Red Sox Transactions Thread

[chicowalker]

Originally Posted by captain insano

the last thing the redsox needed was to lose good pitching. pap leaving hurts. if you asked me a year ago i would have said differently. he had a really good year. wish he had stayed.

Without question it hurst -- same would have been the case a year ago.

But writing was on the wall, now what matters is who they sign.

Madson's probably ok, but not as good as Papelbon. His asking price makes me think the Sox won't pursue him -- Papelbon was a far better value.

Bell is good but was helped a bit by his home park, and the dropoff in his strikeouts would worry me. He's also older. I'd say sign him for a year or two, if he'd go for that, but then you're giving up the draft picks for fewer years of the free agent signing (I assume he's a type A).

[Patriot Missile]

I think Bell would be the perfect signing. 34 years old? If he takes a 2 year deal it would be ideal for Bard to transition into the closing role.

Madson is also a good choice. Either or I'm good.

Loved what Papelbon did while he was here. 2007 baby. However he sure could be a diva at times and certainly did stick his foot in his mouth a few times over the years. However i will not miss the try to be angry, tough face which looks more like a pouty, you stole my candy face. Take the good with the bad and it was a great run with him in Boston. Good luck to him in his future.

[IcyPatriot]

pap was never one of my favorite players but I appreciated what he did for us. One more save in the last month of the season and we make the playoffs - he faded down the stretch so good for him what he got paid but I am glad we did not offer him that much - i do not think he's worth it for 4 years. We more need pitching that can get us to the 9th than we do a pitcher who can close the 9th out IMO.

I'll take the draft pick this time.

[Wolfpack]

Jonathan Papelbon did a fine job in Boston. He is a popular player and was instrumental in the 2007 championship run. I'm glad we had him and I wish him well.

Having said that, IMHO he is not worth becoming the #1 paid reliver in terms of total dollars and 2nd only to Mariano Rivera in terms of average dollars per year. The Red Sox were wise not to match this offer.

[jcdavey]

i used to think of bell as the best closer

but yeah i think he wouldn't work out well for you guys

i agree that petco park has benefited him, he gave up alot of long outs last season

[ausbacker]

Originally Posted by Wolfpack

Jonathan Papelbon did a fine job in Boston. He is a popular player and was instrumental in the 2007 championship run. I'm glad we had him and I wish him well.

Having said that, IMHO he is not worth becoming the #1 paid reliver in terms of total dollars and 2nd only to Mariano Rivera in terms of average dollars per year. The Red Sox were wise not to match this offer.

Agreed.

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[captain insano]

the thing that drives me crazy about the sox is they never seem to go the extra mile to resign players of there own. damon bay ect ect. but they are so willing to shell out the cash and extra years to guys like crawford and lackey. players that haven't done anything for the redsox. i hope the same thing doesn't happen with ellsbury but i think it will.

[Patriot Missile]

Originally Posted by captain insano

the thing that drives me crazy about the sox is they never seem to go the extra mile to resign players of there own. damon bay ect ect. but they are so willing to shell out the cash and extra years to guys like crawford and lackey. players that haven't done anything for the redsox. i hope the same thing doesn't happen with ellsbury but i think it will.

If Ellsbury leaves it won't be because they aren't willing to pay him. You better believe if he has another season like last year they will offer top dollar for him. I'm worried he'll leave for the alienation of a couple of years ago.{if true}

[dalero]

Originally Posted by Patriot Missile

If Ellsbury leaves it won't be because they aren't willing to pay him. You better believe if he has another season like last year they will offer top dollar for him. I'm worried he'll leave for the alienation of a couple of years ago.{if true}

ALOT can happen before he's a free agent. Sometimes time heals old wounds such as the way the Logan Mankins situation played out.

[chicowalker]

Originally Posted by captain insano

the thing that drives me crazy about the sox is they never seem to go the extra mile to resign players of there own. damon bay ect ect. but they are so willing to shell out the cash and extra years to guys like crawford and lackey. players that haven't done anything for the redsox. i hope the same thing doesn't happen with ellsbury but i think it will.

Bay?

Haven't they signed Lester, Beckett, Buchholz, Pedroia and Youk to long-term deals?