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Old 03-25-2008, 05:32 PM   #1
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Default Is a "conversion player" too big a risk at #7???

I been going through a couple of draft guides and the new buzz word this year is "conversion players".

Now,some of the the best players and most often mentioned players for the Patriots are what is termed as "conversion players".

These "conversion players" are players like Ghoslton, Harvey, Long, Merling, and Groves are players that will be drafted to play a different position than they played in college. Drafting a player is always a risk but to draft a "conversion player" may be too big a risk.

Should the Patriots draft a safer pick like Rivers, McKelvin, or Clady who they know can play the position?

Has there ever been a "conversion player" drafted in the top 10 that has really excelled at a new position right away?

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Old 03-25-2008, 05:40 PM   #2
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Default Re: Is a "conversion player" too big a risk at #7

If Ghoslton is there @ #7 I may just cry tears of joy. Conversion... Smersion.
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Old 03-25-2008, 07:36 PM   #3
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I agree

if Gholston is available there at #7 I will cry tears of joy
the only mock draft that says he'll land to us is Todd MCshay's. Everyone else has him going as early as #1

I think Mcshay's mock was before Gholston's pro day. 42 inch vert!? Unheard of
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Default Re: Is a "conversion player" too big a risk at #7???

I was thinking about this today as well. I may be the only person who would not throw their TV out the window if the Pats skip on Gholston. The guy has not played with his hand up at all and he is expected to play OLB? There's no doubt he can rush the passer, and he certainly is athletic enough to play OLB, but there is risk there and the Pats may want to take the safer pick. I can say I would not blame them.
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I was thinking about this today as well. I may be the only person who would not throw their TV out the window if the Pats skip on Gholston. The guy has not played with his hand up at all and he is expected to play OLB? There's no doubt he can rush the passer, and he certainly is athletic enough to play OLB, but there is risk there and the Pats may want to take the safer pick. I can say I would not blame them.
Here's a thought: How many times have you seen the absolute MUST HAVE guy turn out to be a bust? I get upset sometimes when the Pats don't make certain moves but I think you need to trust BB and Pioli to get it done. So as to the "throw their tv out the window" comment, I'm with you. Guys allllways move up after their pro days. Workout warriors do not equal NFL heroes.
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Default Re: Is a "conversion player" too big a risk at #7???

I understand the risk of projecting a guy to a new position, but Pats OLB is a position where virtually every player is a conversion...and it's a huge impact position with rare-body-type players. If you want a Ware or Merriman, you have to roll the dice. If somehow Gholston's there, I wouldn't hesitate.
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I've said several times that a major position change adds too much risk but Merriman, Ware, Wimbley went 11th, 12th, 13th and all had major impacts as rookies. Sure, 7th is a little higher but it's in the same ballpark and you can't argue with the results.
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And what really hurts is that we dont have another pick til 62 so this pick will be mangnified in importance.....and I can see us reaching if we cant trade down. Dont be surprised to see a guy rated 20-25 taken if Long/Gholston arent there. We will likely be taking a risk no matter who we pick at 7.....
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I've said several times that a major position change adds too much risk but Merriman, Ware, Wimbley went 11th, 12th, 13th and all had major impacts as rookies. Sure, 7th is a little higher but it's in the same ballpark and you can't argue with the results.
And I think Gholston's a safer projection to OLB than all of those guys. His explosion and football smarts are just off the charts. I have Oakland grabbing him at 4, though.
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With his recent pro day success, there is a 0% chance Gholston falls to us at #7. I wouldn't be shocked to see the Patriots move up to say #5 and try to grab him or Chris Long. The draft could easily see Chris Long go #1, and Gholston #2 to the Rams, that's not out of the question. The #7 pick, is looking more and more like one of the toughest picks in the draft. There going to have to choose from Ellis, Rivers, McKelvin, and Clady. What if the Patriots are concerned about Seymour health and recent play and maybe grab a Sedrick Ellis. That is not an impossible thought.
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