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Old 08-10-2006, 10:57 AM   #1
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Default Better Carl Palmer (EL&P) or Neil Peart (Rush) ?

difficult to say...

the two best drummers imho

what you think ?
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the two best drummers imho

what you think ?
Peart. The guy is the dog's b*llocks. I rated John Bonham as well.
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Default Re: Better Carl Palmer (EL&P) or Neil Peart (Rush) ?

I agree, Peart.
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Old 08-10-2006, 01:22 PM   #4
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Peart is really amazing

i have been able to see alive the RUSH in Milan

it was a beautiful concert

my 3 top Rush song

1 - Subdivisions
2 - Limelight
3 - Tom Sawyer

the most beautiful from E L & P imo is Hoedown and From the beginning
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Hate to go with the crowd, but it's Peart for me too. One of the three or four hardest drummers I ever had to learn. Not the hardest, but certainly the toughest of the 'popular' drummers for me, and the drummers that I taught. Palmer had some great stuff, but not at the same technical level.

I'd put Michael Shrieve above them both, as well as Phil Collins (only his work with the jazz-fusion band, Brand X) and maybe Scott Rockenfield, one of the most underrated but technically mindblowing percussionists ever.
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Ahh favorite drummers!

Between the two I'd go with Peart, easilly... thought I do think "speed drumming" is very over-rated. In my opinion knowing when NOT to play is even more important than knowing when or how to play when it comes to that instrument.

Keith Moon deserves mention among the best rock drummers as does Bonham and Ginger Baker. Stuart Copeland of the Police and Mickey Hart and Bill Kreutzman of the Grateful Dead should be in there somewhere too.

My darkhorse candidates are Kenwood Denard who plays drums for Maceo Parker on "Live on Planet Groove" - check out the extended funky drum solo and trading of licks with Maceo (James Brown's sax player for those unaware) on "Shake Everything You've Got" http://www.drummerworld.com/drummers...d_Dennard.html

Another less known but incredible funk jazz drummer is Omar Hakim - who played with Sting when he began his own funk jazz experiment (with Branford Marsalis too) on the live Bring on the Night Album (check out the late Kenny Kirkland's keyboard work on that album too) http://www.drummerworld.com/drummers/Omar_Hakim.html

Wil Calhoun from Living Color is another one who gets overlooked - its his Jazz work that really sets him apart rather than anything that got radio play
http://www.drummerworld.com/drummers...m_Calhoun.html

Art Blakey is one more offering - just an incredible jazz drummer who I think really showed every modern drummer what you could do on the drum set
http://www.drummerworld.com/drummers/Art_Blakey.html
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Omar Hakim!! Nice!
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This actually is an area of expertise for me, as publisher of a music magazine devoted to the progressive rock/art-rock genre. I've interviewed Carl Palmer a number of times, have attended his clinics and seen him perform live many times as well. I have not had the pleasure of interviewing Peart, but have seen him perform and also have his DVDs. In terms of pure technique and overall ability, my nod goes unequivocally to Palmer, who at age 56 is better than ever. Check out his percussion concerto, and his work on "Pirates" and "Karn Evil 9." Palmer's grounding in classical and ethnic percussion, as well as jazz, makes him quite unique. Others who bring something extra to the table:

Terry Bozzio

Bill Bruford

Dennis Chambers

Rod Morgenstein

Virgil Donati

Cozy Powell

Doane Perry

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This actually is an area of expertise for me, as publisher of a music magazine devoted to the progressive rock/art-rock genre. I've interviewed Carl Palmer a number of times, have attended his clinics and seen him perform live many times as well. I have not had the pleasure of interviewing Peart, but have seen him perform and also have his DVDs. In terms of pure technique and overall ability, my nod goes unequivocally to Palmer, who at age 56 is better than ever.

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did you interviewed Emerson and Lake too ? tell something more pls about Palmer - grazie !
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did you interviewed Emerson and Lake too ? tell something more pls about Palmer - grazie !
Yes, I've also interviewed Lake and Emerson more than once. Palmer is a nice guy, very intense and perhaps the sharpest intellect I've ever interviewed. He answers questions immediately, and in depth, without having to stop and think first about his answer. He is very athletic; he won a European master's competition in fencing. He is now touring with his own three-piece band (guitar and bass, no vocals) and has two live albums out under Carl Palmer Band. Emerson and Lake also are touring with their own groups. All of them say ELP will never re-form.
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