The 2013 Prospect Thread

[mackenzie45220]

Other sleepers:
Emory Blake is worth keeping an eye on. Not physically amazing, but has a terrific feel for the game. Really just knows how to play.
Zac Stacy is a beast with an unnatural ratio of power to size. Look him up on YouTube. He can do amazing things.
I've seen David Quessenberry once. Admittedly, it was the 2011 UCLA game (UCLA was among the NCAA's worst in sacks), but, he simply played a perfect game. He did no wrong. It was art. It was beautiful. When I get my hands on more SJSU game film, I'll be looking to make sure his performance wasn't a one time thing. Definitely worth keeping an eye on.
Kevin Minter's stock should rise after the Florida game. He looks like a completely different player in 2012. Instincts have improved tremendously.
You guys know how much I like Aaron Hester and Sheldon Price, but one other corner that's pretty underrated is Corey Broomfield of Mississippi State. I'm yet to see him play against a pass-first team, but he has looked amazing so far.
Chris Pantale is an underrated athlete with good strength and flexibility. Could really surprise.
Lastly, I would definitely draft MarQueis Gray if his position was "Athlete." In my mind, if we are talking about senior mobile Big Ten quarterbacks who are likely to be forced to switch positions in the NFL, no one is better than Gray (MarQueis Gray>Denard Robinson)

[manxman2601]

Originally Posted by mackenzie45220

One guy I don't think I've emphasized enough; I think Illinois's Jonathan Brown is worthy of a top 10 to top 16 pick, but he will be available in the end of the second round. Watch Illinois film, and you see the guy all over the field. I've never scouted a 4-3 outside linebacker with his instincts, and he can rush the quarterback too. An absolute standout prospect. A slightly taller Lavonte David

A few of us loved Lavonte David last year but in the end, we passed on him, Kendricks and Wagner. Makes me think the Pats aren't interested in smaller linebackers, at least at a high round price. This is why I have Knott currently in my mock as he comes with a relatively cheap price.

[ATippett56]

Originally Posted by mackenzie45220

He reminds me Solder except he's a bit more fundamentally sound, but has a bit less strength

The original comment was based on the current overall draft rating and availability in the late first round than overall talent.

[mackenzie45220]

Originally Posted by ATippett56

I'd rather re-sign Welker, Edelman, Salas than select any wide receiver in the 2013 NFL Draft.

Another undersized center? Please NO!

If you want a center, make it Khaled Holmes. Best center I have ever scouted. What a lot of people don't realize is that centers don't have to be great blockers. In the NFL, their main job is to be the quarterback of the offensive line (that's why they have their head up pre-snap). They are making line audibles and it's their job to make sure no one is left unblocked on any given play. If a player is left unblocked, you can pretty much blame the center. Holmes does a brilliant job of making line calls in USC's pro-style offense. He was injured for the Stanford game, and USC's entire offensive line collapsed without his presence making line calls and acting like an on field coach. He's amazing. He has Kevin Mawae's football IQ. He's that good.

[Luxusdk]

Originally Posted by Merril Hoge's Tie Knot

Maybe, but it's no coincidence that Watt, Campbell, and JPP are better at it than anyone. Vertical leap is also a good measurement for first step and explosion.

Don't think we have seen the full effect of the freakis things Chandler Jones can do this year, with he's long arms. JPP needed a year so did JJ.Swat.

But right now i doubt Ziggy will go less the second round. Could be a late riser.
But the frame, numbers, plays inside and outside - all those things remind me of Seamour... He's 6.6 around 300 But i think Ziggy has better agility then Seamour, there makes him alot more fun. Without knowing combined stats i think ill take him right now for pats 1 round pick.


Wingpan: 85 3/4" C Jones 83 7/8"Smith 81" JPP 82.1/2 JJ.Watt
Arms: 35 1/2" 35 3/8" 34 6/8" 34"
Upper body strength: 22 reps @ 225 20 19 34
Explosiveness: vertical 35" 34" 30.5" 37"
Board Jump: 10" 9'10" 9'07" 10"
Short area burst:10 yard split 1.63 1.65 1.68 1.64
Agility: 3-cone 7.07 7.18 7.22 6.88
Short shuffle: 4.38 4.55 4.67 4.21

There you have the numbers, as we can see Chandler have the biggest wingpan.
Watt is abit more freak the Chandler when talking about agility/strength etc, but not vs batting balls down.

What we also have to remmeber is, all the others have atleast 1 partner in crime, where Chandler have to do it alone ( know Ninko have looked better but still ) so with atleast 1 more to help out, he's number's might become even better - Atleast the number's look's good !

[ATippett56]

Originally Posted by mackenzie45220

If you want a center, make it Khaled Holmes.

I'd prefer the New England Patriots select a right offensive guard in the 2013 NFL Draft as a potential starter with Dan Connolly shifted back to center.

[ATippett56]

Originally Posted by ATippett56

I'd rather re-sign Welker, Edelman, Salas than select any wide receiver in the 2013 NFL Draft.

Another undersized center? Please NO!

Interesting!

Source: Patriots triple Salas' salary - New England Patriots Blog - ESPN Boston

[Dago]

Mark Harrison from Rutgers?
had a good 2010 but struggled in 2011...
someone knows why?
how is doing 2012?

[mayoclinic]

Originally Posted by ATippett56

I'd prefer the New England Patriots select a right offensive guard in the 2013 NFL Draft as a potential starter with Dan Connolly shifted back to center.

Mississippi St. OG Gabe Jackson would fit nicely. 6'4" 320#. A bit reminiscent of Brian Waters. Physical, tough, durable.

[ctpatsfan77]

Originally Posted by mackenzie45220

If you want a center, make it Khaled Holmes. Best center I have ever scouted. What a lot of people don't realize is that centers don't have to be great blockers. In the NFL, their main job is to be the quarterback of the offensive line (that's why they have their head up pre-snap). They are making line audibles and it's their job to make sure no one is left unblocked on any given play. If a player is left unblocked, you can pretty much blame the center. Holmes does a brilliant job of making line calls in USC's pro-style offense. He was injured for the Stanford game, and USC's entire offensive line collapsed without his presence making line calls and acting like an on field coach. He's amazing. He has Kevin Mawae's football IQ. He's that good.

Mackenzie: FWIW, Belichick doesn't seem to have much enthusiasm for USC players. Certainly in the past he hasn't seemed to buy into the hype (e.g., passing up on Matthews, Cushing, et al., in 2009).