The 2013 Prospect Thread

[manxman2601]

Originally Posted by Avenger

The QB class doesn't look too hot this year maybe Mallet gets flipped and we sign Cassel back on the cheap.

The class isn't great at the top, but is very good at the second level.

[mayoclinic]

Originally Posted by Avenger

The QB class doesn't look too hot this year maybe Mallet gets flipped and we sign Cassel back on the cheap.

I can see it now:

Ringgg! Ringgg!

SP: This is Scott. Is that really you, Bill?

BB: Yup. Winning the SB last week made me think of the "Glory Years" we had together, and I just wanted to share a little of it with you.

SP: Great to hear from you, Bill. That's awfully generous. And congratulations on finally winning another Super Bowl. About time. I thought you would pull it off last year, but at least this year you closed the deal. (Gets teary eyed). I sure do miss all those Super Bowls.

BB: Well, it's amazing what you can do with a guy like Tom Brady at QB. Imagine, half the teams in the NFL don't even have a decent starting QB ... Oh, I'm sorry, that was insensitive of me.

SP: Well Bill, I guess you have the right to gloat. I mean, I thought Matt Cassel was going to be special at one point, but he just couldn't get over the hump. But hey, I've got the #1 draft pick, and even Brady can't go on forever.

BB: Yeah, imagine that, the #1 draft pick in a draft without a #1 QB. That really sucks. If it had been last year you could have had Andrew Luck. Think I wouldn't rather see the kid go to you than to those b*st*rds in Indy? As for Brady, he's still going strong. And this kid Mallett is going to be something special, so I'm really not worried about when Brady decides to hang up his cleats.

SP: Something special?

BB: Oh yeah. He always had the arm. He's a really film junkie, and he's been using Brady to learn the finer points of the game. Like I said, I'm just not worried.

SP: How do you think he compares to this year's prospects?

BB: This year? There's nothing coming out. Nothing. Matt Barkley is short and overrated. Geno Smith is a scrambler and overrated. Neither is top 10 material. Mike Glennon? Flavor of the day. Hell, if you took every QB in this draft and packaged them together I wouldn't trade the bunch for Mallett.

[b]SP:[b] You don't say.

BB: You do say. Hey, if I had the #1 pick I'd rather try and trade for a kid like Mallett - not that we'd trade him, mind you - and use the #1 pick on a guy like Jarvis Jones, or a stud LT like Luke Joeckel. Or better yet, trade down and get back what you traded for a real QB, and pick up a couple of solid players. Your defense isn't half bad, and you've got a running game. It's all about putting points on the board - hey, did you like how we shattered the 2007 record, by the way?

SP: Yeah, that was great. You said you wouldn't consider trading the kid.

BB: Not a chance. Not for at least a 1st round pick, and with #1 in the draft, that's not an option for you. Unless you pull a Cleveland and trade back like they did for that turkey Weedon. But there's no one at the top of this draft that any team will give that kind of bonanza for.

SP: Hey, wat about #33 overall? You always said that was better than a 1st round pick.

BB: Yeah, but that was before I wasted the damn 33rd pick on Dowling in 2011. Besides, draft picks are overrated. Look how Greg Bedard howled about trading a bloody 4th for Aqib Talib - his 2 pick 6's started the SB rout for us. No, I've decided that all that stockpiling draft picks and trading into the future stuff was overrated.

SP: I see your point. But this is a pretty deep draft, from what I hear. You might get someone who can actually play around 33. What do you say we think it over?

BB: Well, I hate Oakland and Denver, and I'd love to see someone actually put Peyton in his place. I'll think about it. But don't hold your breath - the kid is good, and I think I'd have to be a fool to do that trade. But I'll think about it.

SP: Gee thanks Bill. I'll call you next week. Bye. And great SB win. Really great.

BB: Thanks. Talk to you later Scott.

(Hangs up, grinning).

Something like that.

[manxman2601]

Originally Posted by mayoclinic

I can see it now:



Something like that.

Later

BB (phone rings) Bill Belichick here


SP Hi Bill, it's Scott.


BB. What can I do for you Scott?


SP. We've been mulling this QB issue over and over and we've decided that we'd like to offer our #33 for him.


BB. That's great Scott but we're not overly enchanted with this class. Let me suggest something. As you know, it's generally recognized that a pick in the following years draft is worth a round higher than the current draft. How about you trade your 2014 1st for Mallett?


SP. I don't know Bill, thant's a high price.

BB. But you'll have your starting QB in place and you'll have two picks in the top 33 this year. with such a weak division, you could make a real push for the playoffs.


SP. That's why they call you the genius Bill. OK. We'll do it.


BB. Done (smiles)

Much, much later

April, 2014


With the first pick in the 2014 NFL draft, the New England Patriots select Jadeveon Clowney, Defensive End, South Carolina

[Merril Hoge's Tie Knot]

BB: Hey Scott, it's Bill. I was just calling to tell you that Ron Brace is the next Wilfork!

[mackenzie45220]

Originally Posted by ATippett56

Abry Jones, DT, Georgia, NFL Draft - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com

Abry Jones, DT from Georgia could be a value pick if the New England Patriots trade down and acquire a fourth round or fifth round draft pick.

He's not good

[mackenzie45220]

Originally Posted by manxman2601

The class isn't great at the top, but is very good at the second level.

Couldn't agree more. By the way, I heard you loved Marvin Jones. You're in good company

[manxman2601]

Originally Posted by mackenzie45220

Couldn't agree more. By the way, I heard you loved Marvin Jones. You're in good company

I love intelligent footballers and Jones knew how to play the game. His sideline judgement was fantastic.

I see Markus Wheaton very much the same. you?


I finally got round to watching your UCLA CB pair. They're fascinating. You watch them and think they're fantastic but then realise that they're not always achieving that much. If it wasn't for one game where one of them got 3 INT's (can't remember which one - they're seperated at birth) they've only got two int's each over two years. They look perfect for the role, but where's the production? Is it athletic limitations? Scheme?

[Merril Hoge's Tie Knot]

If Nix III comes out is he out of our range? I'm not even halfway through my first ND game and I'm already in love. I've yet to seem him single teamed, and the way he dismisses blockers to plug a gap, he looks like Wilfork.

It's only vs Wake Forest, but once I'm finished with this I'm going to the USC game.

Does Tuitt - Nix III - Lewis-Moore remind anyone else of Seymour - Wilfork - Warren?

[manxman2601]

Originally Posted by Merril Hoge's Tie Knot

If Nix III comes out is he out of our range? I'm not even halfway through my first ND game and I'm already in love. I've yet to seem him single teamed, and the way he dismisses blockers to plug a gap, he looks like Wilfork.

It's only vs Wake Forest, but once I'm finished with this I'm going to the USC game.

Does Tuitt - Nix III - Lewis-Moore remind anyone else of Seymour - Wilfork - Warren?

DL porn!!!

[Merril Hoge's Tie Knot]

Originally Posted by manxman2601

DL porn!!!

Yeah. The ideal grizzly would be longer than Nix III, and fit better as a 5 tech so Wilfork could retake the 0 in the 3-4. Brockers basically, but if you think Nix III can be the next elite nose tackle then he'd be more than worth a trade up.

I wish Brockers fell. He already has 3 sacks and only has played 7 games.

I just saw Nix III get triple teamed, then effortlessly disengage all three and sniff out a RB screen. Beast!! as Grid would say.