Off The Grid

1 Tech, 2 Tech, 3 Tech, FOUR.

This language is MILES over my head, and I won't try to bluff!!

But what I'd love to know...is what y'all think of these guys, in particular, as prospective Patriots...And what some of your own best notions are:

1 ~ Greg Romeus
2 ~ Adrian Clayborn
3 ~ Marvin Austin ~ IS this Tackle a Seymouresque 3 Tech/5 Tech candidate??

SirApropos

Here's a few 3/4 DE's that we could possibly be in the running for.
* denotes Jr that comes out early.

1. Marcell Dareus*, DE/DT Alabama (Top 5 Pick)
2. Adrian Clayborn, DE/DT Iowa (Top 15 Pick)
3. Cameron Heyward, DE/DT Ohio State (Top 15 Pick)
4. Allen Bailey, DE/DT Miami (Top 20 Pick)
5. Jared Crick*, DE/DT Nebraska (Rnd 1-2)

They would be what you would consider the 3/5 Tech guys.

I'm hoping Ron Brace is going to work out at LDE. He's looked good so far and should get playing time this year with Ty Warren out. That way we only need one DE instead of 2.

Greg Romeus (260lbs) is more of a 4-3 DE and would need to gain about 15-20lbs to be an effective 3-4 DE.

I think you mean Marvin Austin from NC. He has the size but has mainly played DT in a 4-3 so would have to learn a new position similar to how Ron Brace is now.

reamer

I find it odd how low Crick appears on most people's lists. I truly believe that he displays the best combination of height (6'6), size (#290+ with a lanky frame), strength at the point of attack, experience two-gapping, and first-step explosion of any 34 end in next year's draft. Check out the following videos for an idea of his ability; please keep in mind that his talent is his own. Just because he played next to Suh doesn't mean that he owes his success entirely to the big man. Seymour, for example, played next to Stroud. Both have had fantastic NFL careers.

The first video is a good game, but the second video is one of the most phenomenal games ever played by a DT. Just remarkable.

YouTube - Jared Crick vs. Texas

YouTube - Jared Crick vs. Baylor

BritPat

Romeus is the perfect Pats OLB - big long arms, very strong, great first step, strong against the run, gets to the QB.

I'm not sold on Clayborn myself, not in terms of suitability to us. I think he's too big to be an OLB and too small to be a DE. I think he's someone the 1 gap 3-4 teams would plug straight in at DE and allow them to pin their ears back. He reminds me a heck of a lot of Justin Smith.

Miles Austen? I think you mean Marvin Austin.......the kid's a 4-3 UT. Reminds me of Gerald McCoy in a lot of ways.

If we're looking at a 5 tech to replace big Sey, then look no further than Ironhead's kid or the Wolfe kid at Cinncy. Not to forget Jared Crick by the way, but I think he's more a 4-3 pass rushing DT like Tony Brown in Tennessee. Plus he needs to prove himself without a certain #93....

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Off The Grid

Thanks, Bro!! Must've dropped my CRACK PIPE when I was typing that!!

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Great point about Brace: I, too, am hoping like Hell that he can batten down LDE, for exactly the reason you cited: If he and Cunningham can develop into starters with substantial upside by year's end, we could enter the 2011 Draft needing just 1 Starting Caliber player at DE and OLB...

OLB Robert Quinn ~ 6'5"/270
RDE Marcell Dareus ~ 6'4"/300

Hey, I can DREAM, can't I??

Off The Grid

Good stuff, man: And you're right about Romeus, of course. VERY well said, sir.

sbpatfan

Man, how the eff are college kids getting so big. Besides drinking.

Ochmed Jones

I agree that Crick is perfect as a two gap DE in our 3-4 defense. BB has never drafted a DL tthat weighs less than 300 pounds, so Crick is in the same boat as Bailey. He has to get bigger to be a Patriots DL.

Ochmed Jones

Isn;t Quinn under investigation for some wrong doing?

Ochmed Jones

I like this kid a lot as well. He can disappear for long stretches sometimes in games, but he generally makes plays especially at crunch time.

And while he has zero coverage skills, I still think that he develop in our defense into a monster pass rusher and decent run stopper from the OLB spot.