Predict the bust - New England Patriots Forums

ay-yo · 07-31-2011, 03:04 PM

Statistically speaking we should expect at least one of Vereen, Ridley or Dowling to bust. I'm not particularly down on any of these players but recognize that I'd be betting against the odds to expect all three to be quality players. I'm interested in seeing if anybody has actual reasons for expecting a guy to be bad. So who do you expect to bust?

I'll pick Dowling. I don't like drafting guys with injury histories. Sometimes it can land you an elite talent later in the draft when said player should have gone earlier (see Gronkowski, Rob) but often times it doesn't work out. Dowling's injury history isn't terrible but I really have no reason to predict any of these guys busts so I went w/ Ras. Hopefully he proves me wrong.

Side note: Let's stick to the 3 guys I mentioned. All 3 should see some PT this year. I leave out Solder because there has already been a lot of discussion on him since the draft. What makes Mallet a bust is a whole different topic so we'll leave him out. The rest of the guys were picked so low I'm not expecting much although Cannon and Smith show promise.

rookBoston · 07-31-2011, 03:21 PM

I don't think any of those three will bust. They may not become all-pros, but they wont flame out either.

I actually think Dowling could be a big addition to the secondary. But what is that based on? College reports, a little film and the fact that BB thought highly enough of him to take him instead of any one of the million trade offers he had for the #33 pick. This time last year, everyone was pretty unsure whether BB lost his mind trading down for McCourty, who almost no one had in the first round.

Of the draft class, I think the bust is pretty likely to be Mallett, but for where we got him it's worth a shot.

Patriot Missile · 07-31-2011, 05:31 PM

I predict no busts this season. I have high hopes for those 3. Especially for Ridley.

gohogs14 · 07-31-2011, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by rookBoston

I don't think any of those three will bust. They may not become all-pros, but they wont flame out either.

I actually think Dowling could be a big addition to the secondary. But what is that based on? College reports, a little film and the fact that BB thought highly enough of him to take him instead of any one of the million trade offers he had for the #33 pick. This time last year, everyone was pretty unsure whether BB lost his mind trading down for McCourty, who almost no one had in the first round.

Of the draft class, I think the bust is pretty likely to be Mallett, but for where we got him it's worth a shot.

Why do you think mallett will bust?

I dont think any of them will fwiw...they are surrounded by good coaching and talent

captain stone · 08-01-2011, 10:35 PM

I predict Ridley, esp. when his draft position, relative to his talent, is taken under consideration.

Bill ignored Sam Acho, among others, to take someone who should've been drafted 2 full rounds later.

Meanwhile, we're still stuck with 3rd-string crap at OLB, and Wendell/OBurger as our backup C/Gs.

Dobbo · 08-02-2011, 04:42 AM

I like the look of all three of them. Would not be suprised if Ras-I ends up at Safety and i think we should hold fire on Mallett for 2/3 seasons.

Hopefully he should be top notch trade bait...

***NEGoldenAge*** · 08-02-2011, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by captain stone

I predict Ridley, esp. when his draft position, relative to his talent, is taken under consideration.

How do you like your crow? I want to be prepared come season's end.

Criptonite · 08-02-2011, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by captain stone

I predict Ridley, esp. when his draft position, relative to his talent, is taken under consideration.

I agree. Of the three, I'd say Ridley is most likely to bust. I really liked Dowling and Vereen coming into the draft. Ridley looked extremely average. I had him rated as a 6th rounder. He didn't have a big body of work though. So I assume from his high draft position that BB saw something special about him that didn't come across through his limited number of carries. I watched Ridley in camp on Sunday and he again looked average, except in receiving where he was poor.

***IcyPatriot*** · 08-02-2011, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by rookBoston

I don't think any of those three will bust. They may not become all-pros, but they wont flame out either.

I actually think Dowling could be a big addition to the secondary. But what is that based on? College reports, a little film and the fact that BB thought highly enough of him to take him instead of any one of the million trade offers he had for the #33 pick. This time last year, everyone was pretty unsure whether BB lost his mind trading down for McCourty, who almost no one had in the first round.

Of the draft class, I think the bust is pretty likely to be Mallett, but for where we got him it's worth a shot.

I agree with rook - also on Mallett.

Frick · 08-02-2011, 04:47 PM

A bust can be more than just on field production IMHO. Solder at pick #17!!!. Could be thanking his lucky stars to be drafted by the Pats and want to get on the field as soon as posible, but no Mister High Ceiling is holding out for a contract that is more than he is worth.

Take his salary and Light's, compared to what other OT'S drafed in the top twenty are getting. Not only that but Gnat won't be ready to start for a year or two.By then, guys that owned him in college , like A. Smith and that HOFER B. Reed better watch out.

I predict a mediocre year or two then it's contract time and we all know Bill stays with his 1st rounders worthy or not. With recievers that extends to the 2nd round. And further that Vollmer will end up on the left side sooner than later. Didn't like the pick ,don't like the player.