The 2013 Prospect Thread

[mayoclinic]

Originally Posted by Snake Eyes

This is about binkies dammit

I'm going to go on record that Ansah is going to be a force in the league, as soon as I saw film on him I knew he'd be great, and I knew about him and endorsed him before he really caught on.

This isn't about logic, it's about binkies!

I want him, too. But if he goes earlier, he goes earlier.

We missed out on JJ Watt. How great would he have been. But we got Nate Solder. And how great he's becoming for us.

But I understand binkylust quite well. I'm just suppressing it.

[Snake Eyes]

Originally Posted by mayoclinic

I want him, too. But if he goes earlier, he goes earlier.

We missed out on JJ Watt. How great would he have been. But we got Nate Solder. And how great he's becoming for us.

But I understand binkylust quite well. I'm just suppressing it.

Binkielust cannot be supressed, if you try it just rebounds back twice as fierce

It can only be transferred, perhaps if I got some tape of Louis Nix I could throw some his way

Does anyone have any links to tape of Nick Kasa? He's a fascinating prospect based on his physicality but I can't see him play.

[patsfaninpa]

Matt Elam is my binky this year. He plays like a crazy SOB. Even drilled a couple of teammates to celebrate at times. He played a dominant game vs LSU. Check the 2nd play.
Hear he's going back for his senior year. l

2012 Florida Gators vs LSU Highlights (Dirty) - YouTube

I think he plays with that Rodney-esque chip on his shoulders.

FSU vs UF 2011 Elam slams Thomas - YouTube

[mayoclinic]

Originally Posted by patsfaninpa

I think he plays with that Rodney-esque chip on his shoulders.

Michael Silver from Yahoo.com had a nice article yesterday on Seattle CB Richard Sherman, who was one of my binkie's in 2011:

Seahawks' Richard Sherman wants to 'destroy' the NFL and become the best CB of all time - Yahoo! Sports

Sherman has a Brady-esque chip on his shoulders from being passed up in the draft in favor of guys he considered inferior prospects. He obviously considered it a humiliating experience. Like Brady, he's an ultra-competitive and highly driven guy.

Those are the kind of guys you want to find in the draft. Guys not just with superior talent, but with the inner fire and drive, and hopefully a chip on their shoulder driving them to be the best. Rodney had it. Welker has it. Brady is the poster boy for it. Alfonzo Dennard may have a little bit of that. Figuring out who some of those ultra-competitive, ultra-driven guys are and targeting them might be an interesting approach. And if some of those guys slip a bit and get a chip on their shoulder ... watch out.

Anyone have any thoughts as to who some of those guys might be in this draft?

[manxman2601]

Originally Posted by mayoclinic

Michael Silver from Yahoo.com had a nice article yesterday on Seattle CB Richard Sherman, who was one of my binkie's in 2011:

Seahawks' Richard Sherman wants to 'destroy' the NFL and become the best CB of all time - Yahoo! Sports

Sherman has a Brady-esque chip on his shoulders from being passed up in the draft in favor of guys he considered inferior prospects. He obviously considered it a humiliating experience. Like Brady, he's an ultra-competitive and highly driven guy.

Those are the kind of guys you want to find in the draft. Guys not just with superior talent, but with the inner fire and drive, and hopefully a chip on their shoulder driving them to be the best. Rodney had it. Welker has it. Brady is the poster boy for it. Alfonzo Dennard may have a little bit of that. Figuring out who some of those ultra-competitive, ultra-driven guys are and targeting them might be an interesting approach. And if some of those guys slip a bit and get a chip on their shoulder ... watch out.

Anyone have any thoughts as to who some of those guys might be in this draft?

John Simon. Because I think he'll fall. He's already got that character drive so think of his fall being a top up to an already driven character.

Jarvis Jones. Wouldn't surprise me in the least if he falls to the bottom of the first or even into the 2nd round (Spinal Stenosis).

[manxman2601]

I hope he accepts:

The Senior Bowl has also extended an invitation to Ohio State right tackle Reid Fragel, though Fragel has not yet committed to the game.

Fragel played in 39 games at tight end, making nine starts, in his first three college seasons before starting all 12 games at right tackle last season. The 2012 Ohio State roster listed Fragel at 6'8, 310.

"When I was at Ohio State in September to watch practice, (Fragel's) talent was obvious," Savage said. "He has a long way to go, and it's too early to tell how he'll fit in this draft with guys who have been playing the position for so long, but he's certainly an intriguing project.

"He has the athleticism. It will be interesting to see how he holds the weight he added to play tackle. There's a possibility teams will look at him at left tackle because of his athleticism."

John Simon has accepted an invite to the Senior Bowl.

Ohio State's Simon to play in Senior Bowl

[ctpatsfan77]

Originally Posted by manxman2601

Must remember not to go on the main board anymore. Unless you're prepared to be an all out sycophant for the Patriots, you're not welcome over there. Rational thinking does not apply.

at least there's some semblance of detachment in talking about draft picks.

There really is a witch hunt in the main forum.

I wouldn't say that there's a big witch hunt, or calls for a purity test.

That said, we have, in the past, had more than a few posters who seemingly cannot find anything positive to say about the Patriots. For example, I know one poster whose recurring theme was that Brady had "gotten soft" or somesuch and that the Patriots should trade him before it's too late.

And then, of course, there's the return of NEM. . . .

[Merril Hoge's Tie Knot]

Originally Posted by mayoclinic

Those are the kind of guys you want to find in the draft. Guys not just with superior talent, but with the inner fire and drive, and hopefully a chip on their shoulder driving them to be the best. Rodney had it. Welker has it. Brady is the poster boy for it. Alfonzo Dennard may have a little bit of that. Figuring out who some of those ultra-competitive, ultra-driven guys are and targeting them might be an interesting approach. And if some of those guys slip a bit and get a chip on their shoulder ... watch out.

Yes, absolutely. Rodgers has it too. I've been thinking about this idea for a while now, since I saw Brady 6. I only applied it to quarterbacks, but applying the idea to other positions is a good idea. I'm not surprised it came from you, Mayo.

Originally Posted by mayoclinic

Anyone have any thoughts as to who some of those guys might be in this draft?

That's hard to figure out, especially only at this stage and without the resources of NFL teams. Perhaps you could find former top prospects that haven fallen. That could cause a "chip" but it wouldn't necessitate the ultra competitiveness or drive.

[Merril Hoge's Tie Knot]

Originally Posted by patsfaninpa

Matt Elam is my binky this year. He plays like a crazy SOB. Even drilled a couple of teammates to celebrate at times. He played a dominant game vs LSU. Check the 2nd play.
Hear he's going back for his senior year. l

2012 Florida Gators vs LSU Highlights (Dirty) - YouTube

Elam is a beast. I referenced that very play 2 months ago.

Now I only scouted him vs LSU last Sat, but he was easily the best player there that day. I only had two criticisms. One he's shorter than ideal at 5'10", and two he was so energetic and physical that hurt his teammates in celebrations.

The 2013 Prospect Thread

[Merril Hoge's Tie Knot]

Has anybody watched film of Ra'Shede Hageman vs UNLV and seen him play in more recent games too? I'm wondering how much improvement he showed between the two games.