PatsandTrojans55

1. Interest in Dorsey and Ellis is very real. Also, have interest in Trevor Laws as maybe a late 2nd early 3rd round pick. They like his motor and the way he gains leverage with his size.

2. They still feel the same about Chris Long. He's a great kid with good but not overwhelmingly great talent. They like Gholston ALOT more as a prospect for OLB. In fact Long could fall to 8 or 9 depending on 3 teams. Not named New England, Miami and St. Louis.

3. They won't trade up in this draft and if Gholston falls they will consider, if Chris Long falls they still want to trade down. Only 1 player worth a trade up and he will be (Long) gone.

4. They are doing extra recon on O-Lineman and that is a VERY strong possibility in the 1st round. Because the depth and therefore value isn't as great as LB or CB.

5. They were very impressed with Keith Rivers visit, specifically his time spent in the film room and the terms "instincts and field savvy" came up.

6. On corners, There are 2 corners OFF the draft board right now. 1. They feel doesn't love the game enough to focus and dedicate himself to football although he's a talent. 2. Is from a small college and they don't like his football sense. The corner position is a good class and they might wait for early 3rd to address the position. (So don't say you weren't warned). They like their depth and flexibility at the moment. They also have another option there after the draft.

7. They will draft a RB in this draft that will replace Sammy Morris eventually. They feel Maroney is ready for more receiving opportunities and will improve in blitz pick-ups to play more 3rd downs going forward.

8. On WR they like a number of them but they want a versatile WR and will address this as well.

9. On Seward, they are still debating on an offer and the snag is whether they like the value of Seward for a 5th or do they feel the prospect will be there in the draft. In other words they want to keep the best possible flexability available going into the draft while improving depth. I think they will give him an offer and address LB in the draft on Day 2. (Don't be surprised if they don't take a LBer until Late Day 2 anyway. As in Late 3rd or later).

10. The team feels they don't have any glaring weaknesses going into the draft and they really like some of their depth and flexiblilty right now. I'm hearing "Don't be surprised" thrown around alot.

I don't post my knowledge of the team for self gratification. I post it for true Patriots Fans who want to know some inside information on their beloved team.

Pats fans this is a wonderful time and sit back and enjoy it. But, I want to warn you to not be surprised!! They are the best in the business for a reason.

PT55

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you're a delusional neanderthal.

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A.C Vegas

your just saying that cause he said your binky is off the board

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miDeuce

Why do I get the feeling this is entirely based on this:

BelichickFan

Well who knows what 55 really knows but . . . I like it when people post this stuff, just in case.

I really don't want Ellis though. I trust Bill and Scott and understand the Planet Theory but I really want a trade down into what seems like the value/need combination fit of this draft which, for us, seems to be in the 12-20 range.

miDeuce

I concur, take it with a grain of salt but interesting to read. I get the feeling if they get stuck with the 7th overall pick they're going to take someone that everyone will say they reached on or didn't necesaarily have a huge need for (OL/DL). I just don't see Ellis being a good fit for the 3-4, he seems prototypical 4-3.

UMDshawn

Who knows if this is truly inside info...but a lot of what is being said logically makes sense. Both Dorsey and Ellis are good talents who could represent the best mix of need/BPA. We do not really need a DL this year, but neither Wilfork or Warren played much in their rookie years, and that could happen again if we drafted either one of these guys. I might be wrong, but I think Seymour, Wilfork, and Green are all Free Agents in 09'...

I also agree with the CB argument. This is a deep class, and they have a history drafting DB later in the draft. Who is to say that in our system Antoine Cason, Charles Godfrey, or Patrick Lee wouldn't be as productive as McKelvin or DRC.

In the end, I believe that New Orleans will be interested in jumping in front of Cincinnati, and we will end up picking at 10. In that case, Keith Rivers could very easilly be the pick.

PonyExpress

Wow, interesting if true. Keep it up 55. Even if you're telling tales, they're the tales I want to hear!

My guess is the cbs off the baord would be Talib and Jenkins, if the story is true.

DaBruinz

The Pats don't draft based on Best Player available. The draft based on best VALUE available.

Neither Dorsey NOR Ellis have the size required to be a DE in the Pats system and they are both too small for the NT position.

Also, Wilfork, Seymour and Green are signed THROUGH the 2009 season. Meaning the Pats have 2 more years with all 3 of them. Going into 2010, they have some 76 million in cap space currently. Yes, that will go down some based on 2008 and 2009, but my bet is that they still have over 40 million when 2010 comes around. And that is all if they owners and players have reached an agreement on a new CBA and the owners haven't taken their option to make 2010 an uncapped year.

The CB spiel by PT55 is just regurgitated from what many people have said on this board. Myself included.

Warren94

Oh Brother...

Dorsey is a stud. Is He a boom or bust player maybe. Ellis can play either DT or DE in our system.

Goff would be a solid addition in the third round