The 2013 Prospect Thread

[Snake Eyes]

Originally Posted by mackenzie45220

WOW!!!!! If only a freaky vertical was more useful for a defensive end; still, that's amazing.

It does give a certain indication of the player's explosivness but unfortunately it's flawed in that the vertical is thought of without regard to the time/space needed for stretch/coil that occurs before the jump.

[mackenzie45220]

Originally Posted by manxman2601

So would any of you draft a QB this year? This is actually a good class of 2nd tier guys: Zach Dysert, Ryan Nassib, Landry Jones, Mike Glennon, Brad Sorensen. None are guaranteed successes but all could be useful developmental QB's to compete with Mallett as our future guy. Or how about Collin Klein in the 5th or 6th round (I know we don't have a pick here...yet). Fantastic mental and physical makeup but needs lots of developmental time as a passer but could give our offense another wrinkle (I'm thinking of our own Blake Bell++ protecting Brady from those worrying QB sneaks).

Exactly. This class is terrible at the top but has lots of depth. I'd say 6 guys are 2nd round prospects

[Snake Eyes]

Originally Posted by mackenzie45220

Exactly. This class is terrible at the top but has lots of depth. I'd say 6 guys are 2nd round prospects

Where do you see AJ McCarron and Sorensen falling?

[mackenzie45220]

Originally Posted by Snake Eyes

Where do you see AJ McCarron and Sorensen falling?

Sorensen 5th round, McCarron 4th

[mayoclinic]

Grizzly Alert for OTG!

Oklahoma LT Lane Johnson. 6'7" 303#.



NFL.com's Chad Reuter featured Johnson and Texas DE Jackson Jeffcoat in his matchups to watch before yesterday's Red River game between Oklahoma and Texas:

The Red River Rivalry is in full effect this weekend, but this edge matchup alone makes it worth the effort to get in front of a television early Saturday. Johnson (6-foot-7, 303 pounds) played quarterback in high school and junior college before moving to tight end and then defensive end in his first two years in Norman. After one season as the Sooners' starting right tackle in 2011, he's on the left side now, looking like a potential NFL starter with supreme athleticism and a frame that offers plenty of growth potential. The same can be said about the son of former Dallas Cowboys star defensive lineman Jim Jeffcoat, who is really starting to come into his own in his junior year as a somewhat slender (6-5, 245) but explosive hybrid pass rusher. Oh, and Johnson might also have the privilege of facing powerful end Alex Okafor (6-4, 265), who already has six sacks on the year, if Longhorns defensive coordinator Manny Diaz moves his star defender to the other side of the line. Johnson will be a highly coveted prospect if he manages to keep this dynamic duo away from quarterback Landry Jones (6-4, 218), who also needs a big performance here to show scouts he's got the pocket poise to be an NFL starter.

Texas-Oklahoma, Stanford-Notre Dame matchups head Week 7 - NFL.com

Well, I'd say Johnson won his matchup with Jeffcoat and Okafor. Texas dominated in both the run and passing game, and Landry Jones had his best performance of the year. Tony Pauline singled out Johnson among his week 7 risers:

Johnson was dominant during the Sooners' lopsided victory over Texas, manhandling a pair of talented Longhorns defensive ends. Johnson is known for his pass protection skills, yet he has displayed improved run-blocking strength and also showed great ability blocking in motion. His play was responsible for several long gainers early in the game which set the tone for Oklahoma. Johnson entered the season with middle-round grades yet has moved into the draft's second day and now ranks as a top-100 choice.

Breaking news, real-time scores and daily analysis from Sports Illustrated – SI.com

Supreme athleticism in a 6'7" 303# frame with growth potential? Former QB, TE and DE with starting experience at both RT and LT for a major program? Well, Johnson is now officially highly coveted by me. He sounds like he was perfectly made for Dante's Dancing Academy. With experience at RT and LT, Johnson would be a terrific swing tackle behind Solder and Vollmer assuming that the Pats retain Vollmer beyond this year, and he has the frame to bulk up and make a dominant RT if Vollmer leaves, or is hobbled by his hack injury. Johnson would also potentially allow Marcus Cannon to move inside. An interior OL group of Mankins, Connolly, Cannon, McDonald, Wendell and Thomas and wouldn't be too shabby.

Johnson is currently rated #157 by NFL DraftScout, but expect that to change.

[RI Patriots fan]

I've been trying to follow the Defensive Ends and I've noticed them really starting to sputter as a group.

Barkevious Mingo and Sam Montgomery played very well against South Carolina and still seem like the cream of the crop. After them, a few former hot prospects seem to be curdling a little bit.

Bjoern Werner hasn't had a sack in the past 4 games against marginal competition and had 1 tackle against a very bad BC team. He doesn't look like he has the speed that he had at the beginning of the year. He has been batting down some passes recently.

Alex Okafor looked awful against Oklahoma with no sacks and 1 tackle. He was gashed in the run (like the rest of his team). He had 6 sacks before this game, so maybe it was just a bad game but it bears watching.

Jackson Jeffcoat tore his pectoral muscle and is out for the season. I had read that he might not come out after his junior season and I would think that about cements it.

Michael Buchanan has been a non-factor and is heading down draft boards. I'm very disappointed when I've watched him play.

William Gholston....1 sack all year (against central Michigan).....bust written all over this guy.

Margus Hunt.....3 sacks against marginal competition. Has a few blocked kicks but overall disappointing.

Brad Madison has just disappeared in his last 3 games....no sacks.

Devin Taylor has 1.5 sacks all year....non-factor.

Dion Jordan.....3 sacks this year all against cupcakes. I know a lot of people like him but I think it's all about potential because I just don't see the pass rushing ability.

A few other Defensive Ends seem to be doing well......Tank Carradine with 7 sacks but still does a good job of tackling. Right now, I'd take him over Werner.

Damontre Moore is coming on very strong. He has 52 tackles, 15 Tackles for loss, and 8.5 sacks in just 6 games. That is amazing. This guy has first round prospect written all over him.

[nekromantique]

Originally Posted by RI Patriots fan

Jackson Jeffcoat tore his pectoral muscle and is out for the season. I had read that he might not come out after his junior season and I would think that about cements it.

if he does that might be something for the pats to jump on late. injury concerns tend to lead to stock drop.





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[manxman2601]

Originally Posted by mayoclinic

Grizzly Alert for OTG!

Oklahoma LT Lane Johnson. 6'7" 303#.



NFL.com's Chad Reuter featured Johnson and Texas DE Jackson Jeffcoat in his matchups to watch before yesterday's Red River game between Oklahoma and Texas:



Texas-Oklahoma, Stanford-Notre Dame matchups head Week 7 - NFL.com

Well, I'd say Johnson won his matchup with Jeffcoat and Okafor. Texas dominated in both the run and passing game, and Landry Jones had his best performance of the year. Tony Pauline singled out Johnson among his week 7 risers:



Breaking news, real-time scores and daily analysis from Sports Illustrated – SI.com

Supreme athleticism in a 6'7" 303# frame with growth potential? Former QB, TE and DE with starting experience at both RT and LT for a major program? Well, Johnson is now officially highly coveted by me. He sounds like he was perfectly made for Dante's Dancing Academy. With experience at RT and LT, Johnson would be a terrific swing tackle behind Solder and Vollmer assuming that the Pats retain Vollmer beyond this year, and he has the frame to bulk up and make a dominant RT if Vollmer leaves, or is hobbled by his hack injury. Johnson would also potentially allow Marcus Cannon to move inside. An interior OL group of Mankins, Connolly, Cannon, McDonald, Wendell and Thomas and wouldn't be too shabby.

Johnson is currently rated #157 by NFL DraftScout, but expect that to change.

For those who want to watch him in action, the full Oklahoma/Texas game can be seen at the link

#13 Oklahoma vs #15 Texas 2012 - YouTube

[manxman2601]

Seahawks Draft Blog has a look at Brandon Coleman who I highlighted some time ago. He's the 6'6" WR from Rutgers. They think he might be the next Calvin Johnson - I'm not buying that but considering where Stephen Hill was drafted, even though Coleman is a RS Sophomore, should he declare, a first round pick isn't beyond him. Three videos in the link to watch too:

Brandon Coleman: future NFL star, should be a Seahawks target « Seahawks Draft Blog

[Luxusdk]

Drop him on Lloyd's 1WR spot and move Lloyd to Branch spot, then we'r rdy

Problem is: He would be a top 3 pick... Raw , HUGE upside adn young.. Worthy a top top pick