Word to Shmessy, PFIV, and Nikki - Page 2 - New England Patriots Forums

Turd Furguson · 09-08-2006, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by sdaniels7114

Does he talk back?

He says "GET THESE DAMN NAILS OUT OF MY HANDS AND FEET!!

***Tunescribe*** · 09-08-2006, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 3 to be 4

Nikki, come off it. You say you go to church. then you say you want to be a stripper in a post inviting Salvation?

Uh, excuse me, but I don't believe there's anything written in the Bible that condemns stripping.

***DarrylS*** · 09-08-2006, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 3 to be 4

Hypocrites.
Shmessy, you are so concerned with the man, you dredged up that when it had pretty much died out, in order to get at me. Did you ask him? Im sure he likes where this has all gone. You want to know which me you are talking to? Unless you are under the delusion any of us is perfect, I can admit my mistakes. God is the only perfect being. I slip up. and so do you. the difference is, i have forgiveness of my sins through the blood of Christ

PFIV, you have lashed out with every name in the book. You think anyone would want your heart? Yes, laugh some more at Steve Irwins fate. I have never said the things to you that freely dish out at me. But thats because its ok to mock Christians here, and certainly call them disgusting and pathetic.
You are a bully.

Nikki, come off it. You say you go to church. then you say you want to be a stripper in a post inviting Salvation? What church is this?? Then you judge me, using false information.

He who is without Sin may cast the first stone. ever hear of that.

I admit my errors. Im a human and i screw up. And so do you guys, you just have so much invested in being geniuses you'd never admit it.

What doesnt change, whether you believe it or not, or whether or not im a mass murderer, a Nazi, pathetic, or disgusting, is that Jesus Christ loves us all. And as He forgave me, I must forgive others. And so I forgive you.

call me all the names you want, but its not about me. And I hate to tell you something, but its not about you either.

Do not judge, lest you be judged...another word comes to mind, Humility.. or better still what my mother said, you have two ears and one mouth so you can listen twice as much as you speak.

3 to be 4 · 09-08-2006, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Turd Furguson

He says "GET THESE DAMN NAILS OUT OF MY HANDS AND FEET!!

of course, the moral Shmessy will be outraged by this comment, as he cares for the people out there so much.

3 to be 4 · 09-08-2006, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by shmessy

Since I am not a Christian, I cannot surmise what Jesus would have said to 3tobe4, but I CAN tell you what my Christian friend who saw this commented. It was this:

Jesus: "3tobe4, I do love you, but my divine forgiveness is NOT some "bulletproof vest" for you to wear allowing you to REPEATEDLY perpetrate mean and immoral acts towards your fellow man, followed by absolution. At some point, you need to LIVE a Christian life instead of TALK a Christian life.

----By the way, what my friend told me in 45 seconds was far more meaningful to me regarding Christ than the tens of thousands of words written by 3tobe4.

"MY divine forgiveness."? Shmessy, I didnt realize you were a follower of Christ? Im so happy for you.

unless, you were trying to pull out the old "I have this Christian friend...."

how childish this has become. I have this Jewish friend. And I listen to His words above your emptiness. His name is Jesus Christ.

JoeSixPat · 09-08-2006, 09:29 PM

Interesting read this thread...

If you ask me we ALL should be hoping God grades on the Bell Curve

***shmessy*** · 09-08-2006, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeSixPat

Interesting read this thread...

If you ask me we ALL should be hoping God grades on the Bell Curve

ROFLMAO!!!

JoeSixPat · 09-09-2006, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by 3 to be 4

"MY divine forgiveness."? Shmessy, I didnt realize you were a follower of Christ? Im so happy for you.

unless, you were trying to pull out the old "I have this Christian friend...."

how childish this has become. I have this Jewish friend. And I listen to His words above your emptiness. His name is Jesus Christ.

Seriously "3 to be 4" let me tell you a little story that you might find helpful in putting your sincere desire to save souls to work. Clearly you have a zeal to do this but I think you've got a lot to learn about a worthwhile approach.

I used to smoke. It's a dirty, awful, nasty, cancer causing habit.

And believe it or not, I was actually aware of all that - but I still smoked. I won't bore you with WHY I smoked - I knew how bad it was and I did it anyway.

Lots of people wanted me to stop. They tried good cop, bad cop, love, anger - and often times they tried to shame me into stopping.

None of it worked - and the "shame" part worked least effectively of all.

It actually made me want to smoke MORE if you can believe that!

I tried to quit when people would shame me into doing it but it never worked.

In the end, I stopped because I WANTED to - the fact that others wanted me to was nice, just so long as they didn't heap shame on me - but it was only when I decided that I wanted to change my life, was I successful at quitting (going on 4 years now).

You can't control how people respond to your call - all you can do is control your own approach and your own responses, and in this case I think you'll agree given what you allowed your thread to become, you might want to change your approach to helping others find what you have found.

Frankly, I believe YOU'RE carring a lot of shame and have not forgive yourself just yet, and perhaps feel a need to do pennance before God can forgive you. It may in fact be that the shame you direct towards others is really shame you direct at yourself, for your past digressions.

If that's the case, try not to allow that to get in the way of how you view others who are sinners to no more or less degree than you are.

Above all, keep in mind that you are NOT the judge of anyone's soul, anymore than any of us should judge you and your soul.

I think you'd learn all this over time but I still put this out in hopes of saving you a bit of time.

I don't claim to know God like you do, but I think I do have a better sense of human nature, and I think you might benefit from heeding some of this advice.

3 to be 4 · 09-09-2006, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeSixPat

Seriously "3 to be 4" let me tell you a little story that you might find helpful in putting your sincere desire to save souls to work. Clearly you have a zeal to do this but I think you've got a lot to learn about a worthwhile approach.

I used to smoke. It's a dirty, awful, nasty, cancer causing habit.

And believe it or not, I was actually aware of all that - but I still smoked. I won't bore you with WHY I smoked - I knew how bad it was and I did it anyway.

Lots of people wanted me to stop. They tried good cop, bad cop, love, anger - and often times they tried to shame me into stopping.

None of it worked - and the "shame" part worked least effectively of all.

It actually made me want to smoke MORE if you can believe that!

I tried to quit when people would shame me into doing it but it never worked.

In the end, I stopped because I WANTED to - the fact that others wanted me to was nice, just so long as they didn't heap shame on me - but it was only when I decided that I wanted to change my life, was I successful at quitting (going on 4 years now).

You can't control how people respond to your call - all you can do is control your own approach and your own responses, and in this case I think you'll agree given what you allowed your thread to become, you might want to change your approach to helping others find what you have found.

Frankly, I believe YOU'RE carring a lot of shame and have not forgive yourself just yet, and perhaps feel a need to do pennance before God can forgive you. It may in fact be that the shame you direct towards others is really shame you direct at yourself, for your past digressions.

If that's the case, try not to allow that to get in the way of how you view others who are sinners to no more or less degree than you are.

Above all, keep in mind that you are NOT the judge of anyone's soul, anymore than any of us should judge you and your soul.

I think you'd learn all this over time but I still put this out in hopes of saving you a bit of time.

I don't claim to know God like you do, but I think I do have a better sense of human nature, and I think you might benefit from heeding some of this advice.

one thing, Im not controlling peoples response to the call. Im reacting to the accusations hurled against me and the cruel taunting through videos making fun of Christs death. Nobody here has to respond to anything or look at anything.

I had been called slimy, disgusting, pathetic, anti-semite, Nazi, sick.....
and im judgemental? please read through the threads and take in the language being used by those people and compare it to my language.

I dont post my threads about Christ at the 5 or 6 people out there who have been jumping all over me about it. I post it for the people, hundreds of them, who look at it and dont respond to me, but maybe respond to their own heart.

None of us have any idea what this discussion has meant. And if it bothers you to read it, heres an idea liberals have said for years regarding music or TV : Dont look at it.

Im very happy with the overall response this talk of Jesus has had. He is not discussed much in New England, i do know that. And im certainly glad its stirred things up.

I do wish i had not gotten myself diverted into personal stuff, im human, and i slipped up. But all the videos, the messages about Jesus, im very glad its out there.

Peace be with you.

PatsChick87 · 09-09-2006, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeSixPat

Seriously "3 to be 4" let me tell you a little story that you might find helpful in putting your sincere desire to save souls to work. Clearly you have a zeal to do this but I think you've got a lot to learn about a worthwhile approach.

I used to smoke. It's a dirty, awful, nasty, cancer causing habit.

And believe it or not, I was actually aware of all that - but I still smoked. I won't bore you with WHY I smoked - I knew how bad it was and I did it anyway.

Lots of people wanted me to stop. They tried good cop, bad cop, love, anger - and often times they tried to shame me into stopping.

None of it worked - and the "shame" part worked least effectively of all.

It actually made me want to smoke MORE if you can believe that!

I tried to quit when people would shame me into doing it but it never worked.

In the end, I stopped because I WANTED to - the fact that others wanted me to was nice, just so long as they didn't heap shame on me - but it was only when I decided that I wanted to change my life, was I successful at quitting (going on 4 years now).

You can't control how people respond to your call - all you can do is control your own approach and your own responses, and in this case I think you'll agree given what you allowed your thread to become, you might want to change your approach to helping others find what you have found.

Frankly, I believe YOU'RE carring a lot of shame and have not forgive yourself just yet, and perhaps feel a need to do pennance before God can forgive you. It may in fact be that the shame you direct towards others is really shame you direct at yourself, for your past digressions.

If that's the case, try not to allow that to get in the way of how you view others who are sinners to no more or less degree than you are.

Above all, keep in mind that you are NOT the judge of anyone's soul, anymore than any of us should judge you and your soul.

I think you'd learn all this over time but I still put this out in hopes of saving you a bit of time.

I don't claim to know God like you do, but I think I do have a better sense of human nature, and I think you might benefit from heeding some of this advice.

Wow Joe!! I am seriously impressed with your post! Thank you, I will be printing and saving this for future. I'm continue to be amazed at some of these "gems" that I pick up from this board! I'm buying next time!

09-08-2006, 09:29 PM	#16
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