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Old 03-15-2010, 07:59 PM   #1
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Default Why does BB not draft USC players?

There are 6 USC prospects that could go in the first 3 rounds this year - Mays, Griffen, Brown, McCoy, McNight, D. Williams. Based on BB's history, I'm wondering whether we can cross them off the list before the draft even starts.

BB has drafted 2 players out of USC since he's been here:
Oscar Lua and Matt Cassell - both in the 7th round.

But given how much of a NCAA powerhouse USC has been, it seems like he doesn't really believe in their players. Here's a list of the players he's passed up in the 1st 4 rounds (not including guys in the top 10 that he'd have had to trade way up for). Not passing judgment on any of them, just raising the facts here:

2009
15 Brian Cushing Texans LB
26 Clay Matthews Jr Packers LB
38 Rey Maualuga Bengals LB
56 Fili Moala Colts DT
87 Patrick Turner Dolphins WR
104 Kaluka Maiava Browns LB
117 Kyle Moore Buccaneers DE

2008
7 Sedrick Ellis Saints DT
9 Keith Rivers Bengals LB
21 Sam Baker Falcons T
28 Lawrence Jackson Seahawks DE
39 Chilo Rachal 49ers G
48 Fred Davis Redskins TE
63 Terrell Thomas Giants DB

2007
45 Dwayne Jarrett Panthers WR
51 Steve Smith Giants WR
59 Ryan Kalil Panthers C
39 Winston Justice Eagles T
41 Taitusi (Deuce) Lutui Cardinals G
45 LenDale White Titans RB
91 Frostee Rucker Bengals DE
93 Dominique Byrd Rams TE
101 Darnell Bing Raiders DB

2005
31 Mike Patterson Eagles DT
37 Shaun Cody Lions DT
45 Lofa Tatupu Seahawks LB

2004
20 Kenechi Udeze Vikings DE
52 Jacob Rogers Cowboys T
62 Keary Colbert Panthers WR
102 Will Poole Dolphins DB

2003
16 Troy Polamalu Steelers DB
96 Justin Fargas Raiders RB

2002
85 Kris Richard Seahawks DB

2001
122 Markus Steele Cowboys LB

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Old 03-15-2010, 08:30 PM   #2
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Default Re: Why does BB not draft USC players?

he's also only draft 1 texas player......he hasn't drafted any alabama players, either.......he hasn't drafted any players from ohio state, either.....

i wonder why he has something against so many schools....
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Ouch ouch ouch last year. The reality is they probably come off the board earlier than he wants...
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Old 03-15-2010, 09:42 PM   #4
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I'm hoping this year he decides to take one early; I'm very impressed with Griffen, particularly the way he changed his attitude and work ethic this year in response to being benched last year. Apparently he's a new man--and an athletic, pass-rushing new man, at that. I think he'd work wonders for our defense as a SOLB.
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It's a good question and I don't know the answer. USC is a factory for NFL talent. I've always wished that we would draft more guys from the likes of USC, Miami, and Florida St.
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because BB momma said they are the devil lol
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I would have to say most of those guys on that list wouldn't fit our scheme or just really aren't that good.
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I don't consider New England passing on Keith Rivers if the Patriots were intent on selecting Jerod Mayo. But I don't think a team could've gone wrong selecting either Rivers or Mayo. Evidently, New England realized that Mayo could still be available a few spots lower. So they'd traded down... Obviously, this could've easily backfired because...

I recall reading a rumor or report that the Bengals liked both players. But, they liked Sedrick Ellis too. Fortunately, for New England, they didn't choose Mayo.

Every team passed on Rey Maualuga in the first round. I read that there were concerns about him off the field and question marks about his abilities as a player. Not to mention, he scored low on his Wonderlic test.

I think Taylor Mays will be this year's Maualuga in that he goes from being a first round lock to an eventual second round selection.



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The Browns feared what the other teams, including the Bengals, feared, that Maualuga, with reported alcoholism and anger management problems, might be too much of a risk for a first-day draft pick

But Bengals head coach Marvin Lewis said that after spending a lot of time with Maualuga, and taking to Bengals players from USC who knew him, he thought it was worth the risk to take him as long as he fully understood that he would never reach his potential if he let those demons control him.
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Default Re: Why does BB not draft USC players?

I don't think BB is opposed to drafting USC players, or had any issues with Carroll. Though Cassel was a late pick, BB had spoken with Carroll about Cassel and taken his advice that Cassel was really close to winning the starting job during the QB competition.

My guess is that he feels the USC guys (and other powerhouse schools) have a brand premium attached to them. A good QB at USC will be a 1st rounder, while a similarly-talented QB at another school might get an early to mid 2nd round grade. So maybe the school inflates their value beyond what BB is willing to pay.
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Every team passed on Rey Maualuga in the first round. I read that there were concerns about him off the field and question marks about his abilities as a player. Not to mention, he scored low on his Wonderlic test.
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Yes, Marvin hit that one out of the park - Maualuaga was arrested and charged with DUI last fall. He spent some time in rehab, but should be out so he can participate in the offseason program. I believe he'll only miss one game as a first time NFL offender.

Mays' issues aren't character as much as they are judgment on the playing field, he overruns plays, takes bad angles, and goes for the big hit instead of the big play and too often makes the big miss. The question is how to channel his aggressiveness and what position to play him? If he falls out of round one it's not from being an off-field problem, it's from Pete Carroll playing him as a loose cannon.
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