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Old 03-07-2012, 01:58 PM   #901
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Am I one of the few who will slap my forehead if the Patriots buy into the Brockers hype anywhere before our 3rd or 4th pick??

The guy has the measurables but he's raw as hell..and he's from a program that, despite it's renowned reputation in developing pro prospects, seems to churn out bust after bust on the defensive line consistently! That's not a coincidence...just like it is no coincidence you can almost safely say if you pick an OT out of somewhere like Iowa you're getting a solid pick...as they are renowned for their O Line prospects!
I'm not as up on Brockers as some are. Can't deny that size wise, he's an ideal fit for a 3-4 DE though. For me, it's Devon Still all the way for that position.
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Old 03-07-2012, 03:51 PM   #902
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I'm not as up on Brockers as some are. Can't deny that size wise, he's an ideal fit for a 3-4 DE though. For me, it's Devon Still all the way for that position.
Still seems to be dropping. He didn't finish the season as well as it started. But, there are two legitimate reasons imo not excuses. We may benefit by his being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

1. He got the flu before the OSU game and didn't practice for 2 weeks. Wasn't up to par against Wisky and played poorly.

2. Once the Sandusky news hit the airways. It was impossible to keep the team focused. Joepa fired. Interim coach Bradley hired. Once the season ended. All of the assistants were scrambling trying to find jobs. Poor preparation for the bowl game is on the school. Not the team.

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He's a pro MMA fighter now, so I'm sure he is still in great shape.
He claims to be in better shape than he was when he was in his twenties. I saw the pictures and I believe him, he could make an impact on a team. Instead of lifting weights, he has a daily regimen of 3,500 sit-ups, 1,500 push-ups and eight mile runs.
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Old 03-07-2012, 05:40 PM   #904
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Todd McShay has a new first-round mock.

McShay's updated draft projection - New England Patriots Blog - ESPN Boston

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Count McShay among those who believe Illinois outside linebacker/defensive end Whitney Mercilus is a possible fit at the No. 27 pick for the Patriots.
"New England needs pass-rush help, and Mercilus has a nonstop motor and a knack for making big plays (FBS-best nine forced fumbles in 2011)," McShay writes.
Then, at No. 31, McShay slots Penn State defensive lineman Devon Still to the Patriots.
"Still could show more consistency, but if the Patriots get their pass-rusher at No. 27 and there are no viable options available at wide receiver, he would offer an upgrade over DTs Kyle Love and Ron Brace in four-man fronts," McShay writes.
In his previous mock draft, McShay had Syracuse defensive end/outside linebacker Chandler Jones (27) and Clemson defensive lineman Brandon Thompson (31) going to the Patriots. Both of those players have dropped out of the first round in McShay's latest mock.
From this preview, here are his first five picks:
  1. Colts - QB Andrew Luck
  2. Rams - WR Justin Blackmon
  3. Vikings - OT Matt Kalil
  4. Browns - QB Robert Griffin
  5. Bucs - CB Morris Clairborne


From this column McShay has the Jets using the 16th pick on S Mark Barron

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"Barron could fall a bit because of recent hernia surgery, but all indications are that the surgery won't be a short- or long-term concern. Safeties are becoming more important because of the emergence of tight ends in NFL passing games -- and in the AFC East in particular because of the New England Patriots' duo of Rob Gronkowski and Aaron Hernandez -- and Barron is far and away the most complete safety in the draft with his strength in run support and playmaking ability in coverage. Throw in the fact that Jets S Jim Leonhard has finished each of the last two seasons on injured reserve, and Barron is an upgrade."
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#3 Vikings - OT Matt Kalil
#19 Bears - WR Michael Floyd
#23 Lions - CB Stephen Gilmore
#28 Packers - LB Nick Perry

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#6 Redskins - OT Riley Reiff
#14 Cowboys - CB Janoris Jenkins
#15 Eagles - DT Dontari Poe
#32 Giants - TE Coby Fleener

Breaking down Kiper, McShay mocks - AFC West Blog - ESPN
#11 Chiefs - RB Trent Richardson
#18 Chargers - OL Cordy Glenn
#25 Broncos - DT Jerel Worthy


So piecing all those together, McShay's post-combine mock looks like this:
  1. Colts - QB Andrew Luck
  2. Rams - WR Justin Blackmon
  3. Vikings - OT Matt Kalil
  4. Browns - QB Robert Griffin
  5. Bucs - CB Morris Clairborne
  6. Redskins - OT Riley Reiff
  7. Jaguars - ???
  8. Dolphins - ???
  9. Panthers - ???
  10. Bills - ???
  11. Chiefs - RB Trent Richardson
  12. Seahawks - ???
  13. Cardinals - ???
  14. Cowboys - CB Janoris Jenkins
  15. Eagles - DT Dontari Poe
  16. Jets - S Mark Barron
  17. Bengals - ???
  18. Chargers - OL Cordy Glenn
  19. Bears - WR Michael Floyd
  20. Titans - ???
  21. Bengals - ???
  22. Browns - ???
  23. Lions - CB Stephen Gilmore
  24. Steelers - ???
  25. Broncos - DT Jerel Worthy
  26. Texans - ???
  27. Patriots - OLB/DE Whitney Mercilus
  28. Packers - LB Nick Perry
  29. Ravens - ???
  30. 49ers - ???
  31. Patriots - DL Devon Still
  32. Giants - TE Coby Fleener
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Do people actually expect Barron to be able to cover either Gronk or Hernandez?
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Old 03-07-2012, 06:11 PM   #906
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Todd McShay has a new first-round mock.

McShay's updated draft projection - New England Patriots Blog - ESPN Boston



From this preview, here are his first five picks:
  1. Colts - QB Andrew Luck
  2. Rams - WR Justin Blackmon
  3. Vikings - OT Matt Kalil
  4. Browns - QB Robert Griffin
  5. Bucs - CB Morris Clairborne


From this column McShay has the Jets using the 16th pick on S Mark Barron



Double dose of mock-draft action - NFC North Blog - ESPN
#3 Vikings - OT Matt Kalil
#19 Bears - WR Michael Floyd
#23 Lions - CB Stephen Gilmore
#28 Packers - LB Nick Perry

We've got new mock drafts - NFC East Blog - ESPN
#6 Redskins - OT Riley Reiff
#14 Cowboys - CB Janoris Jenkins
#15 Eagles - DT Dontari Poe
#32 Giants - TE Coby Fleener

Breaking down Kiper, McShay mocks - AFC West Blog - ESPN
#11 Chiefs - RB Trent Richardson
#18 Chargers - OL Cordy Glenn
#25 Broncos - DT Jerel Worthy


So piecing all those together, McShay's post-combine mock looks like this:
  1. Colts - QB Andrew Luck
  2. Rams - WR Justin Blackmon
  3. Vikings - OT Matt Kalil
  4. Browns - QB Robert Griffin
  5. Bucs - CB Morris Clairborne
  6. Redskins - OT Riley Reiff
  7. Jaguars - ???
  8. Dolphins - ???
  9. Panthers - ???
  10. Bills - ???
  11. Chiefs - RB Trent Richardson
  12. Seahawks - ???
  13. Cardinals - ???
  14. Cowboys - CB Janoris Jenkins
  15. Eagles - DT Dontari Poe
  16. Jets - S Mark Barron
  17. Bengals - ???
  18. Chargers - OL Cordy Glenn
  19. Bears - WR Michael Floyd
  20. Titans - ???
  21. Bengals - ???
  22. Browns - ???
  23. Lions - CB Stephen Gilmore
  24. Steelers - ???
  25. Broncos - DT Jerel Worthy
  26. Texans - ???
  27. Patriots - OLB/DE Whitney Mercilus
  28. Packers - LB Nick Perry
  29. Ravens - ???
  30. 49ers - ???
  31. Patriots - DL Devon Still
  32. Giants - TE Coby Fleener
Thumbs up on Mercilus and Still. Pass rusher and a two-gap de. Just what the doctor ordered. Now, we need a free safety.
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He claims to be in better shape than he was when he was in his twenties.

I saw the pictures and I believe him, he could make an impact on a team.
Well, hell...Why don't we sign'm up, make'm the feature back for 8 weeks, rack up some gaudy stats...and then trade'm to the highest bidder for a few Draft Picks?? Perhaps a really good team that's just that ONE PIECE AWAY from competing for the Super Bowl...??

The Vikings ARE poised for a big rebound, and, hey...what the hell??

It's BEEN 20 years...

Maybe they've forgotten.
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I've been doing some thinking, and I would actually like to see the pats trade back to next year with BOTH first round picks. Get 2 more second rounders this year and 2 more first next, which would give us 3 1st's next year, and give us a chance of getting an early pick. I don't see much of a talent difference between late 1st rounders and mid-seconds this year so it could give us a good position for the future.
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1a. Mark Barron SS Alabama

1b. Janoris Jenkins CB North Alabama

2a. Devon Still DE Penn State

2b. Shea McClellin OLB Boise State

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27. Trade to Tampa Bay. Patriots get 2012 3rd round pick 68, 2012 5th rd pick 140 and 2013 2nd rd pick.

31. Mark Barron Safety Alabama. Not very high on the pick as some but does fill a need in a weak safety class.

48 Shea McClellin OLB Boise State. Love the the player and think he converts nicely.

62. Bruce Irvin OLB West Virginia. Taking LBs in twos. Stud sub package player who develops over time.

68. Josh Robinson CB UCF. Loved the combine and the fact he also projects as a special teams player. He's got good ball skills and teams threw away from him in his junior season. If this kid can break on the ball like he worked out at the combine he could be special.

93. Marvin Jones Wr California. Big strong wr with good hands. Will be the number 2 when the landscape has changed.

126. Billy Winn DE Boise State. He's a good athlete with nice college production. I could easily see this team utilizing his talents.

140. Jarius Wright Wr Arkansas. Speedy with good hands. Future slot receiver and heir to Wes Welker. Will be rejoining his team mate Ryan Mallett and doing good things in future years to come.

Defensive minded draft with a lot of athletic sleepers. Some will say the picks are wrong or they were too early but I was trying to improve the overall feel of the draft with high upside players. Will make a couple of more later on. Players I would like to see fall to us are Upshaw,Mercilus, Cox,Brockers,Still. Probably in that order.

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