bakes781

If you thought the Pats didn't get enough for #7 that's nothing compared to what Baltimore did right after them. Trading #8 overall to the Jags for #26, two 3rds(71, 89) & a 4th(125th overall) was an absolute joke.

mcbee

I thought it was pretty good. 3rd rounders can be gold...cheap too.

They get out of the #8 pick, which is high cost, boom / bust. #26 pick is usually a pretty good player.

I thinkt he draft chart basically overvalues high picks as it doesn't take into account the huge salaries they get.

I'd trade the #1 pick even up for the #28 pick, that's how bad it is. I'd probably trade it even up for a 3rd rounder.

"LOL, that's why you're not a GM!!". Yeah, whatever. The point is that high cost picks are stupid. If he's a bust you ruin the team. If he's not you get fair value for his services.

bakes781

Well compare that to what the Eagles pulled over on the Panthers.

They sent their 1st, #19 overall, to Carolina for their 2nd and 4th round picks this season and a 1st in 2009. And Carolina is likely to be in the bottom half again next season.

sc patriot

Trading a future first is so bad, you never know what will happen to your team. Carolina assumes with a healthier Jake they can make the playoffs, but how do you know. I like the confidence though.

The Ravens and Newsome must be thinking of salary and somehow got nervous their qb would be gone.

Pat the Pats Fan

Baltimore didn't have a lot of room with the cap, so when Ryan was gone, it was prudent for them to trade down. I don't understand their pick though, lower division and all? But, then again, the one position this team has not been able to evaluate and draft effectively has been the QB. Their best draft pick at that position was released after training camp and is now starting for the Browns.

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signbabybrady

Actually I think this was a really good move for the Ravens. Not that I put much stock in the draft charts but if you used that to guage this trade the Ravens really killed them in value.

But more importantly they moved back to a spot where value wise it actually made a little sense to draft the QB they got (still getting the much needed QB) and picked up a whole bunch more talent.

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bakes781

I don't know what value chart you're looking at, but mine says they were off by about 500 points, which amounts to a mid 2nd round pick at worst.

They need OL help just as badly. Granted they did get Oniel Cousins, but would you rather have Flacco/Cousins or Clady/Brohm?

signbabybrady

Seeing as they took Flaco with Brohm still on the board I imagine they would have perfered it their way plus it would have been Flaco/cousins/picks or Clady/Brohm and when you put it that way I'll take Flaco/cousins/picks.

I guess I was off on the draft chart...but I did say I don't care about those things. I thought I heard someone on serius this mourning say the Ravens got 800 points more on the value chart I must have heard it backwards though. I guess it said the Ravens gave up 800 points not got.

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patchick

The thing is, I've now heard people use that one Carolina deal as the justification for calling just about every other trade in the draft lousy. The Carolina deal was the exception, for whatever reason -- it looks like nobody really wanted to trade out and they had to overwhelm Philly. But that doesn't render every other trade in the draft bad. Baltimore wanted a QB, so they HAD to get out of #8 however they could.

The funny thing is that when I read the title of this thread, I assumed it would be about trading up to #18 to draft an incredibly raw shotgun QB from 1-AA.

bakes781

Carolina was dumb too, but at least they got guys of value at those picks with Stewart & Otah. If the Ravens wanted a QB, so bad then why didn't they offer St. Louis everything for Matt Ryan, who Haurbaugh supposedly coveted? Perhaps they did, but in the end I think they just gave Jacksonville a sweetheart deal. By not having to surrender their 2nd round pick the Jags were able to trade up AGAIN to nab Quentin Groves.

Well that only added to the stupidity of it. lol