Gosselin's first mock - New England Patriots Forums

PonyExpress · 04-11-2008, 01:37 PM

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont....532bcdf5.html

Chris Long drops to 6, Gholston to the Pats.

Ochmed Jones · 04-11-2008, 01:52 PM

Very interesting, he has Dorsey going at #2 thus freeing Atlanta to take Ryan.

I could live with Gholston, although I do not think he is the best pass rusher in the draft.

patsfaninpa · 04-11-2008, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Ochmed Jones

Very interesting, he has Dorsey going at #2 thus freeing Atlanta to take Ryan.

I could live with Gholston, although I do not think he is the best pass rusher in the draft.

Given Groves off-field stuff. And, injuries. Foot problems always seem to come back. I think he's a safer pick. We still have to get after the qb to win the Super Bowl. Peyton,Big Ben and P.Rivers in the AFC.
Plus, when we get to the big game Eli or Romo. Trade up in Round 2 for a cb we like. 62 AND 69 should get us to mid 40's. Maybe, A.Cason will drop. Or, someone like C.Godfrey or P.Lee. Grab an ILB at 94. Maybe, Goff is there.

1. V.Gholson olb
2. P. Lee cb
3. J. Goff ilb
4. C. Stevens -te
5. DB like a Molden,Trae Williams, Stanruck - Boise, or Wheatley from Colorado.

Haven't addressed OL. But, we did socre 589 bleepin points last year. They just have to play one more game like they played the first 18.

PonyExpress · 04-11-2008, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by patsfaninpa

Given Groves off-field stuff. And, injuries. Foot problems always seem to come back. I think he's a safer pick. We still have to get after the qb to win the Super Bowl. Peyton,Big Ben and P.Rivers in the AFC.
Plus, when we get to the big game Eli or Romo. Trade up in Round 2 for a cb we like. 62 AND 69 should get us to mid 40's. Maybe, A.Cason will drop. Or, someone like C.Godfrey or P.Lee. Grab an ILB at 94. Maybe, Goff is there.

1. V.Gholson olb
2. P. Lee cb
3. J. Goff ilb
4. C. Stevens -te
5. DB like a Molden,Trae Williams, Stanruck - Boise, or Wheatley from Colorado.

Haven't addressed OL. But, we did socre 589 bleepin points last year. They just have to play one more game like they played the first 18.

I was wavering for a while, but I think Lee's a S not a CB. Wheatley is one of my favorites. He looks like a solid #2 cb.

***HEY BRO! WHAT UP?*** · 04-11-2008, 02:58 PM

-Keith Rivers to KC at #5? I don't think so! Patrick Willis was light years ahead of Rivers in terms of talent last year and he went to SF at #11.

-I don't think Matt Ryan will go #3 to Atlanta. Ryan is overrated just like most QB's hyped up before the draft.

-Chris Johnson is a surprise pick to the Bucs at #20. This is one player I wouldn't be surprised to see a team take him in the first round. He has a lot of talent and could make a Devin Hester type impact on special teams from day 1.

-Why is everyone so hung up on Felix Jones to Dallas? Just because Jerry Jones likes McFadden doesn't mean he likes Felix Jones. I like the Gosslin's comment "A speed complement to Marion Barber"; they are the same speed in terms of 40 times. Therefore, he is not a "change of pace back. Jones will be lucky if he is a first round pick.

***KontradictioN*** · 04-11-2008, 03:26 PM

I'm hoping we would land Chris Johnson in the second round.

***DaBruinz*** · 04-11-2008, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by THEARCHIVES

-Keith Rivers to KC at #5? I don't think so! Patrick Willis was light years ahead of Rivers in terms of talent last year and he went to SF at #11.

-I don't think Matt Ryan will go #3 to Atlanta. Ryan is overrated just like most QB's hyped up before the draft.

-Chris Johnson is a surprise pick to the Bucs at #20. This is one player I wouldn't be surprised to see a team take him in the first round. He has a lot of talent and could make a Devin Hester type impact on special teams from day 1.

-Why is everyone so hung up on Felix Jones to Dallas? Just because Jerry Jones likes McFadden doesn't mean he likes Felix Jones. I like the Gosslin's comment "A speed complement to Marion Barber"; they are the same speed in terms of 40 times. Therefore, he is not a "change of pace back. Jones will be lucky if he is a first round pick.

You do realize that Jones would be a "Change of Pace" to Barber and it has absolutely NOTHING to do with their timed 40 speed, right? Oh wait. No, you don't realize that.

Barber = 5'11 and 221 lbs. Bruising down-hill runner. Ran a 4.53 at the combine.
Jones = 5'10 and 207 lbs. Scat-back ala Tiki Barber. Has been compared to a water-bug on the field. Ran a 4.44 at the combine.

Do you understand, NOW, how Jones would be a change of pace to Barber?

Also, you do realize that Gosselin has gotten more picks correct in the last 3 years than any other person out there? Yes, this is only his first mock, but he's damn good at his mocks.

sebman2112 · 04-11-2008, 04:16 PM

This is only the first mock, and He even says that team needs will be weighted more heavily in the second mock (of three). I like some of what he's done here, but I can't see Keith Rivers going quite that high. It's interesting that this mock is heavily based on BPA, and he has Rivers going in the top 5. Maybe Rivers is a little better than some of you guys realize? I think he's going to be an outstanding LB at the next level.

Also, I wonder if the Patriots would jump the Jets for Chris Long?

Getting to the Cowboys picks. I personally think they might just select Kenny Phillips and Chris Johnson in the first round, then come back with either a CB or a WR in the second round.

***pats1*** · 04-11-2008, 04:22 PM

Well, Gosselin, according to Reiss, is pretty connected and his mocks are very accurate, especially his final one on draft weekend. Last year, he did get Meriweather to the Pats right.

However, Gosselin also talked about how teams were taking Meriweather off the board, and blasted the Pats on a few other issues too -- maybe in May or June or so. I sent an e-mail to him explaining the truth, and he responded with a nasty e-mail of his own.

PonyExpress · 04-11-2008, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by sebman2112

This is only the first mock, and He even says that team needs will be weighted more heavily in the second mock (of three). I like some of what he's done here, but I can't see Keith Rivers going quite that high. It's interesting that this mock is heavily based on BPA, and he has Rivers going in the top 5. Maybe Rivers is a little better than some of you guys realize? I think he's going to be an outstanding LB at the next level.

Also, I wonder if the Patriots would jump the Jets for Chris Long?

Getting to the Cowboys picks. I personally think they might just select Kenny Phillips and Chris Johnson in the first round, then come back with either a CB or a WR in the second round.

I have to think the reason Gosselin made so strange a projection as Rivers to KC is because a little birdie told him something.