for Dymatize Elite Whey Butter Toffee flavor!) Before I started eating a clean bodybuilding style diet, I was an Atkins guy for about 5 or 6 years, and even now the only carbs I take in are fibrous carbs, limited fruits, and tons of leafy greens, everything else is protein and healthy fats / functional fatty acids. I just need to flat out eat more to bulk back up now that I've shed the body fat. For some reason now that I lost all that fat (not weight, but fat) I find it's much easier to lift big than it is to eat big... y'know? I'm not lazy in the gym anymore, but damn I'm lazy in the kitchen now.

Edit: regarding carbs.... I should say, fibrous carbs, limited fruits, tons of leafy greens and beer. The most holy of all carbs.

Terry Glenn is a cowgirl

beer is my big roadblock... or is it????

ClevTrev

T-Shirt, bought some today from a local health food store. Got loose organic, non-flavored yerba mate and put it in a tea ball, bathed it with cold water first, then added hot (below boiling point) water. Waited about 4 minutes, and I can see exactly what you're saying about this stuff. Very pleasant tasting, almost like some green tea I've had, but gives you a boost with mental clarity and none of the undesired caffeine-like effects. No nervous energy, nothing. I refilled the cup several times during the afternoon, and the drink kept coming back with no diminishing in taste.

The best part is I had a very light lunch and maintained my energy level all afternoon without hunger cravings. Had multiple projects, and they're done.

I'm going to order 1 pound and am now researching to find the best retailer online. Thanks for the heads up!

T-ShirtDynasty

For general health, not in moderation. Recent study shows that 3-4 drinks per day for a man, 2-3 for a woman, is better for you than not drinking at all, and that's not just wine, that's any ol' booze. For losing fat... yeah, it could be. I stalled out at 14% bodyfat until I cut the beer waaaay back, then continued on to 12-11%. I've stayed below the teens with my normal beer and scotch back to where it was pre fatloss, but I never have a regular beer, it's always a lowcarb one like Miller Lite or Michelob Ultra Amber (regular Ultra is crap).

Dude that's awesome! Really glad you liked it. Me and the Yerba kicked the snot outta another driveway full of snow and heavy slush today... three times. Plus the little one's room got cleaned, the living room, and the den, then got some real work done this evening.

As far as online.. I would highly recommend yerbamatecafe.biz ...I believe the Salante and Mahtay brands are specifically made for them, and they're both excellent, with a nice variety of flavors to keep it constantly interesting. Had the natural cinnamon flavored today... it was like drinking a granola bar, excellent taste. Loved it.

And I'd recommend trying the traditional method with the mate' and bombilla. It's kinda fun, and the gourd seems to soften the flavor a bit. If you get a real gourd (this is the one I use with this bombilla) you have to cure it by letting some yerba and water sit in it for 24-48 hours, then scrape it out with a spoon, and it's good to go. This premium kit is new and looks perfect... if they had had it on their site a couple of weeks ago I probably would have ordered it instead.

Tunescribe

OK, here is my report: I did what ClevTrev did, went to the health food store and got an 8-ounce package of the loose organic stuff. I steeped it in a French press and drank about five cups. I felt a little light-headed for a while, like I was coming down with a mild migraine, but that quickly subsided and since then I've felt relaxed yet alert, and have comfortably focused on my work today without feeling anxious about it, which often happens. (I'm self-employed and hence often work on Sundays.) I like the taste, sort of a woody green-tea flavor. So far, so good. I'm looking forward to see how I feel tomorrow when I plan to go another round with the yerba. I'm always wary of the placebo effect with something new, but if I feel tomorrow like I do right now, this is one tremendous discovery.

JoeSixPat

I hadn't heard of this until you mentioned it, but saw today that 7-11 now is adding the stuff to their coffee, along with Ginseng and other "energy" type supplements, billing it as "Energy Coffee"

Of course, the way you described its preparation I'd have to think it doesn have any impact when 7-11 is involved in its preparation.

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T-ShirtDynasty

Glad you gave it a shot! Anything different the second day? With the migraine comment... did you actually experience any headache pain, or was it just the feeling that you recognized as sign one might be coming on, but didn't?

I know what you mean about the placebo effect. There are unfortunately very few things that I respond to beyond the second day. The majority of stuff for me is golden on day one, crap on day three and beyond. Classic non-responder with high hopes. Yerba was one of the few that didn't change for me from day one to week five, consistent across the board, earning a rare place on the near empty shelf of staples.

Who knows. I'll say that the Mahtay brand, which has Yerba Extract added back into the natural yerba seems to have significantly more kick than just the standard yerba... so if that's the stuff they're adding to their energy coffee, it might be worth a shot, I don't have a 7-11 anywhere near me otherwise I'd give it a try. Yeah, it's 7-11 and so I'd have my doubts, but y'never know.

By the way, in regards to the thermos size I mentioned earlier... mine holds about 18 ounces of water. Pictured below with my Mate' (and a Patriots hat so you don't think it's some lame stock photo I found on the 'net )

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