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PonyExpress · 04-21-2007, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by hobbsownscoles

Since when was cedric griffin ever a fs prospect?

He ran a 4.5+ at the combine in the 40 and was considered by many to lack the straightline speed "required" for a cb in the NFL.

PonyExpress · 04-21-2007, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Remix 6

how so?

Meriweather played very well for 2nd half of Miami's season as a CB

I originally thought the only risk associated with Merriweather was "character related". Now, i don't see his character as the issue. I now believe the risk is that Merriweather is a tweener: not ideally explosive for an NFL safety, not ideally quick for an NFL cb. I am not saying he cannot succeed, only that there is more risk associated with him than I previously thought. In college I believe he was explosive enough for S and quick enough for cb, which made him appear dominant. But I'm not sure he will have that kind of athletic advantage in the NFL. He may prove me wrong, and that's fine. But are we swinging for the fences and risking a strike out, or choking up on the bat and trying to put the ball in play? I prefer the latter approach in rd 1.

BTW, I have R. Nelson and Weddle in the same "tweener" category as Merriweather.

hobbsownscoles · 04-21-2007, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by PonyExpress

He ran a 4.5+ at the combine in the 40 and was considered by many to lack the straightline speed "required" for a cb in the NFL.

He was still considered a CB

PonyExpress · 04-21-2007, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by hobbsownscoles

He was still considered a CB

He was considered a FS by many scouts.

chowder · 04-21-2007, 01:36 PM

I would keep him at safety but I think that BB would love his versatility and his ability to cover like a corner if needed.

Remix 6 · 04-21-2007, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by PonyExpress

I originally thought the only risk associated with Merriweather was "character related". Now, i don't see his character as the issue. I now believe the risk is that Merriweather is a tweener: not ideally explosive for an NFL safety, not ideally quick for an NFL cb. I am not saying he cannot succeed, only that there is more risk associated with him than I previously thought. In college I believe he was explosive enough for S and quick enough for cb, which made him appear dominant. But I'm not sure he will have that kind of athletic advantage in the NFL. He may prove me wrong, and that's fine. But are we swinging for the fences and risking a strike out, or choking up on the bat and trying to put the ball in play? I prefer the latter approach in rd 1.

BTW, I have R. Nelson and Weddle in the same "tweener" category as Merriweather.

theres always "tweeners" because college players dont have a porgram like nfl for lifting and diet. u gain strength and muscle in NFL. Hes not going to come into NFL and play at his college size because so many players need to bulk up, add weight.

sebman2112 · 04-21-2007, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by PonyExpress

I originally thought the only risk associated with Merriweather was "character related". Now, i don't see his character as the issue. I now believe the risk is that Merriweather is a tweener: not ideally explosive for an NFL safety, not ideally quick for an NFL cb. I am not saying he cannot succeed, only that there is more risk associated with him than I previously thought. In college I believe he was explosive enough for S and quick enough for cb, which made him appear dominant. But I'm not sure he will have that kind of athletic advantage in the NFL. He may prove me wrong, and that's fine. But are we swinging for the fences and risking a strike out, or choking up on the bat and trying to put the ball in play? I prefer the latter approach in rd 1.

BTW, I have R. Nelson and Weddle in the same "tweener" category as Merriweather.

This is not a criticism, but when I read these opinions of Meriweather it made me think you haven't seen him play very much.

PonyExpress · 04-21-2007, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by sebman2112

This is not a criticism, but when I read these opinions of Meriweather it made me think you haven't seen him play very much.

You're wrong.

Remix 6 · 04-21-2007, 03:38 PM

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He’s a little different than Huff. Huff was more of a corner-type, I think Huff could be a better corner than he is a safety, it’s his natural position. I would say Michael Griffin’s the more natural safety that would adjust to playing corner, Griffin’s more physical.

-Duane Akina, Texas D Cord.

BostonHerald.com

PonyExpress · 04-21-2007, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Remix 6

-Duane Akina, Texas D Cord.

BostonHerald.com

As usual you make alot of sense. But despite the fact Huff's more "natural" position is CB, he was good enough at safety to be drafted #7 overall to play it and start as a rookie. And despite the fact Griffin's more natural position may be safety, I still think he's good enough at CB to play it and play it well in the NFL. It may take him a little more time to make that transition, but in the long run it would help him survive the more physical pro game and increase his value to his team by keeping him healthy and hiding the one hole in his game.