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***mgteich*** · 02-19-2011, 02:23 PM

I agree. But then, I would be gald to see any of the blue chippers, or almost blue chippers fall to us. Not including QB's we have

DL Bowers, Darius, Fairley, Jordan
LB Miller, Quinn
DB Amukamara, Peterson
WR Green, Jones
RB Ingram

That give us 13 players if one includes QB's Gabbert and Newton who likely also be in the top 13.

Even if there are THREE additional players in the top 16, none of these will drop to us. Of course, it certainly could happen. With a surprise or two, one of these could be available with a trade up, but there would lots of teams interested, including the team with the pick.

It seems more likely that all of these will be gone and we are looking at the top OT's or the remaining front seven players. If there is enought to choose from, Belichick will, of course, trade down some.

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Originally Posted by convertedpatsfan

If you think Amukamara is a blue chipper, and he falls to 17, makes sense to do it, even if the need isn't as significant. Of course if you don't see him in that class of talent, it doesn't make sense.

I'd love to see Cam Jordan fall to us but I don't think that's happening.

***convertedpatsfan*** · 02-19-2011, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by mgteich

I agree. But then, I would be gald to see any of the blue chippers, or almost blue chippers fall to us. Not including QB's we have

DL Bowers, Darius, Fairley, Jordan
LB Miller, Quinn
DB Amukamara, Peterson
WR Green, Jones
RB Ingram

That give us 13 players if one includes QB's Gabbert and Newton who likely also be in the top 13.

Even if there are THREE additional players in the top 16, none of these will drop to us. Of course, it certainly could happen. With a surprise or two, one of these could be available with a trade up, but there would lots of teams interested, including the team with the pick.

It seems more likely that all of these will be gone and we are looking at the top OT's or the remaining front seven players. If there is enought to choose from, Belichick will, of course, trade down some.

I agree, the trade-down will probably be the most likely scenario. Though if we were willing to add say #74, we could jump up to 11 to 13 range to grab one of the last blue chippers. I'm certainly rooting for some teams to gamble on Mallett and Locker, but that's looking less and less likely.

jays52 · 02-19-2011, 07:50 PM

Assuming Fairley is off the board, Watt is my #1 guy for the four technique. That lateral agility and burst is rare in the prototype frame, and there is no question he'll build up enough to be able to play the run at a high level. He's got rare agility for a guy his size which is really appealing for me against the current spread trend. A guy who not only can play all the colloquial requirements of the right end in addition to be a legimate pursuit guy? That's very valuable and rare. He's also a true three down player. None of the other mid-range prospects fit that. Gimme Watt, and I wouldn't be shocked to see a move into the early teens for him.

***Box_O_Rocks*** · 02-20-2011, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by jays52

Assuming Fairley is off the board, Watt is my #1 guy for the four technique. That lateral agility and burst is rare in the prototype frame, and there is no question he'll build up enough to be able to play the run at a high level. He's got rare agility for a guy his size which is really appealing for me against the current spread trend. A guy who not only can play all the colloquial requirements of the right end in addition to be a legimate pursuit guy? That's very valuable and rare. He's also a true three down player. None of the other mid-range prospects fit that. Gimme Watt, and I wouldn't be shocked to see a move into the early teens for him.

Watt seems like a good prospect to grow into the role ... have you looked into Muhammed Wilkerson yet?

jsull87 · 02-20-2011, 05:38 PM

has to be JJ Watt... only one on the list starting with W

***convertedpatsfan*** · 02-20-2011, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jsull87

has to be JJ Watt... only one on the list starting with W

Point.

But only after we trade down twice and half the board is on suicide watch waiting for the pick.

Don Kipines · 02-20-2011, 08:47 PM

People are forgetting that there will be at least 2-3 workout warriors who will shoot up the board after the combine. Wouldn't be surprised if guys like Justin Houston, Jimmy Smith, and Aldon Smith vault themselves into top 15-lock status. And call me crazy, but doesn't Derrick Locke automatically get into the first round if he runs under 4.3, which some folks insist he will?

Off The Grid · 02-20-2011, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by convertedpatsfan

But only after we trade down twice and half the board is on suicide watch waiting for the pick.

God, I can't WAIT for that!!

I know it makes me an horrible person and all, but I was cackling with GLEE, this past April, reading the Wailings, Lamentations, and Gnashing of TEETH as Coach Bill The Mad kept leap frogging back AWAY from Dez Bryant!!

Off The Grid · 02-20-2011, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by upstater1

Yes, at #17, taking a big strong guy, with speed, who is fundamentally sound at that position, yes that appeals to me.

I want Mike Haynes-Ray Clayborn Part 2 at Foxboro.

I'd MUCH rather prioritize the D Line.

THEN: Flankers.

And THEN: CornerBacks.

ROI, baby.

But I like the way you think.

Just 'cause I'm constantly shouting down efforts to Petersonize or Amakumarafy our Draft ~ in favor of more pressing and Impacting needs Up Front ~ doesn't mean I don't DREAM of an elite Secondary, BELIEVE me.

Off The Grid · 02-20-2011, 09:21 PM

Cam Jordan is obviously the Hot Flavor of the Week.

Great looking FootBall player, but the only possible match I see, hereabouts, is as an HeffaLump...and that is a LONG shot.

If I'm looking for a traditional 5 Tech, I'm looking at Cam Heyward...and JJ Watt.

So I'm gonna take the other side of that Trade: SELL.

And I'll take Aldon Smith.

I'm still hoping that Watt sinks towards 28, though he's no longer my first choice, there, as a Priority Binkie has moved up:

Phil Taylor, I see rocketing up to the middle of the round, over the next few days...and then rolling back down, as the microscope finally finds him, and his rather sordid past comes into Sharp Relief.