rsd

Sue me...

I have yet to see any sensible logic from ANYONE advocating DRC for the Patriots (particularly at #7). Its the same people raving (like lunatics) about his "athletic ability". Give me real reasons as to why they would draft him that high, despite the following arguments against it:

1. Why pay a CB that kind of money at #7 when keeping Samuel (a PROVEN player) somewhat comparable money.
2. At best the kid is a 1-2 year project imo. I don't see him starting for the Patriots from day 1. I'd be shocked if anyone can disagree with a straight face.
3. From the brief hints here and there, the kid doesn't seem like a genius when it comes to schemes
4. He had decent to good production at a lower level, but didn't dominate (I admit I'm just regurgitating what I've learned for this point). Fact is, virtually none of us saw this kid play.
5. The Patriots generally draft by value not necessarily by need (let's not get into the whole debate of this, but accept the general point). If Dorsey or DRC is there at #7, I guarantee you barring a trade they go for the big guy.
6. (take this with a grain of salt) But one "Insider" here already said that the Patriots took a small school cb off their board for inexperience/lack of smarts. Many are guessing it is DRC but who knows for sure.

So, again all I hear are people pointing to combine numbers and a handful of plays during an exhibition game. I honestly would like to hear a cogent explanation as to why they would ever take DRC at #7.

MoLewisrocks

If you check the OP's track record - he arrived here to boldly predict last years first round - he's 1 for 32 in first round matches, 2 for 32 if you count a trade up he didn't predict that resulted in the team taking the player he predicted... you will take all this with a grain of salr. Thankfully he's batting zero where the Pats are concerned. His 1 match by the way wasn't nuclear physics as many were predicting Thomas to Cleveland. He had 23 actual first round picks in his first round, the other 9 went anywhere from late 2nd to 7th . He had Meriweather go to Miami at 25 though they traded out of that pick. He had us take Moss who went to Denver via JAX at #17, and then had us take Brandon Siler with pick #28 (thank God Bill instead flipped that pick for #7 this year...Siler finally went in the 7th round).

It gets better though. A day later he posted he hoped we would take OLB Rory Johnson at #28. DaBruinz with his usual grace informed him he was advocating taking a 6th rounder in the first. OP said no way he goes in the 6th, and in fact he didn't. He was an UDFA, signed by GB and released in September...

SamBamsFan

Good memory. It stirred mine.
The Answer at OLB

In fairness- my first mock had us selecting Revis & Grubbs last year. Siler "slipped" into the mid 2nd.

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BradyToMoss

I guess this guy must be a lunatic also:

"Former Auburn star Quentin Groves will be drafted before 24. He is the best pure pass rusher in this draft and he is a better 4-3 defensive end than a 3-4 outside linebacker -- his film at Auburn proves that. I'd guess he is going in round one to Minnesota, Tennessee or Jacksonville....My favorite cornerback in the class is Tennessee State's Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie. I say this because of his excellent ball skills. His hands are so good, that he could be a top prospect at wide receiver. But the thing that makes him really special is what he can do when the ball is in the air. Very few cornerbacks can do what he does."

http://www.draftdaddy.com/blog/nfldraft.cfm

rsd

Ok I'll say it one more time, citing other draft "experts" is not proof of anything. I don't necessarily have an issue with someone saying the kid will be good or whatever, but when you say unequivocally that he is the next Deion Sanders makes you like like a 12-year old at a Hannah Montana concert. NO ONE can say he's the next Deion Sanders with any sort of authority. You simply can't make such a statement without looking like a total fanboy. That's my main issue at least with those carrying the DRC jock.

BradyToMoss

This guy must be 12 also:

"If there's going to be somebody that's as good as Deion that I've (trained) in the last 20 years, it's Dominique," Shaw said. "I think Dominique is a Hall of Famer. The way this kid can react to the football, the way he adjusts ... He's the best receiver I have in this camp. He's a kid that can do everything."

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7...-on-short-list

Deus Irae

You missed something in that same story:

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My2Cents

Two of the most important qualities the Pats value in a prospect are:
1.) athletic ability, and 2.) versatility. Review BB's post-draft comments.
If they value athleticism, why are you so down on it? I don't understand.

That's flawed logic. It's not a case of giving either a rookie CB money or giving a Pro Bowler money. That's just wrong. It was a matter of keeping Moss or Samuel. What rookies get paid has absolutely nothing to do with it.

Again, your logic is wrong. You don't draft a prospect for what he can do from day one. You draft him for the long term. At best, you hope he contributes early.

It's football, not rocket science. "Scouts say he’s a self-starter and a motivator with an obvious passion for football, a big plus with Belichick." [Manza, Projo].

Oh, but you've saw all the others play? Come on. And just because he's from a smaller school he should be penalized. He did all he could last season and made the most of his chances against higher level competition but he still gets no respect.

That's not saying anything, really. There's little to no chance Dorsey is there.

So, just on the off chance that this unnamed "Insider" with unnamed sources might be referring to DRC, we scratch him? That's logical!

Here's a couple of reasons why: DRC

might turn out to be just like the other Cromartie. Great reads. Enjoy them.

VJCPatriot

Here are the Wonderlic scores of some notable CBs in the 2008 draft:

Jacob Tamme 34/34
Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie 19/38
Leodis McKelvin 13/34
Chevis Jackson 15/30
Kenny Phillips 16
Ali Highsmith 7/13

Yeah DRC scored a 38 so the assaults on his intelligence are unmerited. The small school thing, yeah that has some merit. But Demarcus Ware came from Troy (student enrollement of under 3,000), so it's hardly the only factor to be considered.

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My2Cents

So, what you're saying is that there's no redeeming myself? Being wrong last season is just too unforgivable? And, furthermore, everybody else's two misses were way better than mine? Well, that's fair.