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Here's is my first attempt since the comps where announced, and probably my first in two weeks, or so.
Round 1, Pick# 24 - Jon Beason (WILB, Miami) Tedy Bruschi's future replacement: Thought about Timmons, Revis, or Staley, but I expect Revis to be gone, Timmons doesn't fit at WILB, and Staley is a little bit of a reach at 24.
Round 1, Pick# 28 - Michael Griffin (SS/FS, Texas) The Eagles go another direction and he falls to NE at 28: I considered taking Joe Staley instead of Griffin. I also thought about Chris Houston, but he's weak against the run, and might even go a little higher. I like Meriweather but he doesn't seem safe enough in the first round.
Round 3, Pick# 27 - Josh Wilson (CB, Maryland) He's their man. NE will trade up if they have to: I am aware that Josh Wilson could go higher, but probably not higher than early third, if it seems he'll go higher NE could trade up for him. Really I think he fits NE's defense better than any other CB's in the late 2nd-4th rounds. Wade was also an option, but he isn't polished, and DeAndre Jackson would have been a reach coming off his ACL.
Round 4, Pick# 28 - Brandon Jackson (RB, Nebraska): Brandon could go higher, but most sites have him rated as a 3rd-5th round talent, so his being available late fourth sounds reasonable to me. Other RB's I think they'll be interested in are: Lorenzo Booker, Dwayne Wright, Chris Henry, and Michael Bush.
Round 5, Comp - Anthony Waters (SILB, Clemson) He falls after the ACL injury: Taking this risk on Anthony Waters in the 5th makes sense considering his talent/ability before the injury, I don't think he goes any earlier considering that injury. If he recovers fully he'll be a very good LB.
Round 6, Pick# 6 - Dan Santucci (OG, Notre Dame): Santucci sounds like a Patriot from his descriptions, and I've seen him listed as a late rounder/FA on at least three websites. One site has him listed as an early day 2 guy, so he might not be available.
Round 6, Pick# 28 - Chris Davis (WR, Florida State) Fits NE's offense perfectly. Most sites have him as a 6th-7th- FA.
Round 6, Comp - Chris Denman (OT, Fresno State) NE could take him higher: Davis, and Denman both make sense, and after you read their scouting reports you'll notice they just sound like Patriots. NE has already taken an interest in Davis, as well.
Round 6, Comp - Antonio Johnson (DT, Mississippi St.) Big mean DT who should be a good backup for Wilfork.
Round 7, Comp - Isaiah Stanback (QB, Washington): They could draft Isaiah Stanback, or go an entirely different direction with this pick.
Tell me what you think? I have reasons for all these guys, and I think most if not all either fit need positions, fit well in NE's system, or have the potential to be the BPA when taken.
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Great job, hats off to you. Personally, I am somewhat worried about Beason's small stature. If you can convince me otherwise, I'll give you 110% vote of confidence on this mock.
Here are some questions I was asked on ESPN about this mock, and my answers:
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I would:
- flip the focus of 1/28 and 3/27......go CB in round 1 and S in round 3.
Here's the problem with that, Revis is likely gone before 24, and Houston might as well. Houston's probably gone before 28. Also, Houston supposedly needs work on his run support. Plus I don't like Aaron Ross. McCauley is skilled but he's got question marks, and seems like a second rounder to me.
In the third round it gets hard to find a Safety of my liking. Gattis could be there, as could Wendling, but a lot of mocks I'm looking at have both going before the 91st pick. Tanard Jackson will be gone before then, and he was suspended. I don't really like Sabby, so he's not one of my options. Also, I think Josh Wilson is really good, and could end up being better than some of the first round CB's. I kept trying to give NE Gattis or Wendling in the third, but it nessed upmy first round, and for awhile it looked funny. at frst I had Jon Beason, Joe Staley, and Josh Gattis as their first three picks. Notice something funny about that?
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I would shoot for LB quincy black in round 4
Quincy Black is nice, but I'd rather take a chance on Waters in the fifth, than spend a fourth on another LB after taking Beason at 24.
I wouldn't take Hairston in the 5th, considering all the talent at RB. Brandon Jackson could go anywhere from the third to the fifth, but he's really talented. Runs good outside, inside, breaks a lot of tackles, and has good receiving skills. Plus, he doesn't have that much wear on the tires.
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not sure if drafting 2 OL's are just wasted picks
The two O-Linemen won't be wasted picks. Read the scouting reports on both and you'll notice how much they sound like recent Patriot draft picks on the o-Line. I think both could replace other guys already on the roster. also, I would rather take those two late, than one O-Linemen early. Maybe NE could take another Safety, or CB instead, but I was having a hard time finding good sixth round Safeties, and CB's. Daren Stone could last into the sixth, but some have him going in the 4th-5th rounds. I was looking at John Tally a lot, and some others. DeAndre Jackson probably goes in the fifth, even with his ACL.
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joe cohen would be a good alternative at DT.
I almost went after Joe Cohen, but I think he's expected to go a little higher than Antonio Johnson, if you read Johnson's scouting report he sounds like a Patriot NT big time, and he's got really good size, which is what I specifically looked for.
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I would consider WR jordan kent in day 2 ..... david ball also
David Ball was of consideration, but he's more of a slow possession receiver. I like him a lot, but I could see BE drafting Chris Davis first. really Davis kind of reminds me of Deion Branch. Davis is a very good route runner, has good hands, is good at returning kicks, and as an added plus he had some of the best short shuttle, and three cone times at the combine. The short shuttle, and three cone are more important than 40 times in NE's offense. I almost expect them to pick this guy.
no problem with the draft but a question . u say u considered Timmons but hes too small for WILB? We dont need a "weak side inside linebacker"..Vrabel played there last year and Bruschi struggled at strongside. we need a SILB because Vrabel/Bruschi are better off at weakside unless of course Thomas plays SILB
no problem with the draft but a question . u say u considered Timmons but hes too small for WILB? We dont need a "weak side inside linebacker"..Vrabel played there last year and Bruschi struggled at strongside. we need a SILB because Vrabel/Bruschi are better off at weakside unless of course Thomas plays SILB
I didn't say he was to small, I said he doesn't fit. Vrabel's better on the outside, and I would rather see him rotate with Colvin, and Thomas on the outside, while also rotating on the inside. I don't really want him starting at WILB, full time. Also, Bruschi was a WILB and only played SILB because of injuries, and the lack of depth. I have them getting a SILB with in Waters. Also I think Thomas will play all over the place. This is going to be a very versatile LB corp, with multiple players being able to play multiple positions.
Thomas
Colvin
Bruschi
Vrabel
Beason
Waters
Mays
Woods
Izzo
Maybe they add Hartwell to this. For Ten Backers, NE has carried ten before.
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I didn't say he was to small, I said he doesn't fit. Vrabel's better on the outside, and I would rather see him rotate with Colvin, and Thomas on the outside, while also rotating on the inside. I don't really want him starting at WILB, full time. Also, Bruschi was a WILB and only played SILB because of injuries, and the lack of depth. I have them getting a SILB with in Waters. Also I think Thomas will play all over the place. This is going to be a very versatile LB corp, with multiple players being able to play multiple positions.
Thomas
Colvin
Bruschi
Vrabel
Beason
Waters
Mays
Woods
Izzo
Maybe they add Hartwell to this. For Ten Backers, NE has carried ten before.
well keep in mind Waters hasnt shown hes back yet..idk when his pro day is but hes coming off an ACL. idk how much you can hope for him to grasp SILB right away. i lvoe Beason..Timmons too but i just wanted to understand where your coming from saying Timmons wont fit WILB when he probably would but we need a SILB like Harris. i dont mind the mock though
Here's is my first attempt since the comps where announced, and probably my first in two weeks, or so.
Round 1, Pick# 24 - Jon Beason (WILB, Miami) Tedy Brischi's future replacement: Thought about Timmons, Revis, or Staley, but I expect Revis to be gone, Timmons doesn't fit at WILB, and Staley is a little bit of a reach at 24.
Round 1, Pick# 28 - Michael Griffin (SS/FS, Texas) The Eagles go another direction and he falls to NE at 28: I considered taking Joe Staley instead of Griffin. I also thought about Chris Houston, but he's weak against the run, and might even go a little higher. I like Meriweather but he doesn't seem safe enough in the first round.
Round 3, Pick# 27 - Josh Wilson (CB, Maryland) He's their man. NE will trade up if they have to: I am aware that Josh Wilson could go higher, but probably not higher than early third, if it seems he'll go higher NE could trade up for him. Really I think he fits NE's defense better than any other CB's in the late 2nd-4th rounds. Wade was also an option, but he isn't polished, and DeAndre Jackson would have been a reach coming off his ACL.
Round 4, Pick# 28 - Brandon Jackson (RB, Nebraska): Brandon could go higher, but most sites have him rated as a 3rd-5th round talent, so his being available late fourth sounds reasonable to me. Other RB's I think they'll be interested in are: Lorenzo Booker, Dwayne Wright, Chris Henry, and Michael Bush.
Round 5, Comp - Anthony Waters (SILB, Clemson) He falls after the ACL injury: Taking this risk on Anthony Waters in the 5th makes sense considering his talent/ability before the injury, I don't think he goes any earlier considering that injury. If he recovers fully he'll be a very good LB.
Round 6, Pick# 6 - Dan Santucci (OG, Notre Dame): Santucci sounds like a Patriot from his descriptions, and I've seen him listed as a late rounder/FA on at least three websites. One site has him listed as an early day 2 guy, so he might not be available.
Round 6, Pick# 28 - Chris Davis (WR, Florida State) Fits NE's offense perfectly. Most sites have him as a 6th-7th- FA.
Round 6, Comp - Chris Denman (OT, Fresno State) NE could take him higher: Davis, and Denman both make sense, and after you read their scouting reports you'll notice they just sound like Patriots. NE has already taken an interest in Davis, as well.
Round 6, Comp - Antonio Johnson (DT, Mississippi St.) Big mean DT who should be a good backup for Wilfork.
Round 7, Comp - Isaiah Stanback (QB, Washington): They could draft Isaiah Stanback, or go an entirely different direction with this pick.
Tell me what you think? I have reasons for all these guys, and I think most if not all either fit need positions, fit well in NE's system, or have the potential to be the BPA when taken.
Great Job Cousin. A lot of thought went into your pics;
I have a difference of opinion on a couple choices. Merriweather is a gamble. He's small. He's a Thug. We already have that size safeties in Wilson and Sanders and we are getting killed back there (see Peyton) as the TE's are getting bigger and bigger.
Josh Wilson? We already have a 5'8" 175 LB CB who plays big but gets beat. We need bigger CB's not smaller. How about Coe from Alabama St. 6' 1" and good credentials. He's rated a third rounder.
I like Henry in the 4th. He's got speed and size. Jackson is like 205 Lbs. Kevin Faulk is even heavier.
Waters worst attribute was tackling. They say he is just plain bad. Got all the measurables but not a great tackler. Rather spend a cheap buck and get Hartwell (only 26) and see whats is available in 2008 if we can't get someone decent. How about USC Dallas Sartz? They say he is a 6'5" 256 LB guy with an upside with some coaching. They say he is always around the ball.
I like Stanback. Could be a WR in a pinch and BB like versatility.
The only other I would not want is Davis at WR. There are three or four who could fall here with better stats and upside.
Don't think they go for two O linemen in 2007.
Great job though and it's fun to swap opinions. Beason and Griffin work for me in round one.
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Great Job Cousin. A lot of thought went into your pics;
I have a difference of opinion on a couple choices. Merriweather is a gamble. He's small. He's a Thug. We already have that size safeties in Wilson and Sanders and we are getting killed back there (see Peyton) as the TE's are getting bigger and bigger.
Josh Wilson? We already have a 5'8" 175 LB CB who plays big but gets beat. We need bigger CB's not smaller. How about Coe from Alabama St. 6' 1" and good credentials. He's rated a third rounder.
I like Henry in the 4th. He's got speed and size. Jackson is like 205 Lbs. Kevin Faulk is even heavier.
Waters worst attribute was tackling. They say he is just plain bad. Got all the measurables but not a great tackler. Rather spend a cheap buck and get Hartwell (only 26) and see whats is available in 2008 if we can't get someone decent. How about USC Dallas Sartz? They say he is a 6'5" 256 LB guy with an upside with some coaching. They say he is always around the ball.
I like Stanback. Could be a WR in a pinch and BB like versatility.
The only other I would not want is Davis at WR. There are three or four who could fall here with better stats and upside.
Don't think they go for two O linemen in 2007.
Great job though and it's fun to swap opinions. Beason and Griffin work for me in round one.
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Sartz is 6'5" 237 - they must have updated his scouting report since an earlier report indicated he wasn't very physical, this year's tape must have showed more promise. They still note he isn't a playmaker but is blue collar.
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I like Meriweather but he doesn't seem safe enough in the first round.
Why not?? Please… do tell. lol-
I applaud your effort. I like some of your picks (don’t agree with others). Good thorough research none the less. It seems like you put a lot of thought into it.