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Old 04-25-2012, 05:13 AM   #1
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Just one guy's opinion of course, but in my opinion it's been a while since it's been this pathetic. This may be epic suckage, as in 2007 terms.

Although I was not initially, I'm fully on board now with the thought of packaging picks and moving up.

The more I think about it, the more I don't see more than 4-5 players actually being kept for the 53 man roster anyway.

Hopefully we can come out of this with some kind of front seven depth, and an additional guy on the backline. Other than that, it's going to be the ultimate guessing game. The only WR I really like besides the obvious early guys is the kid from Illinois, AJ Jenkins. 90 catches last yr, and ran a 4.36 at the combine.

The TE's suck, the S's suck (besides Barron), there are very limited guys in many positions including RB too.

Sorry for the negativity, just wondering if anyone else sees it quite this badly?
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Old 04-25-2012, 05:20 AM   #2
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When 1st round guys have the same grades as 3rd round guys, yeah it's looking bleak.

On Jenkins, I think he might go earlier than expected. If St. Louis takes Cox at six I would look for them to take him with their first pick in the second round.
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Kid from Vandy (CB) may be worth a shot.

I also think that T.Johnson or M.Martin may be one of our safeties.

Regardless, they'll probably all go within the second round, after that it's a total crapshoot.

I also think there's going to be the usual amount (or more) of first/second round bust picks too. Finding them is undoubtedly the obvious key, but that may be harder than it looks.

Which Jenkins are you talking about? I'm referring to the WR AJ Jenkins, I assume that you are too. I agree that he will go higher than expected, definitely in the second round.

Janoris Jenkins is another guessing game, as someone may take him in the late first/early second, while he could also slide a lot too.
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Just one guy's opinion of course, but in my opinion it's been a while since it's been this pathetic. This may be epic suckage, as in 2007 terms.

Although I was not initially, I'm fully on board now with the thought of packaging picks and moving up.

The more I think about it, the more I don't see more than 4-5 players actually being kept for the 53 man roster anyway.

Hopefully we can come out of this with some kind of front seven depth, and an additional guy on the backline. Other than that, it's going to be the ultimate guessing game. The only WR I really like besides the obvious early guys is the kid from Illinois, AJ Jenkins. 90 catches last yr, and ran a 4.36 at the combine.

The TE's suck, the S's suck (besides Barron), there are very limited guys in many positions including RB too.

Sorry for the negativity, just wondering if anyone else sees it quite this badly?
While I haven't been paying attention to the draft like i have in the past from what ive read i agree. Unless someone falls I can see trading both first round picks.
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Kid from Vandy (CB) may be worth a shot.

I also think that T.Johnson or M.Martin may be one of our safeties.

Regardless, they'll probably all go within the second round, after that it's a total crapshoot.

I also think there's going to be the usual amount (or more) of first/second round bust picks too. Finding them is undoubtedly the obvious key, but that may be harder than it looks.

Which Jenkins are you talking about? I'm referring to the WR AJ Jenkins, I assume that you are too. I agree that he will go higher than expected, definitely in the second round.

Janoris Jenkins is another guessing game, as someone may take him in the late first/early second, while he could also slide a lot too.
The WR.

J. Jenkins I think won't be drafted by us, although I admit it would be refreshing to have a CB who could, you know, actually cover a receiver.

I agree on the bust factor; it's probably going to come down largely to luck of the draw.

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I agree that I don't think there are too many inspiring players. I could see us taking a surprise player in the 1st round who is not at a position of need just because they have a much higher grade than some others - it might be Martin or Zeitler or one of the tackles.

I think it might be similar to 2007 where we zone in on a few good players and then try and get some picks for next year. I am now all in favour of trading up for Barron/Brockers with one small caveat - that we have been unable to agree a deal in principle pre draft with someone for a 1st rounder next year.
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Not if your looking for a Wr or Cb.
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Several NFL people and draft guru's that I've heard consider this an average draft. 2010 was considered an above averge draft. 2007 was considered a below average draft.

This years draft is considered the same as last years- average. But no one will really know that for a couple of years.
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Sorry for the negativity, just wondering if anyone else sees it quite this badly?
There's a lot less people on my board this year. And I think the first round sucks a little, and the back end of the draft seems weak. But we have no picks in that range - which might've been great foresight on Belichick's part, even if Ocho/Haynesworth netted us very little (worth the risk).

That said, I see a lot of guys with round 2 or so grades worth taking. The goal is to get into that sweet spot and pillage the deep area of this draft. If we can flip those #1s at the end of the round into more picks in the sweet spot, and picks in 2013, this draft will be a huge success comparative to the rest of the league.

If anything, the draft having such a narrow sweet spot will then work to our advantage. The rest of the league, typically with only one pick per round throughout, and a less cavalier approach to moving those picks, will be stuck with whatever value the draft does or does not present. Belichick will make the draft do what he wants.
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Just one guy's opinion of course, but in my opinion it's been a while since it's been this pathetic. This may be epic suckage, as in 2007 terms.

Although I was not initially, I'm fully on board now with the thought of packaging picks and moving up.

The more I think about it, the more I don't see more than 4-5 players actually being kept for the 53 man roster anyway.

Hopefully we can come out of this with some kind of front seven depth, and an additional guy on the backline. Other than that, it's going to be the ultimate guessing game. The only WR I really like besides the obvious early guys is the kid from Illinois, AJ Jenkins. 90 catches last yr, and ran a 4.36 at the combine.

The TE's suck, the S's suck (besides Barron), there are very limited guys in many positions including RB too.

Sorry for the negativity, just wondering if anyone else sees it quite this badly?
Oh, I'm sure certain of them DO!!

Every draft is REPLETE with Opportunities, my friend. You just have to dig them up.

Have a drink or two and take a nap, my friend: Negativity ain't your style.
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