The 2013 Prospect Thread - Page 201 - New England Patriots Forums

***mayoclinic*** · 01-10-2013, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by manxman2601

Good for Kyle Long and Menelik Watson. As high upside guys, they'll get a look from teams in the late first and second rounds.

Late 2nd for Watson? That seems like a huge stretch. Love his athleticism, but man, is he raw.

May not be a great time to let Vollmer walk and have to reach for an OT to replace him.

***mayoclinic*** · 01-10-2013, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by manxman2601

Good for Kyle Long and Menelik Watson. As high upside guys, they'll get a look from teams in the late first and second rounds.

BTW, I didn't realize this until just recently - perhaps you did, though I don't recall seeing it mentioned - but Kyle Long and Menelik Watson both played tackle last year for little Saddleback College in Mission Viejo, California. Long transferred to Oregon and Watson (who had to play RT because Long was playing LT) transferred to Florida St. Unreal story. Scar needs to stake that place out.

ATippett56 · 01-10-2013, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by mayoclinic

Late 2nd for Watson? That seems like a huge stretch. Love his athleticism, but man, is he raw.

Brian Winters looks like a steal at the end of third round if Watson and Long are rated ahead of him.

***mayoclinic*** · 01-10-2013, 04:51 PM

Not official yet, but Dee Milliner and Eddie Lacy rumored to be declaring shortly:

Eddie Lacy, Dee Milliner expected to leave Alabama for 2013 NFL Draft - SBNation.com

ATippett56 · 01-10-2013, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by mayoclinic

May not be a great time to let Vollmer walk and have to reach for an OT to replace him.

Rob Rang's analysis of the upcoming offensive tackle draft class differs with your opinion.

2013 NFL Draft: CU's Bakhtiari, LSU's Faulk add to surprising OT class - CBSSports

***mayoclinic*** · 01-10-2013, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ATippett56

Rob Rang's analysis of the upcoming offensive tackle draft class differs with your opinion.

2013 NFL Draft: CU's Bakhtiari, LSU's Faulk add to surprising OT class - CBSSports

Yes, it does. That seems a tad optimistic to me. Does Bakhtiari and Faulk coming out help? Sure. Is it in any way close to what Lewan and Matthews would have provided? Not to my mind. I personally don't see Rang's "one of this year's top position groups" evaluation. JMHO.

One other thought: Oday Aboushi could benefit greatly from the absence of Lewan and Matthews.

ATippett56 · 01-10-2013, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by mayoclinic

Yes, it does. That seems a tad optimistic to me. Does Bakhtiari and Faulk coming out help? Sure. Is it in any way close to what Lewan and Matthews would have provided? Not to my mind. I personally don't see Rang's "one of this year's top position groups" evaluation. JMHO.

One other thought: Oday Aboushi could benefit greatly from the absence of Lewan and Matthews.

After last year's draft, I don't cling to "draft binkies" as much as in the past.

Seriously, draft Jake "the bust" Bequette, with T-Rex arms nonetheless, over wide receiver Marvin Jones or defensive tackle Josh Chapman?

***mayoclinic*** · 01-10-2013, 05:24 PM

Current NFL DraftScout rankings of OT prospects (some of whom project to guard), with the relative values in bold:

1. Luke Joeckel, Texas A&M
11. Eric Fisher, Central Michigan
14. Lane Johnson, Oklahoma
28. DJ Fluker, Alabama
36. Oday Aboushi, Virginia Tech
42. Kyle Long, Oregon
50. Dallas Thomas, Tennessee
55. Justin Pugh, Syracuse
67. Chris Faulk, LSU
77. Menelik Watson, Florida
87. David Bakhtiari, Colorado
113. Brennan Williams, North Carolina (coming off an injury)
121. Brian Winters, Kent St.
137. Rich Wagner, Wisconsin
148. Xavier Nixon, Florida
160. David Quessenberry, San Jose St.
178. Reid Fragel, Ohio St.
228. Terron Armstead, Arkansas-Pine Bluff
403. Garrett Gilkey, Chadron St.
432. Luke Marquardt, Asuza Pacific
489. Vinston Painter, Virginia Tech

What's the common theme about the guys in bold. Almost all of them - every single one, I believe, except for Vinston Painter - has been championed by none other than Brother Manx.