The 2013 Prospect Thread

[Merril Hoge's Tie Knot]

Originally Posted by manxman2601

I'm with Mayo. I'm not convinced adding a first round pick to the secondary is desirable (or 2nd round for that matter). The one possible exception for me is David Amerson and that's only because I'm intrigued by his height and play-making ability. I do have other concerns with him.

That's not to say that I don't love watching Matt Elam, I really do, he's a fantastic player although I'm less convinced he's a great fit for the Pats.

There are some really nice later round safety options in this draft: Dexter McCoil, Shamarko Thomas, Rontez Miles, John Boyett, Malcolm Bronson, DJ Swearinger and others.

The thing I love the most about Matt Elam is the energy he brings to the field. It's almost tangible. It's like Ray Lewis or Troy Polamalu. I don't think we need him or any safety for that matter, but if we took Elam I wouldn't mind. I just love the player. He'd complement McCourty (who has been on fire lately) well too.

[mackenzie45220]

Originally Posted by Merril Hoge's Tie Knot

Care to expand on this?

I already have
Robert Woods- 2013 NFL Draft Scouting Report - NFL Mocks - 2013 NFL Mock Draft, Fantasy Football, NFL News, and NFL Mock Draft Databases
The projection is outdated (was considered a top 10 prospect at the time), and, if anything, my grade of him is now lower.

[mackenzie45220]

Originally Posted by Merril Hoge's Tie Knot

The thing I love the most about Matt Elam is the energy he brings to the field. It's almost tangible. It's like Ray Lewis or Troy Polamalu. I don't think we need him or any safety for that matter, but if we took Elam I wouldn't mind. I just love the player. He'd complement McCourty (who has been on fire lately) well too.

That's fair. Frankly, I like Elam as a top 20 prospect. But I like Jefferson in the top 30 AND he might be available at 60. It's all about value.

[manxman2601]

DeAndre Hopkins had a monster night and barring a bad 40 time, if he declares he should be a first round pick for somebody. His nickname is "Nuke!" I wouldn't mind the Foxboro faithful chanting "Nuke!" every time he catches the ball from Brady

In all seriousness, he showed amazing hands tonight and tremendous route running. Had a fantastic clutch catch on 4th and long in the final two minutes. I do wonder whether he's 4.4 quick though.

[kennyb]

Originally Posted by manxman2601

DeAndre Hopkins had a monster night and barring a bad 40 time, if he declares he should be a first round pick for somebody. His nickname is "Nuke!" I wouldn't mind the Foxboro faithful chanting "Nuke!" every time he catches the ball from Brady

In all seriousness, he showed amazing hands tonight and tremendous route running. Had a fantastic clutch catch on 4th and long in the final two minutes. I do wonder whether he's 4.4 quick though.

malliciah goodman looked good too at DE.

[Merril Hoge's Tie Knot]

Originally Posted by mackenzie45220

I already have
Robert Woods- 2013 NFL Draft Scouting Report - NFL Mocks - 2013 NFL Mock Draft, Fantasy Football, NFL News, and NFL Mock Draft Databases
The projection is outdated (was considered a top 10 prospect at the time), and, if anything, my grade of him is now lower.

You said "He sucks." He definitely does not "suck."

I didn't read the report. I will, but I don't have time now. The film awaits.

Originally Posted by mackenzie45220

That's fair. Frankly, I like Elam as a top 20 prospect. But I like Jefferson in the top 30 AND he might be available at 60. It's all about value.

God damn right. I haven't seen Jefferson play so I can't comment. Who would you him compare too?

[mayoclinic]

Russ Lande says scouts like Manx's boy Terron Armstead:

Terron Armstead, OT / OG, Arkansas-PineBluff, Senior (6044, 303 and 4.83): All fall NFL scouts were flocking to Pine Bluff to evaluate Armstead and nearly all of them have been impressed. At 6-4 with 34+ arms, Armstead has the length to stay at tackle or make the move inside to guard depending on the team that drafts him. A great athlete with rare explosiveness for an offensive lineman, Armstead makes it look easy getting outside to block in space. Blessed with the natural strength to control man once he locks on, he is able to do so despite not blocking with a nasty or aggressive attitude. In addition to being a dominant football player at Pine Bluff, Armstead has been one of the best track athletes in the SWAC and if he can continue developing that athleticism onto the football field he could become a star in the NFL. Do not be surprised if Armstead ends up being a third or fourth round pick in the 2013 Draft.

What NFP is hearing - Draft Rumblings. | National Football Post

Why am I not surprised that scouts would be high on someone Manx likes?

[manxman2601]

Originally Posted by mayoclinic

Russ Lande says scouts like Manx's boy Terron Armstead:



What NFP is hearing - Draft Rumblings. | National Football Post

Why am I not surprised that scouts would be high on someone Manx likes?

Thanks. Let's see. Kyle Long was being talked of as a seventh rounder when you "discovered" him. He's now being talked of as top-100. Dion Jordan could go top 10 etc etc. You do damn well yourself.

We should, as PatsFans, set up a Blesto rival.

[mayoclinic]

Originally Posted by manxman2601

Thanks. Let's see. Kyle Long was being talked of as a seventh rounder when you "discovered" him. He's now being talked of as top-100. Dion Jordan could go top 10 etc etc. You do damn well yourself.

We should, as PatsFans, set up a Blesto rival.

Hey, when I jump on the Armstead bandwagon and probably end including him in some mocks, I fully expect to see some reference's to "Mayo's boy Armstead" down the road.

[mackenzie45220]

Originally Posted by manxman2601

DeAndre Hopkins had a monster night and barring a bad 40 time, if he declares he should be a first round pick for somebody. His nickname is "Nuke!" I wouldn't mind the Foxboro faithful chanting "Nuke!" every time he catches the ball from Brady

In all seriousness, he showed amazing hands tonight and tremendous route running. Had a fantastic clutch catch on 4th and long in the final two minutes. I do wonder whether he's 4.4 quick though.

I agree with all of the above. He doesn't have 4.4 speed, but he is an elite route runner who knows how to deceive with his eyes. He reminds me of Cecil Shorts (who quietly had a pretty good season).